Cleary: "That's not what we're about"

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Surely Cleary must acknowledge that the best full back in the club this year is Naqaima?

He killed it for Fiji pre season and instead Cleary stuffs around with Lolohea and Thompson all year.

I also have issues with a few other selection….
 
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I was not a JT fan ,but his career was ruined by bringing Cleary on board, Cleary with the advantage of a blank cheque re recruitment, has not delivered

For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

Exactly what I’m saying, furthermore hope I don’t get banned for this ,but islander forwards are good for impact as they are advantaged by being bigger than most, however, when heart is required, they are often missing, Cleary spent a lot of dough on a couple of islander forwards and backs and they have not delivered,more years of rebuilding I’m afraid
 
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I was not a JT fan ,but his career was ruined by bringing Cleary on board, Cleary with the advantage of a blank cheque re recruitment, has not delivered

For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

I suppose you’ll be calling for Taylor to come back?

Just calling it like it is. No need to be sassy.
 
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Packer sounded very emotional in the presser. At least the passion is still there

Shame he was just standing to the side after Canberra scored and wasn’t trying to get the team refocused. We really need to choose a captain and stick to it. Games like today are completely unacceptable.
 
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I was not a JT fan ,but his career was ruined by bringing Cleary on board, Cleary with the advantage of a blank cheque re recruitment, has not delivered

For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

I suppose you’ll be calling for Taylor to come back?

Just calling it like it is. No need to be sassy.

Lol- sassy I am not.
 
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I was not a JT fan ,but his career was ruined by bringing Cleary on board, Cleary with the advantage of a blank cheque re recruitment, has not delivered

For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

Exactly what I’m saying, furthermore hope I don’t get banned for this ,but islander forwards are good for impact as they are advantaged by being bigger than most, however, when heart is required, they are often missing, Cleary spent a lot of dough on a couple of islander forwards and backs and they have not delivered,more years of rebuilding I’m afraid

Quality racism…
 
Let's not all turn on Cleary now, he's doing the best with what he's got and what was available.
None of us we're expecting much this season and don't let the first half 6 weeks of the season go to your head.
He's turned us into a team that at least gives ourselves a chance most weeks even though we haven't got the cattle to deliver the knockout punch, which is sometimes torture to watch.

But I'm sure Cleary could feel a loss like this wasn't to far away, though he'd never admit it.
We lack 2 dominant props
A hard running back rower or 3
A classy centre, maybe 2 (Masters is good but he's playing more like a backrower)
A classy 9
A speedy winger

And a different home ground.
 
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Packer sounded very emotional in the presser. At least the passion is still there

Shame he was just standing to the side after Canberra scored and wasn’t trying to get the team refocused. We really need to choose a captain and stick to it. Games like today are completely unacceptable.

Never understood why he couldn’t choose one captain .
Having 5 so called leaders is so indesisive…. much like his team selections .
 
Didn’t mention colour Pete, just stated the obvious, obviously you love giving cap money away without return
 
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I was not a JT fan ,but his career was ruined by bringing Cleary on board, Cleary with the advantage of a blank cheque re recruitment, has not delivered

For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

Cleary isn't perfect, no doubt and todays effort was poor as have some of his selections, to he fair though we are probably playing at a 1.5 mill disadvantage roster wise eith unused cap.

Give him time and see how he goes this time next year before we get the pitchforks out.
 
I’m afraid of our 30 players less than half are true NRL standard….i’ll Call this out now....Cleary will be gone after 2020, off to the Roosters who can attract and buy any player they want....think about it, if u were Cleary which club would you prefer to coach.....?a hand picked team of stars or a team of try hard wanna be’s......?
 
The knives are coming out for Ivan quick now
I think that's very unfair
Let's not forget that Ivan said this was a rebuilding year and it would take time
It's fair to say that if ivan could pick a team from all players in the NRL the team would not look anything like it does now
We still need a few more upgrades like Mbye and Ivan is doing the best with what's available
Ivan is not to blame for our players second half effort
That falls on the players who are on the field
They are the ones making the tackles
Or should I say missing them
60 plus missed tackles Ivan's fault
Come on guys
Does he have to go out and make the tackles himself
Our team failed in the second 40 today
Not Ivan
 
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Didn’t mention colour Pete, just stated the obvious, obviously you love giving cap money away without return

I didn't say you mentioned colour. When you generalise that islanders don't play with any heart, that's racist.
 
That last line sums it up.

"We can't let it define our season".

You can Russell. It's season over after today.
It's defined us to the bottom 8.
 
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For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

I suppose you’ll be calling for Taylor to come back?

Just calling it like it is. No need to be sassy.

Lol- sassy I am not.

Dont react to the baiter!
 
He hasn’t helped the situation by opting on a rotation system. Was only a couple weeks ago he said he still didn’t know what his best 17 was. How is that possible halfway into the season.
 
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That last line sums it up.

"We can't let it define our season".

You can Russell. It's season over after today.
It's defined us to the bottom 8.

I'll go further than that, the bottom 4.
 
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I was not a JT fan ,but his career was ruined by bringing Cleary on board, Cleary with the advantage of a blank cheque re recruitment, has not delivered

For 12 months Cleary has been lauded over for doing something JT couldn’t do, attract players. Easy to do when you have an open chequebook and your predecessor had a bag of rocks. Let’s not forget Potter either. Another coach who got dudded with a terrible cap. Pay is going through the same situation at the Dogs.

Thats what ive been saying for ages ….cleary and his team had more money to spend than any other coach we've had...at the time i smelt a panic buy to appease the critics....as i thought at the time most of the buys have obviously just came here for their over inflated pay cheques....the worry is most of these hacks were signed to long term contracts....i can see us being in the same poo as the dogs....a team of plodders that you cant afford to get rid of
 
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Didn’t mention colour Pete, just stated the obvious, obviously you love giving cap money away without return

I didn't say you mentioned colour. When you generalise that islanders don't play with any heart, that's racist.

This is a forum mate, where people can express their opinions which I do t believe are racist, so stick your nose where it smells best
 

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