Chammas and Ayoub

[TigerWest]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

 

[TigerWest]

I thought I heard somewhere that Chammas dislikes Maguire, like it's a personal thing. I don't know the history of it.

He isn't the first journo to trash us, but we will survive.

 

[ElleryHanley]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

 

[jirskyr]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

You know for a fact this is what Hartigan wants, what Hartigan thinks?

 

[TigerWest]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

All I know is:
Wests Tigers 2021 Football Department
Adam Hartigan — General Manager – Football
Michael Maguire — NRL Head Coach
Shane Millard — NRL Assistant Coach
Wayne Collins — NRL Assistant Coach
Andrew Gray — Head of Performance
Matthew Jay — NRL Performance Coach
Aaron Sculli — NRL Performance Coach
James Wright — NRL Football Manager and Leadership Consultant

Can he be over ridden....Yes

All I know is what is written, if you know more OK then?
“Adam has held a number of different roles in coaching, recruitment and development at an elite level and we’re really excited to have to him bringing his learnings and knowledge to this club.”

A former coaching associate of Paul Green, Hartigan joined the Sydney Roosters in 2014 as the U/20’s Holden Cup Coach before moving in to Football Operations and Recruitment positions in 2015.

**He became the club’s Recruitment Manager in 2017 — playing a crucial role in the Roosters’ Premiership-winning season the following year in 2018.**

In addition to his coaching accomplishments and experience, Hartigan also holds Bachelor’s Degrees in both Education and Health and Physical Education/Fitness from the Australian College of Physical Education, as well as a Master’s Degree in Education (Coaching) from the University of Sydney.

 

[ElleryHanley]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

You know for a fact this is what Hartigan wants, what Hartigan thinks?

If the pom, CCTW, and most journos are correct...

Name one big recruit Hartigan has landed?

I am not here to knock him, but let's be fair. Name one recruit?

Stefano we paid 400 for potential...still not sure if that will work out. Paseka looks a lot better and we could have kept him for half.

Blore I really like...but we basically offered Blore NRL wages whilst out a year and no prospect at Penrith. Not exactly a coup.

Laurie...yes. A good signing.

Dev players? None look likely at all at this stage.

Maybe I am missing something? How many of you here honestly believe he was the Roosters recruitment guru though? Politis and Robbo do all the main recruiting...everyone knows that.

 

[DJG]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

I think there are mixed emotions and responses about him.

I thought and read here that the TPJ chase ended because Hartigan pulled out because he didnt want to pay him 700K, which I also believe is too much when you could buy Curtis Sirro at 450-500K to be alot more reliable IMO (yes injury prone)

As for Madge-Ayoub stuff, give it a break.. who really cares who is signed with whom.. stop shifting the blame..

 

[ElleryHanley]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

All I know is:
Wests Tigers 2021 Football Department
Adam Hartigan — General Manager – Football
Michael Maguire — NRL Head Coach
Shane Millard — NRL Assistant Coach
Wayne Collins — NRL Assistant Coach
Andrew Gray — Head of Performance
Matthew Jay — NRL Performance Coach
Aaron Sculli — NRL Performance Coach
James Wright — NRL Football Manager and Leadership Consultant

Can he be over ridden....Yes

All I know is what is written, if you know more OK then?
“Adam has held a number of different roles in coaching, recruitment and development at an elite level and we’re really excited to have to him bringing his learnings and knowledge to this club.”

A former coaching associate of Paul Green, Hartigan joined the Sydney Roosters in 2014 as the U/20’s Holden Cup Coach before moving in to Football Operations and Recruitment positions in 2015.

**He became the club’s Recruitment Manager in 2017 — playing a crucial role in the Roosters’ Premiership-winning season the following year in 2018.**

In addition to his coaching accomplishments and experience, Hartigan also holds Bachelor’s Degrees in both Education and Health and Physical Education/Fitness from the Australian College of Physical Education, as well as a Master’s Degree in Education (Coaching) from the University of Sydney.

Do you honestly think he played a crucial role in them winning the comp?

