Coach's fears surface in loss

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Here is your article, point out the part that was relevant to your argument.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/spineless-storm-show-a-bit-of-backbone-but-tigers-too-tough-20120608-201wa.html

SEVEN in a row. This one was hardly magnificent, but it was enough. Which is very much unlike the Tigers, who were hanging on at the death as the Storm sensed their own kill.
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Usually the Tigers finish fast; last night they faded, but they prevailed.
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Keith Galloway of the Tigers is tackled by Jaiman Lowe.
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Keith Galloway of the Tigers is tackled by Jaiman Lowe. Photo: Getty Images
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While it will not go down as the Tigers' best performance of the season, it would have been one of their most pleasing. Not only did the Tigers win a grind against Melbourne - albeit an understrength Storm side - the combination of halfback Benji Marshall and five-eighth Curtis Sironen continues to blossom.
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Sironen is an imposing figure for one so young. Perhaps that is one reason he has looked so comfortable in the side, just three matches into his NRL career. That said, he has shown the skill to match the size. Some of his touches last night were subtle, superb. He is indeed a gun of a son.
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Despite winning six straight matches, there was still a feeling the Tigers had still not been truly tested. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, not even Melbourne could provide a true test, not without their three best players away on Origin duty. With Cameron Smith, Billy Slater and Cooper Cronk watching the match on television from Coolum, the Storm appeared to be more like a rather blustery wind.
Former Storm man Adam Blair of the Tigers is tackled.
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Former Storm man Adam Blair of the Tigers is tackled. Photo: Getty Images
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Still, Melbourne were never going to roll over. They presented the Tigers with an ideal opportunity to play against a side that still has backbone even without its famous spine.
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The Tigers had their own demons too. Not only had they never played at AAMI Park before, no Tigers side had been able to win in Melbourne. And they had to endure the loss of their fullback Tim Moltzen in the warm-up. Beau Ryan was shifted to fullback while Blake Ayshford was given a starting role, rare of late.
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The Tigers had their own skipper out, Robbie Farah being in camp with NSW, but they are always given an advantage at this time of year, having the best player not able to play Origin in their line-up. Marshall's impact was almost immediate; the five-eighth kicked a fourth-minute 40-20, then used the same boot to score the first points of the night with a seventh-minute penalty.
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That showed the Tigers were prepared to get into an arm-wrestle. And they did. They were patient; despite the few opportunities through most of the first half going unrewarded, they did not panic.
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Melbourne scrambled superbly in the first half, which is one of the many things they do better than anyone else. But without their stars, they could not put enough pressure on the Tigers in attack.
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Still they scrapped though, and they were rewarded on the last kick of the first half. Five-eighth Gareth Widdop levelled up the scores with a 40th-minute penalty.
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The Tigers weren't taking their chances, the Storm weren't creating them; it was beginning to look like these sides were paying homage to Euro 2012, starting later in the night, with a 2-2 scoreline.
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Shortly after halftime, the Tigers broke the shackles. Both wingers had scored within seven minutes of the restart, and the Tigers had achieved, in the conditions, a potentially winning score.
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Just three minutes into the second half, good work down the Tigers' left side gave Lote Tuqiri a try. Then they tried their luck on the other side of the field. Matt Utai ducked under the attempted tackle of Dane Nielsen, risking the prospect of head-butting the turf for someone so vertically challenged, to stretch the lead past a converted try.
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Their short burst of points having done its work, the Tigers could settle back down, knowing the Storm were unlikely to score one try, let alone two. They got one, through Nielsen, and pushed hard for a second up until the final seconds. But the Tigers held their nerve.
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WESTS TIGERS 10 (L Tuqiri M Utai tries B Marshall goal) bt MELBOURNE 6 (D Nielsen try G Widdop goal) at AAMI Park. Referee: Shayne Hayne, Gerard Sutton. Crowd: 11,274.
 
i did and as i said, it mentioned tigers winning despite not performing good.

dude, trust me, if you think we played good last couple of months, go for it.. maybe i watch storm, bulldogs, manly etc. too much.
 
Did you see the part about not having our skipper, losing our fullback in the warm up, shuffling our backline and playing a centre at 5/8th….and still winning the wrestle against a committed and well drilled side in a city we have never won at?

I am honestly going to have to chalk your opinion up to inexperience if you think that Tigers v Storm showed that we weren't playing as a team.

It seems you will believe anything a DT/FF hack writes up.
 
storm lost their 1,7,9 as well, we still had our main attacking weapon while they had their 4th choice there. secondly, we didn't win the ruck/ wrestle.. i watched that game very closely, and i can assure you that.

you can say that it may be my inexperience but except the cowboys game, we have not been attacking like a structured team.
 
