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@Jay said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136427) said:
I guess my compliments of nations doing lockdown, is it seems there is science that's most effective. I don't think or care about the economy as much as others, but I acknowledge people need to. That's why Scott isn't calling a lockdown yet. It's money. For me I'm happy to let capitalism as we know it die and reborn lol I don't really care. A better system could start. But I acknowledge many people want our economy not to be in recession not depression to the extent we risk further spread.

I do believe will do a lockdown. But maybe when it hits 5000 confirmed cases. We are around 2.5k currently so lets see next week if it hits 5k. I'm predicting it will in less than a week

Of course it is the most effective solution, but hey, my neighbour wants to upgrade his three year old boat. This health crisis might stop him from doing that and the old couple between us are leaners on our society, so they are going to have to take their lesser chances of survival in their stride, as he really wants that new boat.
 
@Jay said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136436) said:
Hahaha. Well not die. But adjust.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/its-modern-monetary-theory-time-as-the-state-steps-in/news-story/ab070170b6b70ad4dd1fb4319ae1947a?fbclid=IwAR2v_SMdoC3bvtQQ8RxAQbFrWGCGbgmAMpt77t-O6EfIYbBYPn11INgoSF4

Share the wealth Comrade! It's a paid link...Can you post the article?
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136446) said:
@Jay said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136427) said:
I guess my compliments of nations doing lockdown, is it seems there is science that's most effective. I don't think or care about the economy as much as others, but I acknowledge people need to. That's why Scott isn't calling a lockdown yet. It's money. For me I'm happy to let capitalism as we know it die and reborn lol I don't really care. A better system could start. But I acknowledge many people want our economy not to be in recession not depression to the extent we risk further spread.

I do believe will do a lockdown. But maybe when it hits 5000 confirmed cases. We are around 2.5k currently so lets see next week if it hits 5k. I'm predicting it will in less than a week

Of course it is the most effective solution, but hey, my neighbour wants to upgrade his three year old boat. This health crisis might stop him from doing that and the old couple between us are leaners on our society, so they are going to have to take their lesser chances of survival in their stride, as he really wants that new boat.

Your neighbour wants a boat and that affects the old couples chances of survival?

How so?
 
The Scottish virus specialist on triple M said this morning said if just three people where infected on bondi beach the other day before the beach was closed those 3 alone would infect 50000K he also use times 3 on his model should see if someone can post a link

Today just in the sutherland shire there is 366 case comfirm and just times that by three tomorrow then 3 the day after those numbers do climb fast
 
I passed out and colapsed this morning. Pretty sure it’s just down to stress and nothing else, but going to go to the dr’s anyway.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136474) said:
I passed out and colapsed this morning. Pretty sure it’s just down to stress and nothing else, but going to go to the dr’s anyway.

Keep well mate.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136474) said:
I passed out and colapsed this morning. Pretty sure it’s just down to stress and nothing else, but going to go to the dr’s anyway.

damn mate

hope ya go alright
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136373) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136367) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136359) said:
Just looking at this graph from health.gov.au and the thing that stands out for me is that unlike the other states and territories, NSW has less than half of cases as overseas aquired and the difference is quite stark.

![Screenshot_20200325-211041_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1585131367548-screenshot_20200325-211041_gallery-resized.jpg)


NSW is the most populous state, is the usual hub for travel into the country and most significantly has the most liberal rules with regards to testing (its easier to get a test in NSW) and have tested more people.

Plus there is a 134 people on that NSW from the damn Ruby Princess!

I thought that those 134 are spread over their home states and territories, no?

I think there was 127 here
 
@Jay said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136427) said:
I don’t think or care about the economy as much as others, but I acknowledge people need to. That’s why Scott isn’t calling a lockdown yet. It’s money. For me I’m happy to let capitalism as we know it die and reborn lol I don’t really care. A better system could start. But I acknowledge many people want our economy not to be in recession not depression to the extent we risk further spread.

Hi Jay - I assume you haven't lost your job yet?

