Campbelltown

[Furious1]

Personally i think the layout of the ground isn't conducive to a great atmosphere. Both grandstands are relatively small and with the way the hills are the field isn't below it's surroundings, which takes away from any sort of "crowd is on top of the players" type atmosphere. I hope we persist in embracing the area and to be perfectly honest, feel the opportunity for ground redevelopment could have had a much stronger case had the COE been proposed for the same complex.

I know yesterday when we were out there most people around me were too busy shivering and trying to keep warm. Anyone that thinks it was a nice sunny Sunday arvo to go to the footy obviously wasn't there. I saw some families with young kids take off at halftime due to the cold and we were leading the game.

 

[tigerbenji]

Cats Fan you are spot on, you wouldnt of known the game was on there, yep 10,000 odd poor crowd. Look at the games they get out there not real crowd pullers, yes i know we really had to win that game but as Cats Fan said you reap what you sow.

 

[foreveratiger]

The whole western Sydney thing is a sham.
The people who live there support a multitude of teams and don’t turn up.

This is an astute observation.
Much of the population of the greater Campbelltown region have moved to the area when starting out in family life - just married, first house etc. People of this age have already determined their team allegiances and are unlikely to change them when they move. I did it myself when I first got married.
Realistically, I think it will be at least another generation before we have a majority of WT supporters in the Macarthur region - and that's based on their parents not moving back out once they're financially established.

My thoughts exactly. Only a completely new team will encoursage fan growth /interest in that area.
You are not going to follow Wests Tigers just cause you move into the area. Allegiances to other clubs are already established with the population when they move there.
Only kids who make a link with the team may change allegiance and they dont have money to spend, and the club doesnt have the finances and time to wait around for that to possibly occur - and in the meantime alienate the areas and fans they already have.
Other clubs probably have just as many fans in the area as the Wests Tigers have.
It has to be all or nothing for it to work as far as I can see which presents a risk that the club is probably not prepared to take.

Spot on.

I know with me I was a die hard Balmain fan and I lived no where near Leichardt.
What appeals to kids when they start watching the game at a young age? I know with me it was watching someone like Ellery Hanley and admiring how much influence he had on a side, also the try saving tackles of Garry Jack had me drawn to the Club.

Seriously what has our Club had going the past how many years that would attract the youngens to be die hard Wests Tigers fans?
We have 3 grounds that we keep arguing which ground is better than the other, had players playing for other Clubs which we still have had to pay for, once in a generation type of player like Tedesco feeling there's no future staying with us, consistently loosing more than we win…..i mean I can keep going.

Winning football games and having heros they can aspire to be will bring crowds in unfortunately we don't have that.

But on Campbelltown it is a bad time to play at 4pm Sunday when kids and families have school and work next day, unless you don't live in the area your not going to be travelling from the City unless your on a 5 game winning streak and in good form.....that's what I reckon anyway.

 

[UnderTheBus]

I have been a member for 10 years and attended almost every home game during this time (how i don't know). Wests Tigers are all i know..attending a game at Cambelltown is like you're in a bad dream. You want to scream and cheer your team, try and get them over the line, but it just doesn't happen…It's a shame because it's a wonderful ground, great facilities with the club next door, next to the train line with ample parking. I'll reserve judgment until we are a top 8 team again, but times ticking.

 

[Icon]

I think the person that posted a 10,000+ crowd was a bit reckless with the truth. I reckon about 7,000 and 2,000 of those were raiders supporters, I reckon about 5,000 of those were wests tigers supporters, and I wonder how many of those come from other areas of Sydney like me. "Growth is in Campbelltown'' line, is the biggest myth perpetrated on us since religion.

 

[gallagher]

Thankfully this hasnt turned into a Wests v Balmain thing. Its shows that the fans have moved on from the old clubs.

Maybe now the board will start making some calls to benefit the Wests Tigers. Were dead set morons if we're not full-time out of Parra when its built.

 

[Carefactor]

This will piss people off however to me it feels like the heartbeat of the club is in the Inner West.

Ashfield Leagues run the club. We train at Concord. We get most Support and win more at Leichhardt.

I dont know what the answer is but moving out there full tine would be the death of the club for me.

100% with you.

 

[Russell]

The area has been neglected by Wests Tigers, you reap what you sow!

THAT MY FRIEND IS UTTER RUBBISH!!!

They are out in that area heaps of times during t he year, shopping centres, schools, hospitals etc.

What do you want them to do set up tents on Campelltown oval?''

Time to give the area the flick.

 

[Newtown]

This will piss people off however to me it feels like the heartbeat of the club is in the Inner West.

Always has been in my opinion.

Originally I thought going to Campbelltown would generate the benefit coming from the large numbers of junior footballers in that area. Has that happened?

