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@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Entering all venues without the app your identity will be taken in full .. I think the overlord is on the money with the app ..
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146753) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Entering all venues without the app your identity will be taken in full .. I think the overlord is on the money with the app ..

I wonder what some people are worried about.
Facebook and Google track you - including where you are and which Websites you visit.
 
@cktiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146760) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146753) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Entering all venues without the app your identity will be taken in full .. I think the overlord is on the money with the app ..

I wonder what some people are worried about.
Facebook and Google track you - including where you are and which Websites you visit.

It's scary sruff ck....the PM has nothing better to do but track when you are having a beer or on the forum. Gaud rest your soul if he finds out you are having a beer while on the forum.
 
@kiwitiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146762) said:
@cktiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146760) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146753) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Entering all venues without the app your identity will be taken in full .. I think the overlord is on the money with the app ..

I wonder what some people are worried about.
Facebook and Google track you - including where you are and which Websites you visit.

It's scary sruff ck....the PM has nothing better to do but track when you are having a beer or on the forum. Gaud rest your soul if he finds out you are having a beer while on the forum.

Crap, I'm doing that right now.
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146751) said:
In Bunnings this afternoon the second wave of the Virus is not far off .. social distancing out the window . Enjoy your freedom as it will be short lived !

People are morons....can't help themselves
 
@cktiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146760) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146753) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Entering all venues without the app your identity will be taken in full .. I think the overlord is on the money with the app ..

I wonder what some people are worried about.
Facebook and Google track you - including where you are and which Websites you visit.

The way I see it if you're going to worry about things like that you may as well sleep with one eye open. Just not a particularly effective way of living your life IMO.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145295) said:
Seems its hard to kill off. 20 cases yesterday, 14 and 12 the two days before. The multiplier is jammed again at 1.002 for three days straight. A glimmer of hope is that it seems to have regularly done this through out its progress, by which I mean that it stagnates at a certain rate for 3-5 days before dropping. Im sure its to do with testing, contract tracing etc. Im still hopeful that somehow we can drop it to zero (multiplier rate of 1.0000) and hold for a few weeks.

It would make a massive difference to the decisions that need to be made and it would also make a massive difference to what "normal" looks like when we get out.

![f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856235890-f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png)

![9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856242586-9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png)

I’m missing the graphics @Tiger5150
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146751) said:
In Bunnings this afternoon the second wave of the Virus is not far off .. social distancing out the window . Enjoy your freedom as it will be short lived !

I did a job at a primary school yesterday after 3pm to avoid the pick up crush. Went into a small office where half a dozen teachers were cramped around a computer watching something. I was gobsmacked.
 
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

He also said he and his government needed to be held to a higher standard than others and that's working well.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146743) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Let me guess we don't need ID's anymore to get into the Pub ...just flash the App

You still get asked for Id Happy
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146811) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146743) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Let me guess we don't need ID's anymore to get into the Pub ...just flash the App

You still get asked for Id Happy

No ...I have to be able reach a certain speed with the zimmer frame
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146811) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146743) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

Let me guess we don't need ID's anymore to get into the Pub ...just flash the App

You still get asked for Id Happy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03kJpPkhmLY
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146793) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146740) said:
Overlord Scomo said if you download Covid safe..you will be able to go to the Pub sooner..

He also said he and his government needed to be held to a higher standard than others and that's working well.

Scomo spent $350m on 6 new patrol boats yesterday for the RAN. I helpfully suggested they be based at North and Middle Heads as well as Garden Island to intercept those pesky and elusive 60,000t cruise ships loaded with passengers ready to infect others.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146785) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145295) said:
Seems its hard to kill off. 20 cases yesterday, 14 and 12 the two days before. The multiplier is jammed again at 1.002 for three days straight. A glimmer of hope is that it seems to have regularly done this through out its progress, by which I mean that it stagnates at a certain rate for 3-5 days before dropping. Im sure its to do with testing, contract tracing etc. Im still hopeful that somehow we can drop it to zero (multiplier rate of 1.0000) and hold for a few weeks.

