Coronavirus Outbreak

[tigger]

The Web can be a good thing and a very bad thing, most of these protesters are purely driven by what they see and read on the web, but every society wants to defend their rights of freedom and freedom of choice, but some of the information and choices people are making now were never so easily accessable before, and what these protesters have access to is, misinformation and conspiracy theories, if we are now talking about a national emergency, then, i think, The government/police shouldn't be waiting for the protests to happen and then violantly disassembling them,
And if we are in a national emergency Why aren't they dismantling the websites that is provoking them?
Because the result of this protest could mean much more people being infected and dying.

The protestors are a gathering of all the kids that sat at the back of the class and didn't pay attention.

Nup. Not all of them. I'm not there.

 

[tigger]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the "expert" was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.

Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states' eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.

 

[cochise]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the "expert" was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.

Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states' eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.

That is what the people deciding not to be vaccinated don't understand, they are not just risking their health, they are risking the health of everyone.

 

[earl]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

I don't believe this but I'm an optimist. The people dying are the the ones who aren't the sheep and have chosen very smartly not to vaccinate.

Reading about those protests has me in a mood so I'll say it. Let's give everyone the chance to vaccinate and then give the protestors their rights back. Let nature take it's course. Cull the stupid morons.

 

[hobbo1]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the "expert" was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.

Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states' eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.

That is what the people deciding not to be vaccinated don't understand, they are not just risking their health, they are risking the health of everyone.

I booked in boss ..
Aug 5

 

[mike]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vaccination, that is just out and out false.

 

[earl]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vacation, that is just out and out false.

I'm laughing really hard. How do you help these people. It's like Bill Gates. The guy is the greatest philanthropist the human race has ever produced. He is trying so hard to help us and he isn't as vain as people like Geoff Bezos.

It's hilarious. I'm astounded at how stupid some people are.

 

[TillLindemann]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the "expert" was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.

Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states' eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.

Definitely skewed towards the unvaccinated, but it is nowhere near exclusively. I think there is a tendency for a snobby attitude (not by you) to paint new patients as 'dumb rednecks' from places like Alabama, but it is not. In liberal, educated, wealthy California, with a majority of the population vaccinated, there was still 9,500 new cases and 46 new deaths in the last 24 hours alone (WAY more than Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana etc by the way) .

My point is that it would be much worse without vaccinations, but even in highly vaccinated populations this virus, especially the newer variants, is still a bugger of a health crisis. There's a perception that if we get vaccinations to a certain percentage then we can just open the borders up and go back to business as usual. That ain't happening, if we're serious.

 

[coivtny]

Not worried at all, is seen to have the same effect of a common flue....it is only killing those with a poor immune systems...so make sure your healthy folks

If you are not concerned you should be because like all viruses it will mutate.Hopefully it will not become like the spanish flu did after WW1 and become a pandemic killing millions of all ages before it mutated out of existence

Just re-read this post from JADTIGER on 26 January 2020. Mate, hats off. You knew what you were talking about.

 

[Nelson]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the "expert" was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.

Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states' eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.

Definitely skewed towards the unvaccinated, but it is nowhere near exclusively. I think there is a tendency for a snobby attitude (not by you) to paint new patients as 'dumb rednecks' from places like Alabama, but it is not. In liberal, educated, wealthy California, with a majority of the population vaccinated, there was still 9,500 new cases and 46 new deaths in the last 24 hours alone (WAY more than Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana etc by the way) .

My point is that it would be much worse without vaccinations, but even in highly vaccinated populations this virus, especially the newer variants, is still a bugger of a health crisis. There's a perception that if we get vaccinations to a certain percentage then we can just open the borders up and go back to business as usual. That ain't happening, if we're serious.

California has more than 9 times the population of any of those states, so you would expect it to have more cases and deaths.

 

[Nelson]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

What do you actually think he was trying to say? Do you interpret him as saying, at a bloody TED conference of all places, that "vaccination" should insidiously be used to wipe out 10-15% of the world's population? As though he is some kind of super villian?

 

[hobbo1]

Why can’t all the folks that line up for a test get needled up at the same time ?

 

[Geo]

Why can’t all the folks that line up for a test get needled up at the same time ?


 

[coivtny]

Why can’t all the folks that line up for a test get needled up at the same time ?

Actually not a bad idea.

 

[TillLindemann]

America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.

Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There's no going back to normal any time soon.

Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the "expert" was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.

Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states' eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.

Definitely skewed towards the unvaccinated, but it is nowhere near exclusively. I think there is a tendency for a snobby attitude (not by you) to paint new patients as 'dumb rednecks' from places like Alabama, but it is not. In liberal, educated, wealthy California, with a majority of the population vaccinated, there was still 9,500 new cases and 46 new deaths in the last 24 hours alone (WAY more than Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana etc by the way) .

My point is that it would be much worse without vaccinations, but even in highly vaccinated populations this virus, especially the newer variants, is still a bugger of a health crisis. There's a perception that if we get vaccinations to a certain percentage then we can just open the borders up and go back to business as usual. That ain't happening, if we're serious.

California has more than 9 times the population of any of those states, so you would expect it to have more cases and deaths.

And approx 9 times the infections and deaths, so proportionately just as affected.

My point is not to try and downplay the success of vaccines, they are a critical step, and I will be getting vaccinated myself as soon as I can. My point is vaccine alone are not a magic bullet, and we shouldn't pretend that everything will be like 2019 again once more people get shots.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vaccination, that is just out and out false.

You are free to interpret it your way, and other may interpret it differently!

 

[mike]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vaccination, that is just out and out false.

You are free to interpret it your way, and other may interpret it differently!

There is no interpretation needed. The Ted talk was clear as day. Stop making crap up.

 

[kratos]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vaccination, that is just out and out false.

 ))

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vaccination, that is just out and out false.

You are free to interpret it your way, and other may interpret it differently!

There is no interpretation needed. The Ted talk was clear as day. Stop making crap up.

I can say the same to you, but lets leave it at that we agree to disagree.

 

[mike]

So many people on here have anxiety issues
Death is part of living if your live in fear you don't live to your fullest potential let people make the choice if they want to self impose a lockdown on them self so be it and others sign a waiver that you can go about your normal life but if you get sick you don't get a bed Infront of people who have chosen to self isolate

It's the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination

How do you know what Bill Gates wants? That’s not what he said at all. Stop making crap up.


“ First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talk organized by TED, a non-profit organization devoted to spreading ideas. “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3”

Yes, meaning if we keep the population healthy and educated, there is less reason to reproduce. The population will stabilise.

It does not mean we are going to use vaccinations to cull the population. Again he never said he wants to control the population through vaccination, that is just out and out false.

 ))

He never said it. Again stop making crap up.