They signed Tedesco via Mini...

All their young players and co all talk about Politis as the reason they went there...no one says Hartigan.

Again, not knocking him...just not worshiping at the alter until we actually sign someone of note.

 

[ElleryHanley]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

I think there are mixed emotions and responses about him.

I thought and read here that the TPJ chase ended because Hartigan pulled out because he didnt want to pay him 700K, which I also believe is too much when you could buy Curtis Sirro at 450-500K to be alot more reliable IMO (yes injury prone)

As for Madge-Ayoub stuff, give it a break.. who really cares who is signed with whom.. stop shifting the blame..

I was pointing out Chammas and the link...

Not shifting the blame...in fact, no blame was shifted.

 

[TigerWest]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

All I know is:
Wests Tigers 2021 Football Department
Adam Hartigan — General Manager – Football
Michael Maguire — NRL Head Coach
Shane Millard — NRL Assistant Coach
Wayne Collins — NRL Assistant Coach
Andrew Gray — Head of Performance
Matthew Jay — NRL Performance Coach
Aaron Sculli — NRL Performance Coach
James Wright — NRL Football Manager and Leadership Consultant

Can he be over ridden....Yes

All I know is what is written, if you know more OK then?
“Adam has held a number of different roles in coaching, recruitment and development at an elite level and we’re really excited to have to him bringing his learnings and knowledge to this club.”

A former coaching associate of Paul Green, Hartigan joined the Sydney Roosters in 2014 as the U/20’s Holden Cup Coach before moving in to Football Operations and Recruitment positions in 2015.

**He became the club’s Recruitment Manager in 2017 — playing a crucial role in the Roosters’ Premiership-winning season the following year in 2018.**

In addition to his coaching accomplishments and experience, Hartigan also holds Bachelor’s Degrees in both Education and Health and Physical Education/Fitness from the Australian College of Physical Education, as well as a Master’s Degree in Education (Coaching) from the University of Sydney.

Do you honestly think he played a crucial role in them winning the comp?

They signed Tedesco via Mini...

All their young players and co all talk about Politis as the reason they went there...no one says Hartigan.

Again, not knocking him...just not worshiping at the alter until we actually sign someone of note.

As I stated, I only know what I read, as I had never heard of him until he came here?

If you know more, then OK.

 

[DJG]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

I think there are mixed emotions and responses about him.

I thought and read here that the TPJ chase ended because Hartigan pulled out because he didnt want to pay him 700K, which I also believe is too much when you could buy Curtis Sirro at 450-500K to be alot more reliable IMO (yes injury prone)

As for Madge-Ayoub stuff, give it a break.. who really cares who is signed with whom.. stop shifting the blame..

I was pointing out Chammas and the link...

Not shifting the blame...in fact, no blame was shifted.

Wasnt really pointed at you sorry, more at people who think that Ayoub is the reasoning 😀

 

[ElleryHanley]

I think it is probably very obvious at this point that the club is fairly divided and one side is feeding Chammas, who has really turned on us lately ( and with good reason).

I thought this comment from Chammas tonight was very telling:

**The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.**

Who is their agent you might be asking? Well, it is none other than Sam Ayoub...

Now we have our increasingly unsuccessful coach aligned to him...and our only 2022 recruits coming from his stable.

There are obviously deep issues at the club, but Mcguire and Ayoub seems an unlikely combo to back if you are hoping we turn things around.

Our recruitment doesn't work like that, Hartigan has the reins?
How many times does that have to be stated?

Hartigan has the reins? You really believe that?

Case one: Hartigan did not want Nofaluma long term. The chairman stepped in and overruled him. Nofa 4.5 years.

Case two: Hartigan wants a ball player at 13 as he feels the pack needs balance. Hartigan targets TPJ specifically. Hartigan says we need second phase play. What happens? The club won't pay and now are after Finucane due to media pressure...a non ball playing lock.

Hartigan has landed what exactly? The two wigan blokes are through the Madge-Lam-Ayoub line.

