Coronavirus Outbreak

[cochise]

The Nursing home in Penrith is a worry..Nurse was asymptomatic..went in to work.. now bang 6 staff and 6 residents in one day..

100 elderly residents ...thoughts are with them

It is such a tough call ...you don't want to let your team mates down and if you had readily available testing

Unless you have worked in these situations you don't realize how hard it is if they can't replace your shift on the other staff

Any essential staff should have tests readily available if they are faced with this situations

Testing for people in that field has been available for weeks!

I would have thought they would have been compulsory for people working with vulnerable people i.e. those in hospitals , nursing homes, group homes for disabled. I don't know if they are.

No they are not, my wife works in a hospital and they start social distancing practices well before they were introduced to the general public. Health care workers with symptoms were allowed to be tested about 2 weeks ago. Her hospital started temp testing on entry yesterday!

 

[Tiger5150]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon closed down borders to China, before us and I think were the first in the world to do so. They subsequently shut all other borders before us as well (Iran & Italy first).

Lockdowns & REstrictions are a state process and are enacted by the State Governors. Im not questioning the rest of your opinion of the guy, but in my experience, its more reliable to make judgement on his actions rather than his reported statements.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/17/instagram-posts/celebrities-are-sharing-misleading-post-about-trum/

 

[Tiger5150]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

 

[jadtiger]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is now claiming that the virus has passed its peak in the USA.Hopefully for all americans sake nobody believes him especially the governors who are locking down their states.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is now claiming that the virus has passed its peak in the USA.Hopefully for all americans sake nobody believes him especially the governors who are locking down their states.

Gotta get that economy up and running

 

[cochise]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is now claiming that the virus has passed its peak in the USA.Hopefully for all americans sake nobody believes him especially the governors who are locking down their states.

In fairness, this wave is flattening out in places like NY, it is whether they get sharp growth in other states that is the issue.

 

[mike]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is now claiming that the virus has passed its peak in the USA.Hopefully for all americans sake nobody believes him especially the governors who are locking down their states.

Gotta get that economy up and running

At all costs.

 

[jadtiger]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is now claiming that the virus has passed its peak in the USA.Hopefully for all americans sake nobody believes him especially the governors who are locking down their states.

In fairness, this wave is flattening out in places like NY, it is whether they get sharp growth in other states that is the issue.

Yes it is flattening in parts of america but that is not the same as "passed its peak",imo it would need to show a steady and continuing decline to claim "passed its peak".
If it goes pear shape Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will blame everyone else but starting with the media for actually quoting him

 

[cochise]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is now claiming that the virus has passed its peak in the USA.Hopefully for all americans sake nobody believes him especially the governors who are locking down their states.

In fairness, this wave is flattening out in places like NY, it is whether they get sharp growth in other states that is the issue.

Yes it is flattening in parts of america but that is not the same as "passed its peak",imo it would need to show a steady and continuing decline to claim "passed its peak".
If it goes pear shape Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will blame everyone else but starting with the media for actually quoting him

Agreed!

 

[cruzer]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

I agree, I'm not a fan of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but not all the blame can be put on him

Coronavirus cases skyrocket in South Dakota after governor dismisses quarantine measures
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-in-south-dakota-after-governor-dismisses-quarantine-measures/news-story/01f29b7e67e807875f39e2cbbaef42e4

 

[TrueTiger]

Like others that receive a Family Tax Benefit or other payment, I had the $750 first stimulus payment placed in my bank account and have spent it at a small retailer as my part in fulfilling the economy's need.

As to those that lost their jobs at the start of our shutdown or know others, just wondering if they have received any job seeker payments, or are you still having to wait?

Hey Bryce.Im still in the waiting que,its been 4 weeks since I had a pay packet and have been struggling the last week and a half,apparently on MyGov account an estimated date of payment is 19th April for me which happens to be Sunday...I don't think the office will be open but heres hoping it will be..