It would make a massive difference to the decisions that need to be made and it would also make a massive difference to what "normal" looks like when we get out.

![f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856235890-f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png)

![9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856242586-9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png)

I’m missing the graphics @Tiger5150


Not that much to update Mike.

Last 5 days new cases have been 9, 11, 15, 7, 14. Boringly and frustratingly predictable. Exponential multiplier bouncing between 1.001 & 1.002. I know these numbers are low but I almost think that we have pretty much put all of our eggs in the eradication basket and Im nervous it cant be done.

Here are some pretty pictures
![4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371444632-4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png)

![5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371451840-5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png)
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146827) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146785) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145295) said:
Seems its hard to kill off. 20 cases yesterday, 14 and 12 the two days before. The multiplier is jammed again at 1.002 for three days straight. A glimmer of hope is that it seems to have regularly done this through out its progress, by which I mean that it stagnates at a certain rate for 3-5 days before dropping. Im sure its to do with testing, contract tracing etc. Im still hopeful that somehow we can drop it to zero (multiplier rate of 1.0000) and hold for a few weeks.

It would make a massive difference to the decisions that need to be made and it would also make a massive difference to what "normal" looks like when we get out.

![f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856235890-f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png)

![9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856242586-9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png)

I’m missing the graphics @Tiger5150


Not that much to update Mike.

Last 5 days new cases have been 9, 11, 15, 7, 14. Boringly and frustratingly predictable. Exponential multiplier bouncing between 1.001 & 1.002. I know these numbers are low but I almost think that we have pretty much put all of our eggs in the eradication basket and Im nervous it cant be done.

Here are some pretty pictures
![4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371444632-4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png)

![5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371451840-5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png)

That is exactly why we haven't pushed for eradication, for eradication we would be looking at the current levels of restrictions for a couple more months at least.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146830) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146827) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146785) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145295) said:
Seems its hard to kill off. 20 cases yesterday, 14 and 12 the two days before. The multiplier is jammed again at 1.002 for three days straight. A glimmer of hope is that it seems to have regularly done this through out its progress, by which I mean that it stagnates at a certain rate for 3-5 days before dropping. Im sure its to do with testing, contract tracing etc. Im still hopeful that somehow we can drop it to zero (multiplier rate of 1.0000) and hold for a few weeks.

It would make a massive difference to the decisions that need to be made and it would also make a massive difference to what "normal" looks like when we get out.

![f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856235890-f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png)

![9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856242586-9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png)

I’m missing the graphics @Tiger5150


Not that much to update Mike.

Last 5 days new cases have been 9, 11, 15, 7, 14. Boringly and frustratingly predictable. Exponential multiplier bouncing between 1.001 & 1.002. I know these numbers are low but I almost think that we have pretty much put all of our eggs in the eradication basket and Im nervous it cant be done.

Here are some pretty pictures
![4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371444632-4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png)

![5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371451840-5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png)

That is exactly why we haven't pushed for eradication, for eradication we would be looking at the current levels of restrictions for a couple more months at least.


Based on the level of traffic on my way home from work yesterday, people are back out and about anyway
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146831) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146830) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146827) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146785) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145295) said:
Seems its hard to kill off. 20 cases yesterday, 14 and 12 the two days before. The multiplier is jammed again at 1.002 for three days straight. A glimmer of hope is that it seems to have regularly done this through out its progress, by which I mean that it stagnates at a certain rate for 3-5 days before dropping. Im sure its to do with testing, contract tracing etc. Im still hopeful that somehow we can drop it to zero (multiplier rate of 1.0000) and hold for a few weeks.

It would make a massive difference to the decisions that need to be made and it would also make a massive difference to what "normal" looks like when we get out.

![f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856235890-f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png)

![9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856242586-9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png)

I’m missing the graphics @Tiger5150


Not that much to update Mike.

