Corona impact on NRL...?

@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

And that's fair enough? Same goes for the immunocompromised... But these halfwits who reject on the "Me dids me innernets research" basis are just fools. Same fools who line the pockets and share memes of charlatans like David Avocado Wolfe.

Cartwright is dumber than a bag of rocks so even if there were any adverse cognitive effects he wouldn't be any worse off anyway.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149257) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

And that's fair enough? Same goes for the immunocompromised... But these halfwits who reject on the "Me dids me innernets research" basis are just fools. Same fools who line the pockets and share memes of charlatans like David Avocado Wolfe.

Cartwright is dumber than a bag of rocks so even if there were any adverse cognitive effects he wouldn't be any worse off anyway.

He has a doctors certificate
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149259) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149257) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

And that's fair enough? Same goes for the immunocompromised... But these halfwits who reject on the "Me dids me innernets research" basis are just fools. Same fools who line the pockets and share memes of charlatans like David Avocado Wolfe.

Cartwright is dumber than a bag of rocks so even if there were any adverse cognitive effects he wouldn't be any worse off anyway.

He has a doctors certificate

Good for him?
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149260) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149259) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149257) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

And that's fair enough? Same goes for the immunocompromised... But these halfwits who reject on the "Me dids me innernets research" basis are just fools. Same fools who line the pockets and share memes of charlatans like David Avocado Wolfe.

Cartwright is dumber than a bag of rocks so even if there were any adverse cognitive effects he wouldn't be any worse off anyway.

He has a doctors certificate

Good for him?

Makes it hard for the QLD gov to stop him from playing.
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149261) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149260) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149259) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149257) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

And that's fair enough? Same goes for the immunocompromised... But these halfwits who reject on the "Me dids me innernets research" basis are just fools. Same fools who line the pockets and share memes of charlatans like David Avocado Wolfe.

Cartwright is dumber than a bag of rocks so even if there were any adverse cognitive effects he wouldn't be any worse off anyway.

He has a doctors certificate

Good for him?

Makes it hard for the QLD gov to stop him from playing.

I'm not commenting on his finding a way to play and dodge the flu shot requirement. I'm commenting on anti-vaxxer hysteria and their supposed enlightenment despite having zero experience in epidemiology or medicine. But hey they watched 50 hours of Youtube conspiracies so they must have their facts together to combat people with 10+ years of doctorate qualifications who have a fundamental understanding of how and why vaccines work.

As funny as watching a Type 1 diabetic rage against big Pharma while jabbing themselves with their synthetic insulin.
 
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149273) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149261) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149260) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149259) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149257) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

And that's fair enough? Same goes for the immunocompromised... But these halfwits who reject on the "Me dids me innernets research" basis are just fools. Same fools who line the pockets and share memes of charlatans like David Avocado Wolfe.

Cartwright is dumber than a bag of rocks so even if there were any adverse cognitive effects he wouldn't be any worse off anyway.

He has a doctors certificate

Good for him?

Makes it hard for the QLD gov to stop him from playing.

I'm not commenting on his finding a way to play and dodge the flu shot requirement. I'm commenting on anti-vaxxer hysteria and their supposed enlightenment despite having zero experience in epidemiology or medicine. But hey they watched 50 hours of Youtube conspiracies so they must have their facts together to combat people with 10+ years of doctorate qualifications who have a fundamental understanding of how and why vaccines work.

As funny as watching a Type 1 diabetic rage against big Pharma while jabbing themselves with their synthetic insulin.

I agree 100%, the interesting interview I saw was with Mat Rogers, he had a go at the anti-vaxxers, saying that when his son was diagnosed with Autism that he naturally looked into the role vaccines may have played and there is just no evidence to claims that vaccines are harmful. If anyone has a reason to be cynical of vaccines Mat is one of them and he is incredibly pro vaccine.
 
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149273) said:
As funny as watching a Type 1 diabetic rage against big Pharma while jabbing themselves with their synthetic insulin.

