Confirmed: Matulino to hang up boots after career ending knee injury.

@Tiger_Steve said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1071413) said:
@Spacecub said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1071408) said:
I was talking about this today with JRs mum and she was under the belief that matulino has been medically retired...has there been anything official from the club


Would be strange for the club not to keep us informed!

Might need to wait for the next Q&A for some info...
 
@WT2K said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1071429) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1071413) said:
@Spacecub said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1071408) said:
I was talking about this today with JRs mum and she was under the belief that matulino has been medically retired...has there been anything official from the club


Would be strange for the club not to keep us informed!

Might need to wait for the next Q&A for some info...


Special guest Ivan - to explain himself.
 
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter
 
@hsvjones I don ‘t think anything has been finalised with the knee injury as yet ... it will be interesting what would be the case if Burgess gets the golden hand shake .. side note I have heard that Souths want him gone no matter what hence the speed this is happening .. probable already have someone ready to step in on top dollar !
 
FWIW he was asked on twitter if he was playing on in 2020....

He replied with a breakdance emoji, whatever the hell that means...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenMatulino/status/1184318952295370752
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072726) said:
FWIW he was asked on twitter if he was playing on in 2020....

He replied with a breakdance emoji, whatever the hell that means...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenMatulino/status/1184318952295370752


Looks like his knees are fixed
 
@tigerap said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072727) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072726) said:
FWIW he was asked on twitter if he was playing on in 2020....

He replied with a breakdance emoji, whatever the hell that means...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenMatulino/status/1184318952295370752


Looks like his knees are fixed

Hard to tell what twitter messages mean...

But our credibility will be shot if a bloke our medical staff claimed was not able to ever play again suddenly plays on. We will not have any chance with future attempts to get a hearing.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072728) said:
@tigerap said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072727) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072726) said:
FWIW he was asked on twitter if he was playing on in 2020....

He replied with a breakdance emoji, whatever the hell that means...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenMatulino/status/1184318952295370752


Looks like his knees are fixed

Hard to tell what twitter messages mean...

But our credibility will be shot if a bloke our medical staff claimed was not able to ever play again suddenly plays on. We will not have any chance with future attempts to get a hearing.

Nah, he didn't reply to the question asked. So, no need for concern on that front.
 
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072721) said:
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter



This!

I see it playing out the same way. precedence and favouritism was revealed during the Inglis retirement.
 
@Snake said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072723) said:
@hsvjones I don ‘t think anything has been finalised with the knee injury as yet ... it will be interesting what would be the case if Burgess gets the golden hand shake .. side note I have heard that Souths want him gone no matter what hence the speed this is happening .. probable already have someone ready to step in on top dollar !


Probably so they can get their hands on a Broncos forward would be my guess.
 
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072721) said:
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter

Maybe wait until a decision is made before you start whining further about bias and lack of fan respect.
 
@jirskyr said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072748) said:
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072721) said:
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter

Maybe wait until a decision is made before you start whining further about bias and lack of fan respect.


If the above scenario does play out, I look forward to your defence of the NRL once more. This is another of the 'writings on the wall' moments that's all too common in league circles. I hope I'm wrong in this case.
 
@rustycage said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072777) said:
@jirskyr said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072748) said:
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072721) said:
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter

Maybe wait until a decision is made before you start whining further about bias and lack of fan respect.


If the above scenario does play out, I look forward to your defence of the NRL once more. This is another of the 'writings on the wall' moments that's all too common in league circles. I hope I'm wrong in this case.

And if it doesn't, and the NRL grant it, I look forward to you admitting you were wrong and the NRL treated us fairly
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072778) said:
@rustycage said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072777) said:
@jirskyr said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072748) said:
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072721) said:
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter

Maybe wait until a decision is made before you start whining further about bias and lack of fan respect.


If the above scenario does play out, I look forward to your defence of the NRL once more. This is another of the 'writings on the wall' moments that's all too common in league circles. I hope I'm wrong in this case.

And if it doesn't, and the NRL grant it, I look forward to admitting you were wrong and the NRL were fair to our club.



Absolutely I would. That's my point. I think everyone would.
 
@rustycage I 2nd that and would be happy to admit I was wrong.. Been burnt too many times by the NRL to remain positive with them. If people think the NRL are fair towards us and not trying to push us out they have their heads in sand.
 
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072796) said:
@rustycage I 2nd that and would be happy to admit I was wrong.. Been burnt too many times by the NRL to remain positive with them. If people think the NRL are fair towards us and not trying to push us out they have their heads in sand.

I sometimes read other clubs forums, just for a different perspective, and one thing that is common amongst all of them is that they all think the NRL is out to get them. Believe it or not, even Roosters supporters think it. I find it exhausting enough supporting this club, let alone finding the energy to fight this imaginary force that's out to get us.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072800) said:
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072796) said:
@rustycage I 2nd that and would be happy to admit I was wrong.. Been burnt too many times by the NRL to remain positive with them. If people think the NRL are fair towards us and not trying to push us out they have their heads in sand.

I sometimes read other clubs forums, just for a different perspective, and one thing that is common amongst all of them is that they all think the NRL is out to get them. Believe it or not, even Roosters supporters think it. I find it exhausting enough supporting this club, let alone finding the energy to fight this imaginary force that's out to get us.

Totally agree. There is an astounding lack of perspective in every supporter base.

NRL can't do this and that, NRL are frauds, NRL are incompetent, NRL are against us etc.