Hartigan has landed.....? A couple of Penrith guys forced out and Stefano for 400 grand whilst unproven (the kid we let go to Manly Taniela Paseka is now killing it and playing much better for half the salary...)

That is pretty much it. Not a single soul ever said "Hartigan built the roosters" when he was there...yet somehow people here are acting like he is a recruitment guru.

I am not saying he is bad, but there is nothing to say he is as good as people on here hope / think.

All I know is:
Wests Tigers 2021 Football Department
Adam Hartigan — General Manager – Football
Michael Maguire — NRL Head Coach
Shane Millard — NRL Assistant Coach
Wayne Collins — NRL Assistant Coach
Andrew Gray — Head of Performance
Matthew Jay — NRL Performance Coach
Aaron Sculli — NRL Performance Coach
James Wright — NRL Football Manager and Leadership Consultant

Can he be over ridden....Yes

All I know is what is written, if you know more OK then?
“Adam has held a number of different roles in coaching, recruitment and development at an elite level and we’re really excited to have to him bringing his learnings and knowledge to this club.”

A former coaching associate of Paul Green, Hartigan joined the Sydney Roosters in 2014 as the U/20’s Holden Cup Coach before moving in to Football Operations and Recruitment positions in 2015.

**He became the club’s Recruitment Manager in 2017 — playing a crucial role in the Roosters’ Premiership-winning season the following year in 2018.**

In addition to his coaching accomplishments and experience, Hartigan also holds Bachelor’s Degrees in both Education and Health and Physical Education/Fitness from the Australian College of Physical Education, as well as a Master’s Degree in Education (Coaching) from the University of Sydney.

Do you honestly think he played a crucial role in them winning the comp?

They signed Tedesco via Mini...

All their young players and co all talk about Politis as the reason they went there...no one says Hartigan.

Again, not knocking him...just not worshiping at the alter until we actually sign someone of note.

As I stated, I only know what I read, as I had never heard of him until he came here?

If you know more, then OK.

That is the point...no one knew of him before he came here. Everyone knows Tedesco was recruited via Mini and Politis does their heavy lifting.

Again, not knocking him...but people are acting like Hartigan is this moneyball guru whose recruiting prowess will reshape the club. There is literally zero empirical evidence to back that up.

 

[Geo]

Stefano 400k wow

 

[DJG]

Stefano 400k wow

Don't agree?

I don't mind paying him 400K

 

[Geo]

Stefano 400k wow

Don't agree?

I don't mind paying him 400K

No just don’t think it’s that much..

 

[mikey]

So which other players does Sam manage

https://ultramanagement.com.au/players/

God that list looks like something left out for the council clean up.

Doueihi, Tamou, Mbye, Amone. We are the garbage truck

It's a bus of sorts.

 

[happy_tiger]

Stefano 400k wow

Don't agree?

I don't mind paying him 400K

half that much

 

[ElleryHanley]

Stefano is 800 over three (ref chaamas / smh)

Final year is 400, not all three.

Again, he is probably Hartigan's biggest coup so far. Whether offering 800 to a bloke on Parra's dev deal (60 grand) is a 'coup' is debatable though.

Whether he lives up to the hype is yet to be seen. Paseka has the same size, and we let him go cheaply. He looks better for Manly than Stefano does for us (so far)...

Once again, not taking shots at Hartigan...just keen to hear of all the 'great' moves he has made so far, as I can't really see anything of note.

 

[Geo]

I believe journalists inflate things to support their arguments..

 

[Telltails]

Stefano is 800 over three (ref chaamas / smh)

Final year is 400, not all three.

Again, he is probably Hartigan's biggest coup so far. Whether offering 800 to a bloke on Parra's dev deal (60 grand) is a 'coup' is debatable though.

Whether he lives up to the hype is yet to be seen. Paseka has the same size, and we let him go cheaply. He looks better for Manly than Stefano does for us (so far)...

Once again, not taking shots at Hartigan...just keen to hear of all the 'great' moves he has made so far, as I can't really see anything of note.

Paseka has a few years on Stefano - a bit early to be making that comparison