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

 

[cochise]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

 

[jadtiger]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

I agree, I'm not a fan of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but not all the blame can be put on him

Coronavirus cases skyrocket in South Dakota after governor dismisses quarantine measures
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-in-south-dakota-after-governor-dismisses-quarantine-measures/news-story/01f29b7e67e807875f39e2cbbaef42e4

According to that article there are still 5 states resisting lockdowns (all Republican of course),seriously how could you bury your head in the sand like that and risk the lives of your people.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

Perhaps an agency can make a decision based on advice provided to it by another agency/company which turns out to be erroneous.

 

[cochise]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

Perhaps an agency can make a decision based on advice provided to it by another agency/company which turns out to be erroneous.

NSW Health still made a critical misatake!

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

Perhaps an agency can make a decision based on advice provided to it by another agency/company which turns out to be erroneous.

NSW Health still made a critical misatake!

The decision is only as good as the advice provided to the decision makers.

 

[cochise]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

Perhaps an agency can make a decision based on advice provided to it by another agency/company which turns out to be erroneous.

NSW Health still made a critical misatake!

The decision is only as good as the advice provided to the decision makers.

Why was NSW Health testing swabs from passengers for Covid19?

 

[TrueTiger]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

Perhaps an agency can make a decision based on advice provided to it by another agency/company which turns out to be erroneous.

NSW Health still made a critical misatake!

The decision is only as good as the advice provided to the decision makers.

Why was NSW Health testing swabs from passengers for Covid19?

To tell you my honest opinion and what I deem should have been done cochise..is that the Ruby Princess captain and medical staff should have said to NSW health,we think there may be a serious problem developing onboard and can we wait until the final test results are in before we let people off the boat..
Ok everyone can say hindsight is a great thing,however when you have the public in your control then that becomes the ships main aim to make sure the safety of its passengers and crew are first and foremost...to blame just NSW health is an easy option and really is passing the buck to satisfy their own eagerness...this virus is an unprecedented occourance in our lifetime...I think rather than shifting blame and stroking egos people would be better off concentrating on getting us out of this situation as best as possible...'REMEMBER WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER'..laying blame on peoples erorrs and condemnation are only a sidetrack of the terrible situation we are in' solution my friends is better than condemnation'...and I know bugger all of this virus or anything medical at all...just my opinion ….

 

[Tiger5150]

The Bordermeister has put his head around the S bend to call out China.

Wasn't Detective Sergeant Dutton telling everyone letting a few refugees in for medical treatment would put such a strain on medical facilities such that there might not be enough beds for ordinary (read non boat type) citizens. On a moderated assessment the whole Ruby Princess affair has been a massive fail. Passengers saying no immigration or passport checks when they got off. Guess that was NSW Health.

You do realise more than one agency can have made mistakes in relation to this?

Perhaps an agency can make a decision based on advice provided to it by another agency/company which turns out to be erroneous.

NSW Health still made a critical misatake!

The decision is only as good as the advice provided to the decision makers.

Why was NSW Health testing swabs from passengers for Covid19?

To tell you my honest opinion and what I deem should have been done cochise..is that the Ruby Princess captain and medical staff should have said to NSW health,we think there may be a serious problem developing onboard and can we wait until the final test results are in before we let people off the boat..
Ok everyone can say hindsight is a great thing,however when you have the public in your control then that becomes the ships main aim to make sure the safety of its passengers and crew are first and foremost...to blame just NSW health is an easy option and really is passing the buck to satisfy their own eagerness...this virus is an unprecedented occourance in our lifetime...I think rather than shifting blame and stroking egos people would be better off concentrating on getting us out of this situation as best as possible...'REMEMBER WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER'..laying blame on peoples erorrs and condemnation are only a sidetrack of the terrible situation we are in' solution my friends is better than condemnation'...and I know bugger all of this virus or anything medical at all...just my opinion ….

Every plane or boat entering the country need to comply to federal border force regulations. They should not have been let off the boat. End of story. People entering the country or not is federal responsibility. NSW health should be involved and once they are off the boat it is there responsibility but bottom line is unless they needed hospitalisation they should not have been allowed off the boat