Last 5 days new cases have been 9, 11, 15, 7, 14. Boringly and frustratingly predictable. Exponential multiplier bouncing between 1.001 & 1.002. I know these numbers are low but I almost think that we have pretty much put all of our eggs in the eradication basket and Im nervous it cant be done.

Here are some pretty pictures
![4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371444632-4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png)

![5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371451840-5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png)

That is exactly why we haven't pushed for eradication, for eradication we would be looking at the current levels of restrictions for a couple more months at least.


Based on the level of traffic on my way home from work yesterday, people are back out and about anyway

That's because they have been told we will be lifting restrictions soon, combined with people that believe that because our numbers remained low we overreacted. We were told 6 months, I feel we should have push this hard for at least another month to see if we could really get rid of this thing.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146827) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1146785) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145295) said:
Seems its hard to kill off. 20 cases yesterday, 14 and 12 the two days before. The multiplier is jammed again at 1.002 for three days straight. A glimmer of hope is that it seems to have regularly done this through out its progress, by which I mean that it stagnates at a certain rate for 3-5 days before dropping. Im sure its to do with testing, contract tracing etc. Im still hopeful that somehow we can drop it to zero (multiplier rate of 1.0000) and hold for a few weeks.

It would make a massive difference to the decisions that need to be made and it would also make a massive difference to what "normal" looks like when we get out.

![f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856235890-f49f0685-9832-4be6-9748-a2729b838729-image.png)

![9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1587856242586-9cb3694e-7466-4b8c-a0d7-c1aa4dfe9ef4-image.png)

I’m missing the graphics @Tiger5150


Not that much to update Mike.

Last 5 days new cases have been 9, 11, 15, 7, 14. Boringly and frustratingly predictable. Exponential multiplier bouncing between 1.001 & 1.002. I know these numbers are low but I almost think that we have pretty much put all of our eggs in the eradication basket and Im nervous it cant be done.

Here are some pretty pictures
![4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371444632-4b287251-df3a-4808-8cd4-d348f1f20d73-image.png)

![5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1588371451840-5038b298-de85-4655-aaf6-db1e3544ca27-image.png)

Tracking very well. So much better than all expectations. Let’s hope we can get it to zero new cases and eradicate it.
 
Whilst I would prefer that our governments maintained the restrictions for another week or two, we are opening back up. I have always favoured our schools remaining open for real essential job parents or for safety reasons, but I for one am glad that schools generally aren't going back as yet and especially so upon reading about a new German report from the Guardian website, the relevant part of which is shown below.

****Researchers who analysed data on infected people found that the viral loads in children differed little from those in adults. Opening schools on the assumption that children are less likely to spread the virus was therefore ill-advised, said Christian Drosten, a virologist and Germany’s leading coronavirus expert, who led the team.

Drosten’s study, which was released this week, examined the viral loads in the throats of 3,721 people, including more than 100 children, who tested positive for coronavirus in Berlin between January and April.

He said he had been able to carry out his analysis once the number of tests carried out by Labor Berlin, the largest laboratory of its kind in Europe, had reached the critical mass of 60,000 earlier this week. That gave him and his team enough data to be able to carry out an analysis of children who have had the virus.

Data on children has been scant because of the lack of tests that have been carried out on them, often because they show few if any symptoms.

“The end result is as clear as glass,” Drosten said on his podcast with the broadcaster NDR. “Children do not have significantly different concentrations of the virus in their respiratory passages compared to adults.”

Drosten said children were as likely to spread the virus as adults, particularly given their social behaviour, including an inability to practice physical distancing, their increased mobility and a tendency to sing and cry – activities proven to give the virus droplets as much force as a cough or a sneeze.

Lothar Wieler, the head of Germany’s leading disease control body, the Robert Koch Institute, said on Thursday that children play just as important a role in spreading the disease as adults. “They can be infected, they can excrete the virus and they can infect others,” he said.****
 
I look at the Victorian health office holder embroiled in the Cook issue and all I see is Andrew Denton, do others?
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