Corona impact on NRL...?

[GNR4LIFE]

Bennett had the right idea. Send the whole comp to one location, preferably a hotter climate, and play out of there. I know player and public safety is what should be the priority, but the game is going to lose millions.

 

[JD Tiger]

Perhaps the biggest problem, is the fox tv deal. Fox have paid billions of dollars for the rights to so many games per week, each week of the season.

What happens when NRL is suspended for a few weeks, or a few months, or most or even all of the season... does Fox just lose that money? Or do they take NRL to court and duke it out there? In Court usually the bigger fish wins, which is Fox.

Anyone know what the media companies are doing with the American sports, could this be an issue, or not?

Lol it’s not billions, but it’s a massive issue. It’s like your membership - you pay and can’t go, you want your money back. You sponsor something and it’s not delivered, you want your money back. No one is a charity, it’s So,ple contract law

It’s not a fox thing it’s a federal govt thing and they usually win.

Hopefully the tigers, Fox and the nrl Have the right insurances in place so I don’t lose out.

Put the tinfoil caps away people and go buy some toilet paper

Why the tinfoil cap comment, why insult people? Insults say more about the person giving the insult than the person they are directing it at.

I still say it's a legitimate question, can the NRL afford it if Fox don't pay some of those tv rights? You say you hope the right assurances are in place so you don't lose out, that's cool, Im wondering if the league can afford it and not go broke? I believe Tyga's post was along the same line.

 

[WT2K]

Perhaps the biggest problem, is the fox tv deal. Fox have paid billions of dollars for the rights to so many games per week, each week of the season.

What happens when NRL is suspended for a few weeks, or a few months, or most or even all of the season... does Fox just lose that money? Or do they take NRL to court and duke it out there? In Court usually the bigger fish wins, which is Fox.

Anyone know what the media companies are doing with the American sports, could this be an issue, or not?

Not sure if this answers your question but this was from Rothfield earlier.

https://twitter.com/BuzzRothfield/status/1238759900836065280?s=19
Without broadcast money, clubs go broke, players won't get paid, sponsors, members & season ticket holders will have to be given their money back.

 

[JD Tiger]

Well if the league has to go into hiatus, and goes broke as a result, when all this is finally over, I will support my team in whatever shape or form it still exists in.

Wests Tigers forever, even if it becomes the standard of current Group level footy, I'll still support my team.

 

[WT2K]

Well if the league has to go into hiatus, and goes broke as a result, when all this is finally over, I will support my team in whatever shape or form it still exists in.

Wests Tigers forever, even if it becomes the standard of current Group level footy, I'll still support my team.

This article sums it up well
https://amp.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-stars-lose-millions-in-coronavirus-act-of-god-clause-report/news-story/f59b3f0052192b4dddf89b691a934e43?__twitter_impression=true

 

[JD Tiger]

Well if the league has to go into hiatus, and goes broke as a result, when all this is finally over, I will support my team in whatever shape or form it still exists in.

Wests Tigers forever, even if it becomes the standard of current Group level footy, I'll still support my team.

This article sums it up well
https://amp.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-stars-lose-millions-in-coronavirus-act-of-god-clause-report/news-story/f59b3f0052192b4dddf89b691a934e43?__twitter_impression=true

I have despised Greenburg ever since his Bulldogs days, but if he and V'landys can somehow see the NRL develop a good way to try and steer us through all this, then I will be very impressed and thankful for their actions.

 

[happy_tiger]

but getting enough Panadol to cover two weeks in case your family needs to self isolate with the risk of all getting CV isn’t madness or enough tinned food for two weeks isn’t madness
>Or even worse …the underprepared will expect the prepared to hand over their stuff and if not …pandemonium

"The prepared". What an odd statement. Tell me exactly how one "prepares" for novel coronavirus outbreak. What is the template? The governments and health authorities don't even yet agree and haven't fully decided.

Suppose you are right, suppose 2 weeks is fair. I know roughly how much I poop in 2 weeks and it's not 16 toilet rolls worth. I know how roughly how much pain reliever me and my family require if we all come down with the flu, and it wouldn't be more than a bottle, 2 at most. I know roughly how many cans of food and packets of pasta to feed us for a fortnight, and it might be 5 or 6 cans each and 2-3 packets of pasta total. So suppose I buy 8 rolls of TP, 2 bottles panadol, 6 cans pp and 4 packets pasta for the next 2 weeks, assuming at some point I will not just be able to roll in and buy my regular bread and milk, assuming I have to subsist on these lower perishables. Fine, let's make that argument.

