Corona impact on NRL...?

@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146028) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146022) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145961) said:
Fans get fined 10 k for running out on the field ......

The game just doesn't get it and doesn't care ...I hope the Govt now says No to the NRL now

NRL doesn't fine fans for stadium breaches, it's the stadium trust mate. It applies to all codes not just rugby league.

When did I say they did ...I was using it as an example

An example of what, then? Fines for things that aren't rugby league? That NRL fines should match general society fines? If it's not about the NRL then what does it have to do with the NRLs fining structure?
 
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146157) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146028) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146022) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145961) said:
Fans get fined 10 k for running out on the field ......

The game just doesn't get it and doesn't care ...I hope the Govt now says No to the NRL now

NRL doesn't fine fans for stadium breaches, it's the stadium trust mate. It applies to all codes not just rugby league.

When did I say they did ...I was using it as an example

An example of what, then? Fines for things that aren't rugby league? That NRL fines should match general society fines? If it's not about the NRL then what does it have to do with the NRLs fining structure?

So what ...you reckon that the police fines were ample

My point is that fans doing something wrong get whacked for 6 .....NRL players get lashed a thousand times with a lettuce leaf

And our fines aren't lessened by 60 % if we are good for 6 months

JAC has been warned 3 times for Christ sakes
 
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146033) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146023) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145988) said:
@diedpretty said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145985) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145954) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145950) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145948) said:
@gallagher said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145947) said:
Hang on , was that NRL fines or Police fines?

NSW Police..NRL still to comment..

NRL has just announced santions
https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/04/28/mitchell-addo-carr-fined-$50000-cleary-fined-$10000-for-self-isolation-breaches/

I stand corrected

Mitchell, Addo-Carr fined $50,000; Cleary fined $10,000 for self-isolation breaches
Author
Alicia Newton
NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp
Tue 28 Apr 2020, 03:01 PM
Alicia Newton

Latrell Mitchell and Josh Addo-Carr have both been fined $50,000 for breaching self-isolation protocols.

Tyronne Roberts-Davis and Nathan Cleary have both been fined $10,000.

All four players have been also been given a one-match ban, which has been suspended for the remainder of the season, after the NRL announced they had bought the game into disrepute.

Sixty per cent of the fines have also been suspended for the remainder of the season.

The NRL announced the players had each shown a blatant disregard for public health orders, guidelines and advice and in doing so have brought significant reputational damage to the sport.

The penalties allege that each player has brought the game into disrepute and do not pass judgment on any ongoing police investigations.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys said "the players have a responsibility to the game and community".


"It is important that, in these challenging times, we all have to work together to combat COVID-19 and compliance with public health orders is a critical requirement,’" he said.

"The players have to understand that they are putting the game and the community at risk by their actions.

"It’s certainly hard to accept such behaviour when the game is doing everything it can to persuade the community that its players are responsible and behave appropriately.

"The penalties have been structured so as to give these players one further opportunity to demonstrate that they can be trusted. If they contravene again, then those parts of the penalty that have been suspended will be activated and they may also be subject to further sanction."

NRL acting CEO Andrew Abdo said the game acted quickly to send a clear message to all players and the wider community.

"It's not the circumstances I'd expect to do my first press conference. The actions of our players that have come to light over the past couple of days has been disappointing and we have decided we needed to act swiftly," he said.

"This is on all of us and our players are no different, it's important the players know they are held to a higher account. I think we've got to look at this in two phases. The players are not in the care of the clubs, they've been stood down and are in the hands of the public health order.

"As we enter into the training period and the second phase the protocols are significantly higher. We are all humans, humans make mistakes and there are consequences for those mistakes."

In explaining why Mitchell and Addo-Carr received harsher sanctions, Abdo said each matter needed "to be handled on individual merits".

"What's happened with Latrell and Josh is they've gone on a planned holiday. That's very different to someone being at home. It's a very different context," he said.

