Coronavirus Outbreak

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”

Well those parenta r a chip short of a big mac meal arent they

Don’t be like that tough guy. They are just concerned parents.

 

[earl]

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever.

If you are being locked up. I have 2 friends who own gyms and they have told me they aren't checking vaccination status or minimizing class size. Plus one is unvaccinated.

Anyway you will be allowed to do everything soon even though in my opinion you've done the wrong thing by society and yourself.

it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around. Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Nonsense. The proof is so clear cut now. Look at how well we've handled the outbreak and it's due to the massive uptake of the vaccine.

@Earl i comply by the rules mate. Big fines if you get caught breaching the health orders. I have a home gym mate, so don’t need to venture out.

I hope my mates don't get caught. Not everyone is complying.

 

[earl]

Don’t be like that tough guy. They are just concerned parents.

This isn't really true. It's a fringe belief that flies in the face of the facts.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever.

If you are being locked up. I have 2 friends who own gyms and they have told me they aren't checking vaccination status or minimizing class size. Plus one is unvaccinated.

Anyway you will be allowed to do everything soon even though in my opinion you've done the wrong thing by society and yourself.

it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around. Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Nonsense. The proof is so clear cut now. Look at how well we've handled the outbreak and it's due to the massive uptake of the vaccine.

@Earl i comply by the rules mate. Big fines if you get caught breaching the health orders. I have a home gym mate, so don’t need to venture out.

I hope my mates don't get caught. Not everyone is complying.

People aren’t even checking in at the local supermarket with no one checking. We might as well open up for everyone

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”

Well those parenta r a chip short of a big mac meal arent they

Don’t be like that tough guy. They are just concerned parents.

Actually I work in education in a role supporting parents across multiple schools are most of the calls I field are from parents who want their children vaccinated. Yes there are some who are against but they are the minority in my experience.

I don’t think we’ll go down a force vaccination for kids route as the health advice is that it isn’t necessary. They will open it up to children due to media and community pressure

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Don’t be like that tough guy. They are just concerned parents.

This isn't really true. It's a fringe belief that flies in the face of the facts.

The kids don’t need the vaccine @Earl They’re bodies aren’t compromised enough to have issues fighting off COVID

 

[jadtiger]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”

I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

 

[innsaneink]

One hell of a con job if all.the deaths are car crash victims and old age
Very clever 🤔

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

 

[earl]

Don’t be like that tough guy. They are just concerned parents.

This isn't really true. It's a fringe belief that flies in the face of the facts.

The kids don’t need the vaccine @Earl They’re bodies aren’t compromised enough to have issues fighting off COVID

Mate it has nothing to do with their body not being compromised enough. COVID just doesn't affect kids as much. If you get chicken pox young typically it's just a mild illness but if you get it older it can be horrendous.

I have 3 kids - 11, 18 and 20. The two oldest are fully vaccinated. The 11 yo isn't and I don't care but my wife really wants him vaccinated.

 

[earl]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever.

If you are being locked up. I have 2 friends who own gyms and they have told me they aren't checking vaccination status or minimizing class size. Plus one is unvaccinated.

Anyway you will be allowed to do everything soon even though in my opinion you've done the wrong thing by society and yourself.

it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around. Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Nonsense. The proof is so clear cut now. Look at how well we've handled the outbreak and it's due to the massive uptake of the vaccine.

@Earl i comply by the rules mate. Big fines if you get caught breaching the health orders. I have a home gym mate, so don’t need to venture out.

I hope my mates don't get caught. Not everyone is complying.

People aren’t even checking in at the local supermarket with no one checking. We might as well open up for everyone

Uhhh dont be to sure

Every woolworths ive been to they have checked

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever.

If you are being locked up. I have 2 friends who own gyms and they have told me they aren't checking vaccination status or minimizing class size. Plus one is unvaccinated.