So if you run in and buy 24 rolls TP, 6 bottles panadol, 16 packets pasta and 60 cans, fill up three or four shopping trolleys. Well you may consider yourself "prepared", but you have just stolen the potential allocation for 2-3 other families.

If all the produce in Australia was placed on an imaginary large pallet, and you just took what you felt like, or the "first ones in" did, the "prepared", the pallet would be bare before half of us got around to getting our share. So in that case, in that borderline anarchy, then yeah you can bet the "unprepared" will just start stealing what they need from those who are hoarding. If it's anarchy, after all, then what good is simply "having the stuff" if someone can come and take if from you, in desperation.

Better we have come to our senses early and avoid the whole fight of the "prepared' and "unprepared", take only what you need for now, wait for further instructions, stay calm.

Well seeing I'm not a total dimwit we brought about a dozen tins of baked beans , a dozen tins spaghetti . 4 family tins of tuna , 2 100packs of panamax and a new BBQ that I haven't replaced since we threw the old one out after Xmas

Alright with you .....

No I don't know what we need to get us through a pandemic but if I have overdone it is better than underdoing it and then relying on govt assistance that CAN GO TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MORE THAN YOU OR I

 

[happy_tiger]

Not sure if I made this point earlier today but the Govt still expects registered voters in Qld to go out and keep them employed on the 28th of March

I reckon we should send them all a message and not vote and tell them we all think we have CV

The absolute hypocrisy of it all

 

[happy_tiger]

My Brother in Law came out with a funny ..he said when the two week in home self care starts he expects to see a massive spike in child births in 9 months time .....he also asks will they be known as coronials ??

 

[swag_tiger]

I'm kinda worried this could be the beginning of the end for the NRL.

 

[happy_tiger]

The only difference between this and any other flu is there’s no flu shot , so we all just have to rely on our immune systems

Respectfully, that's not correct. This virus is many times more infectious than the flu which is why it has already reached pandemic status.

You only need to see the total country lockdowns, travel bans, America declaring a state of emergency and the global financial markets collapsing to understand this is far more than just a flu.

The predictions of the experts are concerning. Do the maths: 20% of the population will likely get the disease - that's 5 million Australians. 20% of those will need hospital treatment - that's 1 million people (we only have 140,000 hospital beds in Australia). 3% of those 5 million could die - that's 150,000 potential deaths. Our health systems and morgues could not cope.

And that friends, is why you shouldn't go to the football this week and why the government has been recklessly slow in implementing measures to stop the spread. They're only just realising how bad this is and my concern is we've shut the gate after the horse had bolted.

I had a friend who was in Wuhan when this broke. Whilst China were irresponsible in how the handled the initial outbreak, I was staggered by what he said the authoritarian government did when they realised what they were dealing with. Barbed wire around buildings, compulsory masks, forced isolation - that's why they're now reducing numbers.

I’m not debating any other that mate . You’re numbers are exaggerated though , but that’s semantics , and I get it , as it rams your point home .
I’m saying for the most part , stop the panicking , follow what the authorities have said , don’t go to public places , wash your hands etc.
And more than likely you’ll be fine .

People are acting crazy mate . 10 years ago in another life , I spent 9 months in a place most people, will never see . With threats all around you. We followe our due dilligence . Did our check but for the most part , went about our day as normal as we could .
Relaxing is not apathy or complacency. And it actually leads to more coherent and thought about decisions as you’re minimising the amount of emotion is influencing these decisions . That’s all I’m saying. The TP shortage is case in point . It’s embarrassing and honestly frightening, because of how feral everyone gets in a crisis .

The NSW Govt itself is predicting 1.2 -1.5 million NSWmen to get it

On those numbers 5-7 million Australians get it

If people think that 1.2 is all going to happen over a two week period and then all stop in that same 2 week window

How do you get to work .....do you go to the shops ...do your kids go to school ...do you have elderly parents or Grandparents who need help

When was the last time you were at hospital ...how long did you wait under normal conditions ......we could operate off power shedding ..you may lose power for up to 6 hours a day

I'm not worried for myself or my kids ....we will get through it .......but many of us have elderly parents / grandparents /friends etc ...if they get it they may not be lucky

What is happening in Italy could end up happening here ...write it off to your own possibly demise

If you’re not going to read what I wrote don’t reply to me ! None of what you said is at all relevant . I’m merely talking specifically about 1 thing . Panicking! And how it adds nothing and is actually counter intuitive.
Be vigilant , stay safe . But relax . That’s it. You want to quote numbers and statistics to prove your point . That’s fine . I just refuse to live life as glass half empty.
I know how I go in a true crisis . And I go alright . When I’m relaxed . When I’m heightened . I make poor decisions .
If you want to focus on the fact , you or someone you love has a less than 3% chance to die . That’s fine . I’d rather focus on the more likely 97% chance you’ll be fine .