"I'm not going to make a comment around what's appropriate from a cultural perspective. This has nothing to do with culture or race.

"I have multiple concerns and as you can imagine I am focused on a number of things. We are working day and night to get the competition back up and running. Any setback is a setback for the game.

"We take this matter very seriously. I know a lot of our players are doing the right thing and if they're not they'll face sanctions.

"The match ban gives them an opportunity to think about their actions going forward and give the playing group an idea of what's at stake here.


"There's a very detailed set of protocols that are with the clubs that are yet to be finalised. We'll talk about that when the time is right."

Abdo, in the statement issued by the governing body, said NRL players must set the standards for the public to follow.

"The sanctions proposed today are stronger than fines which can be imposed by authorities because we hold our players to a higher standard and they must set a higher standard for the community,’" he said.

"We are focused on resuming the competition on May 28, something our fans and stakeholders are excited about. Players who do not comply with community and NRL protocols will face sanction."

All four players will have five days to respond to the breach notices before a final determination is made.

"We've done what we think is fair in the actions. Upon reflection I think this will affect the players," Abdo said in his media conference.

"We've reached out to all the players, they have the opportunity to respond, they have five days and we will engage with them and take it from there.

"It's an absolute privilege to be servicing the game. I don't think I could have come up with a scenario we're in with a global pandemic. I'm going to work tirelessly in the day and night to do what we can."

Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who comes to mind. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

And Vlandy's reckons Abdo is the right man

I don't know ...Rugby League is such a huge sport in South Africa ...isn't it

What does that have to do with it? The best is the best, doesn't matter if they are Chinese or Icelandic or South African; also doesn't matter if they played rugby league as a boy or not. We've had tonnes and tonnes of in-game appointments in 112 years of Aussie league and frankly it's not a guaranteed recipe for success.

Well he is 0/1

And I prefer someone who understands that if you don't ride these blokes with an iron rod they will run over you

It almost like they decided to test the Vice Principal and he dropped the ball straight up

You watch the problems with these imbeciles will continue because the people running this game are soft roosters

I'd be glad for you to show me the season(s) of rugby league where players DID NOT get in trouble - I don't think such a thing exists. I also don't believe that if you were to go max penalty - sack Latrell and Fox for the season, that other footballers won't do something dumb. I mean, Okunbor didn't need lessons to know it's not smart to nail schoolgirls, but he did it anyway.

Hell it's probably normal, for 500 males selected based on physical ability rather than book smarts, given loads of money, fame and spare time; I reckon if you took any random sample of 500 males there'd be annual drama. That's not to say their behaviour is acceptable, just that you'll find plenty of morons in a sample of 500 men (and women too probably). Everything is then worse under social media, where so much behaviour is recorded, unlike days gone past when the hooliganism wasn't reported.

Also this isn't a straightforward case. There's no precedent for "penalties you should be handing down for breaking pandemic isolation protocols", so whether or not it is a fair and reasonable penalty is an opinion only. Would a more severe penalty stop other footballers breaking protocol? Well hard to say, they are about to reduce the restrictions anyway.
 
The bit i dont get

is the 60% is on hold "if they be good" does this mean good for not breaking the new Covid rules or good as in Not doing any silly stuff on field e.g. SHoulder Charges high tackles etc
 
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146160) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146157) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146028) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146022) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145961) said:
Fans get fined 10 k for running out on the field ......

The game just doesn't get it and doesn't care ...I hope the Govt now says No to the NRL now

NRL doesn't fine fans for stadium breaches, it's the stadium trust mate. It applies to all codes not just rugby league.

When did I say they did ...I was using it as an example

An example of what, then? Fines for things that aren't rugby league? That NRL fines should match general society fines? If it's not about the NRL then what does it have to do with the NRLs fining structure?

