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A shadow of the player he was since that terrible hip injury. Now even a liability in defence. A hard decision needs to be made…. :
 
Early days yet, its all about combinations and they take a few weeks. You will see a much better Lawrence in the coming weeks–I hope
 
He needs to move to the wing ASAP and try to gain some confidence. Only than would I consider the move back to the centres

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He doesn't have enough speed anymore for the wing IMO. Reddy would smoke him for pace right now. Well maybe not that bad, but Chris has lost a lot.
 
He definately doesn't seem the same player. It's quite understandable though with such a shocking injury. Hopefully we will see some more of old (or is it young) Chris Lawrence soon

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Prep him for the backrow imo. It looks like he has lost his best attribute, his pace. He threw some nice passes on the weekend though so if he can keep that up he has a place. Maybe he should look to model his game off the more effective slower centres like Hodges and Matai.
 
I thought he was ok on Sunday, wasn't looking like a rep player, but looked a first grader without doubt.
 
Dear colleagues, I can’t contain myself any longer; I must post a reply in Lawrence’s defence. In my view, any talk of Lawrence’s demise as a player is greatly exaggerated, and certainly premature.

I read, for example, that the hip injury has limited him to such an extent that he is of no value to the team.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when he came back from his hip injury and, in a semi-final against St George in 2011, he was put into space a couple of times and he blew Saints away with his pace – he made Soward look like a cart horse.

Last season, and so far this year, Lawrence has had very little room to move. He always seems to get the ball in traffic. His failure in attack is symptomatic of the team’s failure overall. The inside backs are not creating space for those outside them – generally, whenever Lawrence gets the ball, he has been heavily marked.

When the coach gets the team’s attack to fire (which we saw some evidence of on the weekend) then we will see the old Lawrence again.

Cheers

Fibro
 
Have a soft spot for Lawrence, reminds me of Wayne Pearce as far as attitude and commitment. I'm not convinced that he still doesn't have a lot to offer and I hope he's able to find his mojo soon and return to his best.
 
Agree with most that he should be given more time cause we all know what he can be, but has anybody else noticed the habit he's developed when defending the line of rushing up out of it to put a shot on the ball carrier which never seems to work? He's usually left on the ground leaving a big hole in the defensive line. He must have the shortest arms in the game cause he can't wrap the ball carrier up.
 
@fibrodreaming said:
Dear colleagues, I can’t contain myself any longer; I must post a reply in Lawrence’s defence. In my view, any talk of Lawrence’s demise as a player is greatly exaggerated, and certainly premature.

I read, for example, that the hip injury has limited him to such an extent that he is of no value to the team.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when he came back from his hip injury and, in a semi-final against St George in 2011, he was put into space a couple of times and he blew Saints away with his pace – he made Soward look like a cart horse.

Last season, and so far this year, Lawrence has had very little room to move. He always seems to get the ball in traffic. His failure in attack is symptomatic of the team’s failure overall. The inside backs are not creating space for those outside them – generally, whenever Lawrence gets the ball, he has been heavily marked.

When the coach gets the team’s attack to fire (which we saw some evidence of on the weekend) then we will see the old Lawrence again.

Cheers

Fibro
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Well said Fibro, here's hoping he tears Parra to shreds 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray:
 
@fibrodreaming said:
Dear colleagues, I can’t contain myself any longer; I must post a reply in Lawrence’s defence. In my view, any talk of Lawrence’s demise as a player is greatly exaggerated, and certainly premature.

I read, for example, that the hip injury has limited him to such an extent that he is of no value to the team.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when he came back from his hip injury and, in a semi-final against St George in 2011, he was put into space a couple of times and he blew Saints away with his pace – he made Soward look like a cart horse.

Last season, and so far this year, Lawrence has had very little room to move. He always seems to get the ball in traffic. His failure in attack is symptomatic of the team’s failure overall. The inside backs are not creating space for those outside them – generally, whenever Lawrence gets the ball, he has been heavily marked.

When the coach gets the team’s attack to fire (which we saw some evidence of on the weekend) then we will see the old Lawrence again.

Cheers

Fibro
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I am a massive fan of Lawrence, ever since he scored on debut against Broncos at Suncorp. I just can't see the same player as I watched 18 months ago.

You are right, he did get back from the hip injury and play well that year. He also toured with the Kangaroos too. But he has not shown the brilliance since then, maybe a small glimpse.