Not relevant to you I guess ...relevant to many others


Not relevant to the point I’m making.
1. Relaxing is not “apathy” ie. not giving a crap or being lazy
2. Panicking and carrying on , actually makes things worse.
3. Follow all processes and protocols and you will , just by statistics , be more than likely fine .
4. If you think you or someone you love is not fine get em to the hospital .
Otherwise chill out and stop perpetuating drama . And that’s world wide. Be vigilant . Stay safe . Get on with it .

My point is you will probably be OK and so will I probably

How many elderly family members do you have if they get it are far greater risk

I know how many I have and if everyone rushes those family members to their local hospitals (as you suggested ) the hospital system will crash it barely copes day to day without any problems

And when the Hospital crash all the other problems will increase ....staph infections etc ....last June we ran out the tablets taken for staph infections nation wide .. so what happened ..our hospitals had to take those who didn't have access to tablets on to keep them on IV meds

So how does panicking solve that scenario ? Also you’re acting like it’s the Black Plague? As in like everyone is going to require ER ? So people have to share bedrooms . They have to sleep on stretchers . Defence force doctors are called in to cope with demand . What’s the problem ? You might have to limit your tv time . Maybe you’ll have to go for a drive to another hospital . At no point is that a time for panic .

Let’s assume happy is super calm and totally relaxed...is the answer that if our hospitals are overflowing and he’s run out of medication that the ADF will step in?

What happens after the ADF run out of resources...assuming no one has panicked yet...what’s next?

Its my job to think on my feet , adapt and think outside the box for solutions

As much as I can be super organized things change quickly

As for the Warriors situation ...tough one ...part of me says Australia accepted them into the National Rugby League and they have two choices ..stay and play or forfeit the season until it is safe as far as their Govt is concerned ...maybe because I don't want the season to be lost

If I show some morality and compassion the season has to stop ...we don't want any harm to our ANZAC brothers and sisters deep , deep down they probably feel the same way

 

[the_third]

Perhaps the biggest problem, is the fox tv deal. Fox have paid billions of dollars for the rights to so many games per week, each week of the season.

What happens when NRL is suspended for a few weeks, or a few months, or most or even all of the season... does Fox just lose that money? Or do they take NRL to court and duke it out there? In Court usually the bigger fish wins, which is Fox.

Anyone know what the media companies are doing with the American sports, could this be an issue, or not?

Lol it’s not billions, but it’s a massive issue. It’s like your membership - you pay and can’t go, you want your money back. You sponsor something and it’s not delivered, you want your money back. No one is a charity, it’s So,ple contract law

It’s not a fox thing it’s a federal govt thing and they usually win.

Hopefully the tigers, Fox and the nrl Have the right insurances in place so I don’t lose out.

Put the tinfoil caps away people and go buy some toilet paper

Why the tinfoil cap comment, why insult people? Insults say more about the person giving the insult than the person they are directing it at.

I still say it's a legitimate question, can the NRL afford it if Fox don't pay some of those tv rights? You say you hope the right assurances are in place so you don't lose out, that's cool, Im wondering if the league can afford it and not go broke? I believe Tyga's post was along the same line.

Tin foil probably a reach and not directly at you, but most of the doomsday preppers out there (And more a sign of my general annoyance) and there are a few. (I’ve got a couple of kg’s of flour and no eggs.... hope you can make Dampier).

You are right, I’m generally fed up at the hysteria filled reactionism. Look at the Facebook posts saying I’ve hoarded a stockpile and FU...they get self worth out of that??? What about your parent, grand parents that are genuinely at risk - do they have food/sanitiser because they may dies???? <rant over>

For the nrl it’s hard, millions tied up, club members, club sponsors, nrl sponsors, tv, radio, online rights. Don’t forget the Media companies that onslold the rights, websites etcthat make money off free content (google Twitter Facebook etc) it’s a clustersometbing financially. We just saw AAP go out of business, what happens to journalism, seriously what happens if no one payS that bills. We get the ABC - Governement controlled - how’s that work in the rest of the works.

What about the nrl/Qrl is sso going Ahead, are juniors impacted, how about clubs without pokies.

No one will pay for something the don’t get, businesses are no different to you and I - except there is a mutually unacceptable position that can be negotiated. A win/win (or at least no ones loose) outcome.