So what ...you reckon that the police fines were ample

My point is that fans doing something wrong get whacked for 6 .....NRL players get lashed a thousand times with a lettuce leaf

And our fines aren't lessened by 60 % if we are good for 6 months

JAC has been warned 3 times for Christ sakes

https://youtu.be/QfSuD1TeRG4

There is not a lot of brain matter in that head. He's an imbecile.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146160) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146157) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146028) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146022) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145961) said:
Fans get fined 10 k for running out on the field ......

The game just doesn't get it and doesn't care ...I hope the Govt now says No to the NRL now

NRL doesn't fine fans for stadium breaches, it's the stadium trust mate. It applies to all codes not just rugby league.

When did I say they did ...I was using it as an example

An example of what, then? Fines for things that aren't rugby league? That NRL fines should match general society fines? If it's not about the NRL then what does it have to do with the NRLs fining structure?

So what ...you reckon that the police fines were ample

My point is that fans doing something wrong get whacked for 6 .....NRL players get lashed a thousand times with a lettuce leaf

And our fines aren't lessened by 60 % if we are good for 6 months

JAC has been warned 3 times for Christ sakes

I haven't heard about any Australian citizen, fined by the cops for breaking COVID isolation, then being fined an additional $50K by their employer. In this current situation, fans are not being whacked for 6, they are also receiving $1K fines from the cops.

Other than that, this incident is not comparable to other fines issued. If Latrell invaded the pitch at the SCG when not playing, he'd also get the $10K fine.

JAC being warned or otherwise is about the cops not the NRL. The guy eating a kebab in the park also got warned 3 times by the fuzz before he was fined.

I would definitely have supported a heavier fine for JAC and Latrell, but that's just my personal opinion. It doesn't mean anything against the chairman or interim CEO if the NRL or other institution chooses another level of fine.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146163) said:
The bit i dont get

is the 60% is on hold "if they be good" does this mean good for not breaking the new Covid rules or good as in Not doing any silly stuff on field e.g. SHoulder Charges high tackles etc

You would assume it means off-field, but also, who really cares.

I don't know if people realise, the big incident here is the firearms charges not coronavirus. People all across the country being fined for breaking protocol, which is inevitable, and we are still on a good trajectory for the disease, so enough people are doing the right thing.

But the firearms charges would have been an issue even if COVID didn't exist.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146160) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146157) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146028) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146022) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145961) said:
Fans get fined 10 k for running out on the field ......

The game just doesn't get it and doesn't care ...I hope the Govt now says No to the NRL now

NRL doesn't fine fans for stadium breaches, it's the stadium trust mate. It applies to all codes not just rugby league.

When did I say they did ...I was using it as an example

An example of what, then? Fines for things that aren't rugby league? That NRL fines should match general society fines? If it's not about the NRL then what does it have to do with the NRLs fining structure?

So what ...you reckon that the police fines were ample

My point is that fans doing something wrong get whacked for 6 .....NRL players get lashed a thousand times with a lettuce leaf

And our fines aren't lessened by 60 % if we are good for 6 months

JAC has been warned 3 times for Christ sakes

The matter is before the courts as far a Police charges go ..so lets wait and see...

There are plenty of examples where Joe Citizen receive fines then suspended placed on good behaviour bonds etc etc depending on offences...

You said yourself when restrictions 1st started you knew of parties what not still going on..does that make it right of course not but the world is not Utopian..

I'm OK with the suspended fines for now ..remembering all RL players are going to be under stricter controls and protocols to get the game started again than the general public..

We have a baseline now so it does send a message to all other RL players and officials...any repeat offenders or breaches can be dealt with case by case with harsher penalties if need be..
 
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146162) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146033) said:
@jirskyr said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146023) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145988) said:
@diedpretty said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145985) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145954) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145950) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145948) said:
@gallagher said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1145947) said:
Hang on , was that NRL fines or Police fines?

NSW Police..NRL still to comment..