For me I hope its simply part of his road back due to continual injury set backs. But as time goes on I get worried that maybe its a pipe dream.

I never take any pleasure in saying this. I had this guy as a future club captain, hopefully its still on the cards.
 
3 options i guess:
1\. Wing
2\. Prepare him for the backrow (he misses lots of tackles tho…)
3\. Hope our structure improves, he gets better quality ball and shows he still has it.

or the 4th...

He needs to add something to his game, and needs to improve his defence.
 
@fibrodreaming said:
Dear colleagues, I can’t contain myself any longer; I must post a reply in Lawrence’s defence. In my view, any talk of Lawrence’s demise as a player is greatly exaggerated, and certainly premature.

I read, for example, that the hip injury has limited him to such an extent that he is of no value to the team.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when he came back from his hip injury and, in a semi-final against St George in 2011, he was put into space a couple of times and he blew Saints away with his pace – he made Soward look like a cart horse.

Last season, and so far this year, Lawrence has had very little room to move. He always seems to get the ball in traffic. His failure in attack is symptomatic of the team’s failure overall. The inside backs are not creating space for those outside them – generally, whenever Lawrence gets the ball, he has been heavily marked.

When the coach gets the team’s attack to fire (which we saw some evidence of on the weekend) then we will see the old Lawrence again.

Cheers

Fibro
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He flew past a injured soward , also coming back from injury that time, memory recalls he sprinted twice got injured again and has never been the same, the injury has had a huge effect both in attack and defence, he is a liability now
Sorry but was my favourite player, if we want to win a grandfinal put him in nsw cup until he loses his fear, starts to step and sprint and defend like he used to.

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@fibrodreaming said:
Dear colleagues, I can’t contain myself any longer; I must post a reply in Lawrence’s defence. In my view, any talk of Lawrence’s demise as a player is greatly exaggerated, and certainly premature.

I read, for example, that the hip injury has limited him to such an extent that he is of no value to the team.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when he came back from his hip injury and, in a semi-final against St George in 2011, he was put into space a couple of times and he blew Saints away with his pace – he made Soward look like a cart horse.

Last season, and so far this year, Lawrence has had very little room to move. He always seems to get the ball in traffic. His failure in attack is symptomatic of the team’s failure overall. The inside backs are not creating space for those outside them – generally, whenever Lawrence gets the ball, he has been heavily marked.

When the coach gets the team’s attack to fire (which we saw some evidence of on the weekend) then we will see the old Lawrence again.

Cheers

Fibro
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I don't think the player we saw 18 months ago is gone completely. He was also hampered by shoulder and hammy injuries last year which, combined with poor service from our 65 million halves combinations never really allowed for him to settle.

One thing is to be said though… He is terribly out of form and needs to rediscover his mojo quicksmart, otherwise he will become another liability we cannot carry.
 
@fibrodreaming said:
Dear colleagues, I can’t contain myself any longer; I must post a reply in Lawrence’s defence. In my view, any talk of Lawrence’s demise as a player is greatly exaggerated, and certainly premature.

I read, for example, that the hip injury has limited him to such an extent that he is of no value to the team.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when he came back from his hip injury and, in a semi-final against St George in 2011, he was put into space a couple of times and he blew Saints away with his pace – he made Soward look like a cart horse.

Last season, and so far this year, Lawrence has had very little room to move. He always seems to get the ball in traffic. His failure in attack is symptomatic of the team’s failure overall. The inside backs are not creating space for those outside them – generally, whenever Lawrence gets the ball, he has been heavily marked.

When the coach gets the team’s attack to fire (which we saw some evidence of on the weekend) then we will see the old Lawrence again.

Cheers

Fibro
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you're right in almost every aspect and i agree with some of your opinions as well, however you are missing his defensive efforts.. his turning around speed is very slow.. when players get on the outside, lawrence isnt able to get to them. he also gets shown defensive positioning wise. before he used to run and shut the play off from the source (playmaker).

it's his defensive efforts that is making him "out of form"… not one person here can say anyone in this side is at the top of their attacking game, coz we cant seem to form any combinations
 
His defense was keeping that jumper his tbh
He didn't have the attack last year injured or not but his defense was decent. Give him a few more weeks.
I think it's difficult having to work with Koroibete at this stage of his career in terms of defense. It should improve

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