@LaT said:
Did you see the part about not having our skipper, losing our fullback in the warm up, shuffling our backline and playing a centre at 5/8th….and still winning the wrestle against a committed and well drilled side in a city we have never won at?

I am honestly going to have to chalk your opinion up to inexperience if you think that Tigers v Storm showed that we weren't playing as a team.

It seems you will believe anything a DT/FF hack writes up.
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Has the fact Melbourne were missing Slater, Cronk and Smith been forgotten or we only choosing to look at how we were disadvantaged?
 
@tig_prmz said:
storm lost their 1,7,9 as well, we still had our main attacking weapon while they had their 4th choice there. secondly, we didn't win the ruck/ wrestle.. i watched that game very closely, and i can assure you that.

you can say that it may be my inexperience but except the cowboys game, we have not been attacking like a structured team.
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There is more to being a team then just throwing the ball around, attacking with structure and racking up big scores.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@LaT said:
Did you see the part about not having our skipper, losing our fullback in the warm up, shuffling our backline and playing a centre at 5/8th….and still winning the wrestle against a committed and well drilled side in a city we have never won at?

I am honestly going to have to chalk your opinion up to inexperience if you think that Tigers v Storm showed that we weren't playing as a team.

It seems you will believe anything a DT/FF hack writes up.

Has the fact Melbourne were missing Slater, Cronk and Smith been forgotten or we only choosing to look at how we were disadvantaged?
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Nobody is forgetting that mate. Look at the point I am making though. We banded together and despite not racking up a cricket score, played and defended well as a team. It was a gritty win we could still be proud of.

This kid is holding up Storm/Raiders as examples we were playing shit as a team and its just not true.
 
@LaT said:
Nobody is forgetting that mate. Look at the point I am making though. We banded together and despite not racking up a cricket score, played and defended well as a team. It was a gritty win we could still be proud of.

This kid is holding up Storm/Raiders as examples we were playing s*** as a team and its just not true.
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im talking about the attack… attacking as a team, it was just individuals doing their own thing rather than having a set play. example, ryan's try/set up against raiders. benji's wierd looking kicks, our strength has been the amount of decoy runner running around and benji taking a pick or setting lawrence/tuqiri up in the corner <-- that's the teamwork im talking about. we have a chaos in attack atm... and it has been this way this entire year.
 
I agree with the comment that we are not the team that we think we are. (or would like to be). I was hoping these words were not going to come up again this year but inconsistent and commitment seem to be rearing their heads again. Whilst it's becoming obvious we are concentrating on being more patient with the ball and or completion rates at times are almost perfect, we then let ourselves down in other aspects of the game. We are a team that is unable to focus on more then 2 or 3 things at a time and don't seem to be able to play a complete game consistently. I think we need to just have to come to terms with the fact that we are not the team we all would like our Tigers to be. there are glimpses of controlled aggression but all to rare from our forwards, we are not intimidating to other packs, Benji is being patient with the ball in hand which is great to see but then not choosing his times correctly as to when to surprise the defence, our defence under the high ball is horrible, but then Moltzen will take a high ball, beat 3 players and get it out to the 40\. Once again it's the heart attack tigers coming our way and we just don't know what game they are going to play week to week.
 
@Merlot Tiger said:
I agree with the comment that we are not the team that we think we are. (or would like to be). I was hoping these words were not going to come up again this year but inconsistent and commitment seem to be rearing their heads again. Whilst it's becoming obvious we are concentrating on being more patient with the ball and or completion rates at times are almost perfect, we then let ourselves down in other aspects of the game. We are a team that is unable to focus on more then 2 or 3 things at a time and don't seem to be able to play a complete game consistently. I think we need to just have to come to terms with the fact that we are not the team we all would like our Tigers to be. there are glimpses of controlled aggression but all to rare from our forwards, we are not intimidating to other packs, Benji is being patient with the ball in hand which is great to see but then not choosing his times correctly as to when to surprise the defence, our defence under the high ball is horrible, but then Moltzen will take a high ball, beat 3 players and get it out to the 40\. Once again it's the heart attack tigers coming our way and we just don't know what game they are going to play week to week.
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IMHO, if we struggle, Marshall often takes too much responsibility, he than tries to play risky and sometimes it pays off and sometimes doesn't.
 
@PYMBLEPETE said:
I think its a bit harsh to be blaming Sheens. He has quite rightly identified that the Roosters and Knights would be up for those games - but the players have not responded accordingly. It is hardly a surprise; we have seen the same from this team, particularly at this time of the year, over recent seasons. Even the ever enthusiastic Beau Ryan seemed to be down on enthusiasm last night.
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I thought that Sheens was the coach of this side. Silly me.

If you can't blame him, who do you blame? The players? no doubt. Ok then. When there are no changes to the team that played the way they did, how about Sheens then?
 
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