I've mentioned this before, I work in the drug industry; all the conspiracy stuff is crap.

In decades gone by, Pharma companies were certainly more shady, as much as any other company in 1970 or 1980 trying to get an edge and maybe not having what we would now consider a sufficient ethical standard or moral code. No different from share traders or big industry polluters or cigarette companies or shoe manufacturers. But not nowadays, the rules are too strict and the penalties are too high for Pharma to systematically cheat, and it's too easy to be found out.

Case in point - I can tell you for FACT that I cannot spend USD 10 on US doctors without having to disclose it to the US authorities. It's called the Sunshine Act, active since 2010, and it means that if I buy a doctor or a nurse a sandwich and a coffee in the US, I have to disclose it to the authorities. I can be fired if I fail to do this.

But no, the numpties want to suggest there's some Big Pharma conspiracy. Pharma are certainly out there to make money, no doubt, but they also happen to improve very very many lives whilst they do that. You can't necessarily say the same thing about banks, construction companies, insurance brokers, share traders, phone manufacturers etc. If not Pharma, don't expect the governments to shell out an appropriate budget to discover new drugs, they just don't do it.

So with vaccines, if they were a sham or there was significant risk, we'd hear about it. There are too many people involved to keep such things a secret, even if "they" tried. There have literally been billions and billions of doses of flu vaccine given over the decades. It clearly has some positive impact, because we haven't seen a Spanish Flu-type influenza again and the burden of flu on society is decreased overall, even if not eradicated (which some people confuse, the difference between eradicating something and attenuating it).

There is a very very large amount of money and time invested in ensuring drugs are safe before they go to market. It is not perfect, but it is as good a scientific system as we have, and the industry is always trying to improve the methodology. Personally, myself and everyone in my company and my role, we don't get any kind of different compensation if a drug works or does not work. We are only paid to deliver the research, we have no upside if the drug ends up successful, apart from personal satisfaction. I therefore have no skin in the game apart from ensuring I do a good job.
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149277) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor, even if it's only a "certificate" for a "sickie".
 
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149280) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149277) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor.

Agree 100%, it could all be crap but once he has that doctors certificate everyone's hands are tied.
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149282) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149280) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149277) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor.

Agree 100%, it could all be crap but once he has that doctors certificate everyone's hands are tied.

To be honest I'm happy with that, it's how it should have played out in the first place. If Bryce had half a brain, he should have gone to his doc straight away, rather than go on social media and refuse the jab on personal grounds that "weren't anti-vaxxer but still, I have my reasons".

I wonder if Bryce can get a medical cert from same doctor for being a halfwit.
 
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149284) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149282) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149280) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149277) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor.

Agree 100%, it could all be crap but once he has that doctors certificate everyone's hands are tied.

To be honest I'm happy with that, it's how it should have played out in the first place. If Bryce had half a brain, he should have gone to his doc straight away, rather than go on social media and refuse the jab on personal grounds that "weren't anti-vaxxer but still, I have my reasons".

I wonder if Bryce can get a medical cert from same doctor for being a halfwit.

Maybe also one to exempt him from tackling?
 
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149279) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149273) said:
As funny as watching a Type 1 diabetic rage against big Pharma while jabbing themselves with their synthetic insulin.

I've mentioned this before, I work in the drug industry; all the conspiracy stuff is crap.

In decades gone by, Pharma companies were certainly more shady, as much as any other company in 1970 or 1980 trying to get an edge and maybe not having what we would now consider a sufficient ethical standard or moral code. No different from share traders or big industry polluters or cigarette companies or shoe manufacturers. But not nowadays, the rules are too strict and the penalties are too high for Pharma to systematically cheat, and it's too easy to be found out.

Case in point - I can tell you for FACT that I cannot spend USD 10 on US doctors without having to disclose it to the US authorities. It's called the Sunshine Act, active since 2010, and it means that if I buy a doctor or a nurse a sandwich and a coffee in the US, I have to disclose it to the authorities. I can be fired if I fail to do this.