NRL has just announced santions
https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/04/28/mitchell-addo-carr-fined-$50000-cleary-fined-$10000-for-self-isolation-breaches/

I stand corrected

Mitchell, Addo-Carr fined $50,000; Cleary fined $10,000 for self-isolation breaches
Author
Alicia Newton
NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp
Tue 28 Apr 2020, 03:01 PM
Alicia Newton

Latrell Mitchell and Josh Addo-Carr have both been fined $50,000 for breaching self-isolation protocols.

Tyronne Roberts-Davis and Nathan Cleary have both been fined $10,000.

All four players have been also been given a one-match ban, which has been suspended for the remainder of the season, after the NRL announced they had bought the game into disrepute.

Sixty per cent of the fines have also been suspended for the remainder of the season.

The NRL announced the players had each shown a blatant disregard for public health orders, guidelines and advice and in doing so have brought significant reputational damage to the sport.

The penalties allege that each player has brought the game into disrepute and do not pass judgment on any ongoing police investigations.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys said "the players have a responsibility to the game and community".


"It is important that, in these challenging times, we all have to work together to combat COVID-19 and compliance with public health orders is a critical requirement,’" he said.

"The players have to understand that they are putting the game and the community at risk by their actions.

"It’s certainly hard to accept such behaviour when the game is doing everything it can to persuade the community that its players are responsible and behave appropriately.

"The penalties have been structured so as to give these players one further opportunity to demonstrate that they can be trusted. If they contravene again, then those parts of the penalty that have been suspended will be activated and they may also be subject to further sanction."

NRL acting CEO Andrew Abdo said the game acted quickly to send a clear message to all players and the wider community.

"It's not the circumstances I'd expect to do my first press conference. The actions of our players that have come to light over the past couple of days has been disappointing and we have decided we needed to act swiftly," he said.

"This is on all of us and our players are no different, it's important the players know they are held to a higher account. I think we've got to look at this in two phases. The players are not in the care of the clubs, they've been stood down and are in the hands of the public health order.

"As we enter into the training period and the second phase the protocols are significantly higher. We are all humans, humans make mistakes and there are consequences for those mistakes."

In explaining why Mitchell and Addo-Carr received harsher sanctions, Abdo said each matter needed "to be handled on individual merits".

"What's happened with Latrell and Josh is they've gone on a planned holiday. That's very different to someone being at home. It's a very different context," he said.

"I'm not going to make a comment around what's appropriate from a cultural perspective. This has nothing to do with culture or race.

"I have multiple concerns and as you can imagine I am focused on a number of things. We are working day and night to get the competition back up and running. Any setback is a setback for the game.

"We take this matter very seriously. I know a lot of our players are doing the right thing and if they're not they'll face sanctions.

"The match ban gives them an opportunity to think about their actions going forward and give the playing group an idea of what's at stake here.


"There's a very detailed set of protocols that are with the clubs that are yet to be finalised. We'll talk about that when the time is right."

Abdo, in the statement issued by the governing body, said NRL players must set the standards for the public to follow.

"The sanctions proposed today are stronger than fines which can be imposed by authorities because we hold our players to a higher standard and they must set a higher standard for the community,’" he said.

"We are focused on resuming the competition on May 28, something our fans and stakeholders are excited about. Players who do not comply with community and NRL protocols will face sanction."

All four players will have five days to respond to the breach notices before a final determination is made.

"We've done what we think is fair in the actions. Upon reflection I think this will affect the players," Abdo said in his media conference.

"We've reached out to all the players, they have the opportunity to respond, they have five days and we will engage with them and take it from there.

"It's an absolute privilege to be servicing the game. I don't think I could have come up with a scenario we're in with a global pandemic. I'm going to work tirelessly in the day and night to do what we can."

Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who comes to mind. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

And Vlandy's reckons Abdo is the right man

I don't know ...Rugby League is such a huge sport in South Africa ...isn't it

What does that have to do with it? The best is the best, doesn't matter if they are Chinese or Icelandic or South African; also doesn't matter if they played rugby league as a boy or not. We've had tonnes and tonnes of in-game appointments in 112 years of Aussie league and frankly it's not a guaranteed recipe for success.