The reality is that the NRL is currently run as well as it has ever been - as determined by the size of the business, the revenues, the TV ratings, the broadcasting deals, the crowd sizes. That's not to say the NRL is perfect, far from it, but relatively speaking the business is healthy and profitable.

Whether or not it's popular with the fans etc. is personal opinion. Ratings and crowds would indicate it's still a popular product, though emergence of widespread streaming media is producing a TV downturn for all sports, including AFL.

Specifically on the Tigers however, you can count on 1 hand the amount of times the NRL has specifically punished or gone after the Tigers. Literally. If not for the Farahgate issue, there'd be almost zero examples of the NRL seriously penalising or railroading the Tigers. Some folks will complain that the NRL "wants Tigers to move or die" and then conveniently forget that 6 few years ago the NRL bailed out Balmain's debt to enable the JV to restructure and continue regular operations.

In previous iterations of the NSWRL/ARL, the Chairman wielded enormous nearly unchecked power. Think about blokes like Ken Arthurson and Kevin Humphreys and the self-interested powerbrokers behind the scenes at Phillip St in the 70s and 80s.

The current CEO role has only existed since 1998 and is designed to be more business-oriented, with greater checks on power. The current CEO now answers to the independent ARLC - to the extent that persons with recent ties to clubs can't even serve on the ARLC at this time.

So to suggest that the NRL "has it in" for one specific club is to suggest that the CEO, 9-member ARLC, including ARLC Chairman, plus associated NRL officers, combined together, have a singular interest to the detriment of one club. Highly unlikely. They are also far from incompetent; on the contrary, the top figures in NRL administration are very successful businesspersons and sports managers. The NRL is too large an organisation to risk hiring nuffies.

Whether or not you specifically agree with the way NRL goes about business is your own personal opinion. Noting of course that any fan is extraordinarily biased themselves - almost certainly more biased than any NRL official, to the point of blindness.
 
@rustycage said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072777) said:
@jirskyr said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072748) said:
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072721) said:
Just watch Souths pay out Sam Burgess because of his shoulders and medical retire him with no questions asked by the NRL.... Even though he has had shoulder problems for years prior to him signing his current massive deal.

Yet we us ask for Ben M to go into medical retirement and will be declined even through he has played all his games with us but 2 prior to the injury.. The NRL is such a bias comp and its becoming a joke. I thought fans matter

Maybe wait until a decision is made before you start whining further about bias and lack of fan respect.


If the above scenario does play out, I look forward to your defence of the NRL once more. This is another of the 'writings on the wall' moments that's all too common in league circles. I hope I'm wrong in this case.

I'll judge each case independently on the actual outcome. It may or may not include defending the NRL. Point I'm making is not to go off half-cocked when we have absolutely no decisions made.
 
@jirskyr said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072807) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072800) said:
@hsvjones said in [Knee injury may force Matulino to hang up boots](/post/1072796) said:
@rustycage I 2nd that and would be happy to admit I was wrong.. Been burnt too many times by the NRL to remain positive with them. If people think the NRL are fair towards us and not trying to push us out they have their heads in sand.

I sometimes read other clubs forums, just for a different perspective, and one thing that is common amongst all of them is that they all think the NRL is out to get them. Believe it or not, even Roosters supporters think it. I find it exhausting enough supporting this club, let alone finding the energy to fight this imaginary force that's out to get us.

Totally agree. There is an astounding lack of perspective in every supporter base.

NRL can't do this and that, NRL are frauds, NRL are incompetent, NRL are against us etc.

The reality is that the NRL is currently run as well as it has ever been - as determined by the size of the business, the revenues, the TV ratings, the broadcasting deals, the crowd sizes. That's not to say the NRL is perfect, far from it, but relatively speaking the business is healthy and profitable.

Whether or not it's popular with the fans etc. is personal opinion. Ratings and crowds would indicate it's still a popular product, though emergence of widespread streaming media is producing a TV downturn for all sports, including AFL.

Specifically on the Tigers however, you can count on 1 hand the amount of times the NRL has specifically punished or gone after the Tigers. Literally. If not for the Farahgate issue, there'd be almost zero examples of the NRL seriously penalising or railroading the Tigers. Some folks will complain that the NRL "wants Tigers to move or die" and then conveniently forget that 6 few years ago the NRL bailed out Balmain's debt to enable the JV to restructure and continue regular operations.

In previous iterations of the NSWRL/ARL, the Chairman wielded enormous nearly unchecked power. Think about blokes like Ken Arthurson and Kevin Humphreys and the self-interested powerbrokers behind the scenes at Phillip St in the 70s and 80s.

The current CEO role has only existed since 1998 and is designed to be more business-oriented, with greater checks on power. The current CEO now answers to the independent ARLC - to the extent that persons with recent ties to clubs can't even serve on the ARLC at this time.

So to suggest that the NRL "has it in" for one specific club is to suggest that the CEO, 9-member ARLC, including ARLC Chairman, plus associated NRL officers, combined together, have a singular interest to the detriment of one club. Highly unlikely. They are also far from incompetent; on the contrary, the top figures in NRL administration are very successful businesspersons and sports managers. The NRL is too large an organisation to risk hiring nuffies.

Whether or not you specifically agree with the way NRL goes about business is your own personal opinion. Noting of course that any fan is extraordinarily biased themselves - almost certainly more biased than any NRL official, to the point of blindness.

Agree but they are reactionary and need to set penalties in place for on and off field indiscretions so players know if they step out of line they will know what to expect as a minimum
 
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