 

[WT2K]

The club has to establish itself with playing at one home ground ..this is not a joint venture anymore . The West’s group have to make this decision and as quickly as possible …give the players a home .., give the supporters a home PLEASE!

Very passionate plea and very true! I think it should be Leichhardt but I’ll settle for Parra.

I'll settle for the new stadium in Parra too.

 

[Harvey]

The area has been neglected by Wests Tigers, you reap what you sow!

THAT MY FRIEND IS UTTER RUBBISH!!!

They are out in that area heaps of times during t he year, shopping centres, schools, hospitals etc.

What do you want them to do set up tents on Campelltown oval?''

Time to give the area the flick.

My kids go to school out here. The oldest is in year 4\. In all her years at school there has been 1 visit from the tigers. Her school was visited by an u20's player and a reserve grade bench player. Compare that to at least 6 visits from name GWS players.

The club ignores the area.

 

[Harvey]

This will piss people off however to me it feels like the heartbeat of the club is in the Inner West.

Always has been in my opinion.

Originally I thought going to Campbelltown would generate the benefit coming from the large numbers of junior footballers in that area. Has that happened?

Junior numbers are so poor, there is one competition from Campbelltown to the inner west. The sides out here play against Canterbury junior clubs from about u13's onwards.

There is a large population growth out here, but many of the residents are from ethnic backgrounds that have not really adopted rugby league. Did anyone come by train yesterday? Did you notice the winter cricket competition using all the fields near Gelnfield station (where the Macquarie Fields Hawks used to play)?

 

[Bengaliwolf]

To those who are saying that a crowd of 10,000 is poor when your team is coming in to the game 2-6 and playing worse each week, the weather is freezing cold, and when the team only invests 3 games in the season at the ground, what do you expect? That game wouldn't have been packed out at Leichhardt either and at ANZ the atmosphere would be awful.

The biggest crowd for the round was 16,000 and the average was 11,000\. I don't think you can base the "ditch Campbelltown" mantra on this week's game.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

To those who are saying that a crowd of 10,000 is poor when your team is coming in to the game 2-6 and playing worse each week, the weather is freezing cold, and when the team only invests 3 games in the season at the ground, what do you expect? That game wouldn't have been packed out at Leichhardt either and at ANZ the atmosphere would be awful.

The biggest crowd for the round was 16,000 and the average was 11,000\. I don't think you can base the "ditch Campbelltown" mantra on this week's game.

True - I base my opinion on every experience I’ve had at this ground: a history of poor crowds and an atmosphere to rival ANZ. Leichhardt or bust! (Or Parra I suppose)

 

[sideline_eye]

I go to games at Campbelltown and I'll continue to do so given that it's accessible by freeway and rail, has good parking options, good facilities, poor win/loss record, the grandstand is good.

On the other hand Leichhardt has good atmosphere without being any sort of fortress (about 40% win record), has almost no parking and no public transport and poor facilities.

Yeah, Campbo for mine but I think we need a new stadium and should stop giving away home games out of our area. I went to Tamworth and the ground is hopeless unless you like sitting on damp grass.

 

[LCA]

I think the answer could be in the south-west, but it's not at Campbelltown. Perhaps a new, single home ground for the Tigers at Liverpool or somewhere in that area that is not quite as far from the inner-west as Campbo. It's a huge market in the south-west and abandoning it would be crazy. Despite all the great features of CSS, it just doesn't seem like "home". Maybe a new stand-alone venue is needed? Funding for it….? No idea. Concept though.....?

 

[T_and_M]

What I find most surprising, that from whole ground least populated were reserved members sectors on both sides. :question:

 

[NJLM78]

I think the person that posted a 10,000+ crowd was a bit reckless with the truth. I reckon about 7,000 and 2,000 of those were raiders supporters, I reckon about 5,000 of those were wests tigers supporters, and I wonder how many of those come from other areas of Sydney like me. "Growth is in Campbelltown'' line, is the biggest myth perpetrated on us since religion.

I go to all the games there and I don't know how they found 10 000 people. Campbelltown Stadium would have a capacity of 35-40000 based on the empty spaces there yesterday. 6000 at best yesterday.

 

[NJLM78]

What I find most surprising, that from whole ground least populated were reserved members sectors on both sides. :question:

Thats true. The people who were ticketed members in the stand around where I sit haven't renewed this year. And they have had those seats since the renovations there some years ago. The top of the grandstand had as many empty seat as occupied ones. Plenty of Raiders fans sitting up there too. The Eastern grandstand had two bays in the middle that were about 20% filled.

 

[gallagher]

I wonder out of 19k members how many are ticketed and how many at CSS, LO and ANZ individually.