But no, the numpties want to suggest there's some Big Pharma conspiracy. Pharma are certainly out there to make money, no doubt, but they also happen to improve very very many lives whilst they do that. You can't necessarily say the same thing about banks, construction companies, insurance brokers, share traders, phone manufacturers etc. If not Pharma, don't expect the governments to shell out an appropriate budget to discover new drugs, they just don't do it.

So with vaccines, if they were a sham or there was significant risk, we'd hear about it. There are too many people involved to keep such things a secret, even if "they" tried. There have literally been billions and billions of doses of flu vaccine given over the decades. It clearly has some positive impact, because we haven't seen a Spanish Flu-type influenza again and the burden of flu on society is decreased overall, even if not eradicated (which some people confuse, the difference between eradicating something and attenuating it).

There is a very very large amount of money and time invested in ensuring drugs are safe before they go to market. It is not perfect, but it is as good a scientific system as we have, and the industry is always trying to improve the methodology. Personally, myself and everyone in my company and my role, we don't get any kind of different compensation if a drug works or does not work. We are only paid to deliver the research, we have no upside if the drug ends up successful, apart from personal satisfaction. I therefore have no skin in the game apart from ensuring I do a good job.

Mate without "Big Pharma" I was dead 25 years ago. Wouldn't have hit double digits.

I have an incredible debt to people who developed Warfarin and Sotalol. Yeah Warfarin is basically rat boot, it's not perfect and I'd love to have an alternative that acts the same way without all the bleed risks and temperamental INR effects but it's just not here at the moment. I've still managed to live a good life with all those risks thanks to those drugs.

There's always a simple retort to anyone who thinks that Big Pharma are out to thin the herd or whatever hare-brained excuse they come out with: Why are we living longer than we ever have before and managing certain conditions that would have caused death or severe co-morbidities previously?
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149282) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149280) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149277) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor.

Agree 100%, it could all be crap but once he has that doctors certificate everyone's hands are tied.


Funny how the "medical" reason popped up suddenly days after it all started. If it is a legitimate reason it would have been stated on Day 1 not Day 10 - BS to me
 
@dazza65 said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149332) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149282) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149280) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149277) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149274) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149244) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149237) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1149223) said:
Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor.

Agree 100%, it could all be crap but once he has that doctors certificate everyone's hands are tied.


Funny how the "medical" reason popped up suddenly days after it all started. If it is a legitimate reason it would have been stated on Day 1 not Day 10 - BS to me

It does seem extremely "convenient"
 
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Any player if they can provide medical grounds to not receive the Flu shot..can play..as long as they sign a waiver...personal grounds however will not get an exemption..

A small % of people do have an adverse reaction to the shot...you are warned of this by your doctor before the injection...

Did he contract autism or did he get chills or a red lump at the injection site. Exactly what reactions is he concerned about?

You'd have to ask Bryce....but from experience a teacher I know a few years ago had a flu shot an had an extreme allergic reaction similar to anaphylaxis..throat swelled trouble breathing ambo's were called..safe to say she hasn't had one since..

So if he is allergic to the components of flu shots, it would have been VERY easy to just say that, in public. "I need to decline flu shots because I am at risk of anaphylactic shock". Then nobody gets in his grill and he arguably gets a waiver quite quickly. I therefore assume he's not actually allergic to flu shots.

That may be the case but he has now presented a doctor certificate stating he has a medical reason to not get a shot. That pretty much closes the whole thing.

Yeah it does, but it might be a BS reason. Just you can't really challenge it if assessed by a doctor.

Agree 100%, it could all be crap but once he has that doctors certificate everyone's hands are tied.


Funny how the "medical" reason popped up suddenly days after it all started. If it is a legitimate reason it would have been stated on Day 1 not Day 10 - BS to me

Agreed, but you can't argue a doctors certificate.
 
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