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@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295163) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295102) said:
Yet another record daily death toll unfortunately, almost 17,000 covid deaths globally in the last 24 hours.

If it continues at this rate, there will be more covid deaths in the first few months of 2021 than the whole of 2020.

Europe continues to be the worst-faring continent, with almost half the world's deaths over the 24 hour period; the US the worst-faring single country; Brazil and South Africa also struggling particularly badly. The trend is not looking good in Indonesia either.

Those lockdowns are going great

And it goes without saying, that without any lockdowns at all, the numbers would be far far worse. Just how successful lockdowns coupled with social distancing has been, is the absolute collapse in flu numbers.

No country that has tried a 'business as usual' approach has had anything other than disaster. Brazil being a textbook case study.
 
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295166) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295163) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295102) said:
Yet another record daily death toll unfortunately, almost 17,000 covid deaths globally in the last 24 hours.

If it continues at this rate, there will be more covid deaths in the first few months of 2021 than the whole of 2020.

Europe continues to be the worst-faring continent, with almost half the world's deaths over the 24 hour period; the US the worst-faring single country; Brazil and South Africa also struggling particularly badly. The trend is not looking good in Indonesia either.

Those lockdowns are going great

And it goes without saying, that without any lockdowns at all, the numbers would be far far worse. Just how successful lockdowns coupled with social distancing has been, is the absolute collapse in flu numbers.

No country that has tried a 'business as usual' approach has had anything other than disaster. Brazil being a textbook case study.

Do you have any actual data to support your claims?
Data that shows what the outcome would have definitely been like if instead of lockdowns other methods were used?

It seems you're jumping from "business as usual" to "lockdowns"
one extreme to the other.
Normally the solution is somewhere in the middle.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295168) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295166) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295163) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295102) said:
Yet another record daily death toll unfortunately, almost 17,000 covid deaths globally in the last 24 hours.

If it continues at this rate, there will be more covid deaths in the first few months of 2021 than the whole of 2020.

Europe continues to be the worst-faring continent, with almost half the world's deaths over the 24 hour period; the US the worst-faring single country; Brazil and South Africa also struggling particularly badly. The trend is not looking good in Indonesia either.

Those lockdowns are going great

And it goes without saying, that without any lockdowns at all, the numbers would be far far worse. Just how successful lockdowns coupled with social distancing has been, is the absolute collapse in flu numbers.

No country that has tried a 'business as usual' approach has had anything other than disaster. Brazil being a textbook case study.

Do you have any actual data to support your claims?
Data that shows what the outcome would have definitely been like if instead of lockdowns other methods were used?

It seems you're jumping from "business as usual" to "lockdowns"
one extreme to the other.
Normally the solution is somewhere in the middle.

Plenty of data, both health and economic. Every single country on earth that has tried an approach weaker than Australia, has had higher death tolls, higher infection rates, and worse economic contraction.
 
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads
 
@thedaboss said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295162) said:
Now is the time

To relocate the wall to aus and block off qld 😂😂


Western Australia has blocked the rest of us out and didn't even need a wall.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

The former being a response to the latter.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295163) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295102) said:
Yet another record daily death toll unfortunately, almost 17,000 covid deaths globally in the last 24 hours.

If it continues at this rate, there will be more covid deaths in the first few months of 2021 than the whole of 2020.

Europe continues to be the worst-faring continent, with almost half the world's deaths over the 24 hour period; the US the worst-faring single country; Brazil and South Africa also struggling particularly badly. The trend is not looking good in Indonesia either.

Those lockdowns are going great

I have asked numerous times, without an answer. If it wasn't the lockdown, what caused the case numbers in Victoria to drop the way they did after they lost control of the virus?
 
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.
 
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295220) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

Because we have a few people on here that are also blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist so they look to the US for support where there are more people who hold the same flawed belief.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295206) said:
Arnie as he gets his Covid vaccine jab. ‘Come with me if you want to live’. Classic

Thought he’d have gone with this line if he was appealing to the pro vaxx brigade

https://youtu.be/mAr0zgswpLQ
 
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295220) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here
 
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295269) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295220) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295271) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295269) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295220) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors
 
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295275) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295271) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295269) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295220) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors


I live on the northern sydney beaches and have done for 40 years,the difference in attitude and general behaviour was very different during the "avalon episode" than at any time during the previous 10 months.Stop lying
 
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295275) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295271) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295269) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295220) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295170) said:
Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors

I really don't like using this type of language, but what a dumb comment. There was 100+ people that tested positive for covid during the Avalon cluster, did you know any of these people? How can you claim people weren't sick? How do you know?
 
Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295285) said:
Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

So what do they think was the reason for the reduction in cases in Melbourne?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295286) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1295285) said:
Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

So what do they think was the reason for the reduction in cases in Melbourne?

The COVID virus realised Melbourne is a dump and took off .
 
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