Anyway you will be allowed to do everything soon even though in my opinion you've done the wrong thing by society and yourself.

it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around. Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Nonsense. The proof is so clear cut now. Look at how well we've handled the outbreak and it's due to the massive uptake of the vaccine.

@Earl i comply by the rules mate. Big fines if you get caught breaching the health orders. I have a home gym mate, so don’t need to venture out.

I hope my mates don't get caught. Not everyone is complying.

People aren’t even checking in at the local supermarket with no one checking. We might as well open up for everyone

Uhhh dont be to sure

Every woolworths ive been to they have checked

Not we’re I am mate.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

It’s amazing the views of people based on were they live in Sydney. I bet even cultural backgrounds affect the views of people. Amazing

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

It’s amazing the views of people based on were they live in Sydney. I bet even cultural backgrounds affect the views of people. Amazing

@Earl what are your views with respect to COVID vaccine and kids with ASD? Just asking mate, as you make a lot of valid points which I respect.

 

[Tiger5150]

Is the booster shot mandatory?

For the majority not yet, but I think it’s a safe bet that sometime in the future it will be.

I don't think that is the plan.

@cochise if you catch COVID and beat it, NSW Health give you a 6 month exemption from getting the vaccine in writing. Does that mean then the vaccinated will have to get boosters every 6 months? Is getting COVID and having a natural immunity better than the vaccine and boosters?

The difference is negligible but getting vaccinated is better in reducing risk of death or long term illness… Better to think of a booster as the third dose. When the vaccine was originally released for emergency use we weren’t sure what dosage would be needed as it was too early to tell. Turns out we need 3 and in it is hoped that will be all that is needed for long term immunity. There are other vaccinations that require 3 doses which we receive in childhood (I think hep?). Most require 2. Covid needs 3.

For now. We don’t know if COVID will mutate again and evade the vaccines. Then we start again?

So let's not bother?

@cochise isn’t that what happens though? the virus mutates, the vaccines may become in effective and back to the drawing board. The only defence we have then is our immune system

It works like this but it's not that bad. The flu requires a new vaccine every year. It's basically has an expiry date of a year. The COVID vaccines that are working so well are the same vaccine against Delta as against whatever strain they developed the vaccines under.

My take is that you are also making immunity too simplistic. A better way to think of it is being vaccinated is going to provide you better protection. I don't understand the down side. You have no immunity until you catch it or you are vaccinated. Then you develop immunity. Why not take the vaccine and be safer.

@Earl you make some great points. However, I’m a bit old school and unscientific. There is also a religious aspect to my beliefs. I will always
back my body to fight any virus rather than put something artificial
In it that we don’t know the long term impacts of.

Yeah, who cares about the vulnerable. You must be really old school, we have been using vaccines since 1796.

@cochise i don’t feel this vaccine is safe in the long run mate. Has nothing to do with not caring about the vulnerable. If you knew me
On a personal level, you wouldn’t be so quick to judge me as that type
of person.

I don't think any vaccines have had any negative effects 8 weeks post getting vaccinated. I'm not trying to be slack but there is no rational reason to think the COVID vaccine isn't safe.

As a side point I'll mention who the vulnerable are. My dad is a retired doctor and he told me it was typically people having chemotherapy.

I'll also add I don't think at the vaccine levels we have now that the unvaccinated are a big risk to the rest of society. They've typically free loaded into a much better situation. I think the main risk is too themselves.

I’ll correct you @Earl. The unvaxed have not free loaded, as we all have been subject to the same restrictions of which the unvaxed are now losing there jobs and still restricted in there movements. So to say freeloaded is not right

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax....hello doc I have had a history of blood clotting and I prefer to take my chances on something not much worse than a common flu...

I know most will get all huffy about what I said....go do some research and you will find out just what a fear mongering scare this crap was for the sake of big pharma,faucci and gates...
I will even go as far as saying the PCR tests are giving more false positives than neg and nearly all deaths in hospitals are put down to covid ...even old age ,heart attacks and car accidents..