Your questions are real

It’s a massive issue

 

[happy_tiger]

I understand the NRL and ARLC are making a statement tomorrow morning

I don't think they should make any statements regarding the season until the Rd is finished ..it's not fair to the clubs playing Sunday to be honest

 

[JD Tiger]

Perhaps the biggest problem, is the fox tv deal. Fox have paid billions of dollars for the rights to so many games per week, each week of the season.

What happens when NRL is suspended for a few weeks, or a few months, or most or even all of the season... does Fox just lose that money? Or do they take NRL to court and duke it out there? In Court usually the bigger fish wins, which is Fox.

Anyone know what the media companies are doing with the American sports, could this be an issue, or not?

Lol it’s not billions, but it’s a massive issue. It’s like your membership - you pay and can’t go, you want your money back. You sponsor something and it’s not delivered, you want your money back. No one is a charity, it’s So,ple contract law

It’s not a fox thing it’s a federal govt thing and they usually win.

Hopefully the tigers, Fox and the nrl Have the right insurances in place so I don’t lose out.

Put the tinfoil caps away people and go buy some toilet paper

Why the tinfoil cap comment, why insult people? Insults say more about the person giving the insult than the person they are directing it at.

I still say it's a legitimate question, can the NRL afford it if Fox don't pay some of those tv rights? You say you hope the right assurances are in place so you don't lose out, that's cool, Im wondering if the league can afford it and not go broke? I believe Tyga's post was along the same line.

Tin foil probably a reach and not directly at you, but most of the doomsday preppers out there (And more a sign of my general annoyance) and there are a few. (I’ve got a couple of kg’s of flour and no eggs.... hope you can make Dampier).

You are right, I’m generally fed up at the hysteria filled reactionism. Look at the Facebook posts saying I’ve hoarded a stockpile and FU...they get self worth out of that??? What about your parent, grand parents that are genuinely at risk - do they have food/sanitiser because they may dies???? <rant over>

For the nrl it’s hard, millions tied up, club members, club sponsors, nrl sponsors, tv, radio, online rights. Don’t forget the Media companies that onslold the rights, websites etcthat make money off free content (google Twitter Facebook etc) it’s a clustersometbing financially. We just saw AAP go out of business, what happens to journalism, seriously what happens if no one payS that bills. We get the ABC - Governement controlled - how’s that work in the rest of the works.

What about the nrl/Qrl is sso going Ahead, are juniors impacted, how about clubs without pokies.

No one will pay for something the don’t get, businesses are no different to you and I - except there is a mutually unacceptable position that can be negotiated. A win/win (or at least no ones loose) outcome.

Your questions are real

It’s a massive issue

I don't know mate, it's all getting a bit hectic. I heard in the news that down outside my local supermarket today, in the carpark, a 90 year old woman was robbed of the toilet paper she had just bought. I don't know what the answers are for the NRL or for our country. Maybe they're just scared, which is okay, to be scared. It's not okay to act like that to others, but it's alright to feel scared.

I'm talking rubbish mate, I desperately want us to win tomorrow, because I really don't think they will play next week.

 

[rustycage]

Bennett had the right idea. Send the whole comp to one location, preferably a hotter climate, and play out of there. I know player and public safety is what should be the priority, but the game is going to lose millions.

Telfa perhaps? Let's see how the precious little Moses' of this world deal with living in a donga in the desert.

 

[Tigerdave]

Only just read about New Zealand going to enforce a 14 day isolation for anyone entering the country.

So the Warriors will have no home games and be stuck in Australia for the entire season..... assuming the season still goes ahead.

 

[TheDaBoss]

H ey

If the nrl gets suspended


It is a + for us lol, it means that we get liddle back "earlier"

 

[twentyforty]

The Warriors need to go home and be with their families.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

The Warriors need to go home and be with their families.

100%, could you imagine going to work one day and your boss saying sorry we need you to stay here indefinitely. Peter Hiku’s wife is due to have a baby very soon, a lot of the squad would have young families. Family has to come first regardless. Imagine if the NRL keeps them here and one of there family members get sick.

 

[twentyforty]

The Warriors need to go home and be with their families.

100%, could you imagine going to work one day and your boss saying sorry we need you to stay here indefinitely. Peter Hiku’s wife is due to have a baby very soon, a lot of the squad would have young families. Family has to come first regardless. Imagine if the NRL keeps them here and one of there family members get sick.

Given that scenario a player could be haunted the rest of his life. Each player needs to have a choice based on personal circumstances. If that means they can’t get the numbers then so be it. We are facing a pandemic likened in severity with the Spanish Flu. Sure medical science has progressed enormously since 1918, but we now have identity politics at play.