Well he is 0/1

And I prefer someone who understands that if you don't ride these blokes with an iron rod they will run over you

It almost like they decided to test the Vice Principal and he dropped the ball straight up

You watch the problems with these imbeciles will continue because the people running this game are soft roosters

I'd be glad for you to show me the season(s) of rugby league where players DID NOT get in trouble - I don't think such a thing exists. I also don't believe that if you were to go max penalty - sack Latrell and Fox for the season, that other footballers won't do something dumb. I mean, Okunbor didn't need lessons to know it's not smart to nail schoolgirls, but he did it anyway.

Hell it's probably normal, for 500 males selected based on physical ability rather than book smarts, given loads of money, fame and spare time; I reckon if you took any random sample of 500 males there'd be annual drama. That's not to say their behaviour is acceptable, just that you'll find plenty of morons in a sample of 500 men (and women too probably). Everything is then worse under social media, where so much behaviour is recorded, unlike days gone past when the hooliganism wasn't reported.

Also this isn't a straightforward case. There's no precedent for "penalties you should be handing down for breaking pandemic isolation protocols", so whether or not it is a fair and reasonable penalty is an opinion only. Would a more severe penalty stop other footballers breaking protocol? Well hard to say, they are about to reduce the restrictions anyway.

For sure if you get enough idiots under one banner you will have a few problems.
If you weed out the idiots with severe punishments when they get caught, you reduce the idiot-pool so to speak.
The only way of getting idiots to think twice about being idiots in the first place is to hammer them severely. Long stints out of their employment, UNPAID, is the greatest deterrent IMO. If they want to risk that, that's a huge risk to take. No doubt some will risk it anyway, there are various levels of idiocy within the human race.
Giving them pathetic punishments like these blokes got will deter absolutely nobody whatsoever. The NRL has made it's own bed, when the inevitable next bloke/s from clubland screw up I will just sit back and laugh at the NRL.
Will also be extremely interesting to see the severity of punishments handed down to player/s from Bulldogs etc if they get caught soon being idiots, their punishments seem to be disproportionate to their crimes ie: CHN and to a lesser extent Adam Elliott for dropping his dacks on Mad Monday.
The NRL has proven yet again that it is a joke of an organisation that is run by fools.
 
There will be countless of players having girls over etc etc. Let's face it, tell a bunch of football players to be fully isolated, the whole competition, never gonna happen in a million years haha. Only the dumbest allow it to be filmed though!
 
https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league/nathan-clearys-covid-excuse-collapses-as-dancing-videos-emerge-c-1005462

Link to a video and short story of Nathan dancing with some of the girls.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146178) said:
Cleary caught out lying. Should be charged the same as Latrell and JAC or maybe even more.

#BREAKING: Nepean Police say Panthers NRL player Nathan Cleary will not be fined for a breach of social distancing laws.

They say the girls who visited the house have breached the law and are facing fines. More to come. #9News
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146180) said:
https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league/nathan-clearys-covid-excuse-collapses-as-dancing-videos-emerge-c-1005462

Link to a video and short story of Nathan dancing with some of the girls.

Bring back the face of the NRL for 2020, he'd be it. Gould was correct to call for bans for the season. Firearms charges and lying.
 
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146181) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146178) said:
Cleary caught out lying. Should be charged the same as Latrell and JAC or maybe even more.

#BREAKING: Nepean Police say Panthers NRL player Nathan Cleary will not be fined for a breach of social distancing laws.

They say the girls who visited the house have breached the law and are facing fines. More to come. #9News

They made him do it.
 
Ray Hadley reported earlier that another high profile player likely to be named today for breaking social distance rules
 
All the hard work V'Landy had put into getting the comp restarted could be for nothing as he didnt account for the morons amongst the players.
 
@WT2K said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146184) said:
Ray Hadley reported earlier that another high profile player likely to be named today for breaking social distance rules

pleaseee dont be tigers
 
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