The alternative to Capitalism is Socialism or Communism. That your preference? Have you done a recent review of the Socialist and Communist nation states? The Communists are China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam. The countries with Socialist constitutions: Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Guyana, North Korea, Nepal, Portugal, Tanzania. Multi-party nations with current Socialist government: Angola, Bolivia, Congo, Ecuador, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Guinea-Bissau, Greece, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Uruguay and Venezuela.

I'm curious to understand which of these utopias, these progressive nation-states with strong social justice, equality, high degree of health care and education, strong economic management, you would rather Australia look like?
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136474) said:
I passed out and colapsed this morning. Pretty sure it’s just down to stress and nothing else, but going to go to the dr’s anyway.

That doesn’t sound good Gnr, hope all is well...
 
@weststigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136448) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136446) said:
@Jay said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136427) said:
I guess my compliments of nations doing lockdown, is it seems there is science that's most effective. I don't think or care about the economy as much as others, but I acknowledge people need to. That's why Scott isn't calling a lockdown yet. It's money. For me I'm happy to let capitalism as we know it die and reborn lol I don't really care. A better system could start. But I acknowledge many people want our economy not to be in recession not depression to the extent we risk further spread.

I do believe will do a lockdown. But maybe when it hits 5000 confirmed cases. We are around 2.5k currently so lets see next week if it hits 5k. I'm predicting it will in less than a week

Of course it is the most effective solution, but hey, my neighbour wants to upgrade his three year old boat. This health crisis might stop him from doing that and the old couple between us are leaners on our society, so they are going to have to take their lesser chances of survival in their stride, as he really wants that new boat.

Your neighbour wants a boat and that affects the old couples chances of survival?

How so?


This is somewhat of a long shot but.. the old couple are moon gazers. After staring at the full moon they go to sleep on the fishers driveway who takes of fishing before daylight. The new boat has lower ground clearance?

Yep, I’ve been locked up for too long. Going stir ?
 
A good country will have a healthy mix of both. Pakistan is a gleaming example of what Libertarianism gives you. China likewise with Communism although I'd debate that they aren't entirely a classically Communist institution.

A state with markets that have controls/regulations and a social safety net whilst allowing others to capitalise on their labour and ideas is fine. You just don't want it going too far one way or the other.
 
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136457) said:
The Scottish virus specialist on triple M said this morning said if just three people where infected on bondi beach the other day before the beach was closed those 3 alone would infect 50000K he also use times 3 on his model should see if someone can post a link

Today just in the sutherland shire there is 366 case comfirm and just times that by three tomorrow then 3 the day after those numbers do climb fast

I don't know if anyone has seen this but it's worth a look. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-26/coronavirus-covid19-global-spread-data-explained/12089028
 
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136491) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136457) said:
The Scottish virus specialist on triple M said this morning said if just three people where infected on bondi beach the other day before the beach was closed those 3 alone would infect 50000K he also use times 3 on his model should see if someone can post a link

Today just in the sutherland shire there is 366 case comfirm and just times that by three tomorrow then 3 the day after those numbers do climb fast

I don't know if anyone has seen this but it's worth a look. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-26/coronavirus-covid19-global-spread-data-explained/12089028


So looking at the graf it would seem the Chinese and Australian governments are telling lies on the reporting of corona
 
@Jay said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136427) said:
I guess my compliments of nations doing lockdown, is it seems there is science that's most effective. I don't think or care about the economy as much as others, but I acknowledge people need to. That's why Scott isn't calling a lockdown yet. It's money. For me I'm happy to let capitalism as we know it die and reborn lol I don't really care. A better system could start. But I acknowledge many people want our economy not to be in recession not depression to the extent we risk further spread.
If the economy completely tanks then there will be mass job losses and severe social consequences. Increased mental health problems. Increased crime, including domestic violence and child abuse. Increased marital disharmony. Increased drug and alcohol abuse. It will be an extremely ugly thing and that's why huge stimulus packages are rightly being rolled out. You don't want to witness the downfall of a political and economic system...
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136474) said:
I passed out and colapsed this morning. Pretty sure it’s just down to stress and nothing else, but going to go to the dr’s anyway.

I hope all is well. Take care.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1136474) said:
I passed out and colapsed this morning. Pretty sure it’s just down to stress and nothing else, but going to go to the dr’s anyway.

Hope you are fine.Stress can do terrible things
 
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