Have a great xmas guys stay safe and bring on 2022 season....

I will leave you with what our Lord Jesus Christ said on the cross before he was lanced...

""Forgive them Father for they know not what they do"


thats for the Govt,you know the people who are supposed to look after us as they work for us...not oppress or divide us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever. ***it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around.*** Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Sorry to spoil your story with some facts. It is overwhelmingly unvaxxed people suffering at the moment.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211108_01.aspx

 

[Tiger5150]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

To minimize school closures would have to be the worst reason I have ever heard to advocate vaccinating kids.

To minimise deaths and harm would be the right reason and it simply doesnt happen to young kids.

In the US approxiamtely 50% of the kids have caught COVID, that is approximately around 50M cases. 20 healthy (no serious pre-existing health issues) kids have died. Kids are incredibly resilient to COVID and it makes no sense to vaccinate them.

 

[Tiger5150]

Don’t be like that tough guy. They are just concerned parents.

This isn't really true. It's a fringe belief that flies in the face of the facts.

What is?

 

[Pascoes_barber]

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax...us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Good news for your co-workers.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Is the booster shot mandatory?

For the majority not yet, but I think it’s a safe bet that sometime in the future it will be.

I don't think that is the plan.

@cochise if you catch COVID and beat it, NSW Health give you a 6 month exemption from getting the vaccine in writing. Does that mean then the vaccinated will have to get boosters every 6 months? Is getting COVID and having a natural immunity better than the vaccine and boosters?

The difference is negligible but getting vaccinated is better in reducing risk of death or long term illness… Better to think of a booster as the third dose. When the vaccine was originally released for emergency use we weren’t sure what dosage would be needed as it was too early to tell. Turns out we need 3 and in it is hoped that will be all that is needed for long term immunity. There are other vaccinations that require 3 doses which we receive in childhood (I think hep?). Most require 2. Covid needs 3.

For now. We don’t know if COVID will mutate again and evade the vaccines. Then we start again?

So let's not bother?

@cochise isn’t that what happens though? the virus mutates, the vaccines may become in effective and back to the drawing board. The only defence we have then is our immune system

It works like this but it's not that bad. The flu requires a new vaccine every year. It's basically has an expiry date of a year. The COVID vaccines that are working so well are the same vaccine against Delta as against whatever strain they developed the vaccines under.

My take is that you are also making immunity too simplistic. A better way to think of it is being vaccinated is going to provide you better protection. I don't understand the down side. You have no immunity until you catch it or you are vaccinated. Then you develop immunity. Why not take the vaccine and be safer.

@Earl you make some great points. However, I’m a bit old school and unscientific. There is also a religious aspect to my beliefs. I will always
back my body to fight any virus rather than put something artificial
In it that we don’t know the long term impacts of.

Yeah, who cares about the vulnerable. You must be really old school, we have been using vaccines since 1796.

@cochise i don’t feel this vaccine is safe in the long run mate. Has nothing to do with not caring about the vulnerable. If you knew me
On a personal level, you wouldn’t be so quick to judge me as that type
of person.

I don't think any vaccines have had any negative effects 8 weeks post getting vaccinated. I'm not trying to be slack but there is no rational reason to think the COVID vaccine isn't safe.

As a side point I'll mention who the vulnerable are. My dad is a retired doctor and he told me it was typically people having chemotherapy.

I'll also add I don't think at the vaccine levels we have now that the unvaccinated are a big risk to the rest of society. They've typically free loaded into a much better situation. I think the main risk is too themselves.

I’ll correct you @Earl. The unvaxed have not free loaded, as we all have been subject to the same restrictions of which the unvaxed are now losing there jobs and still restricted in there movements. So to say freeloaded is not right

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax....hello doc I have had a history of blood clotting and I prefer to take my chances on something not much worse than a common flu...

I know most will get all huffy about what I said....go do some research and you will find out just what a fear mongering scare this crap was for the sake of big pharma,faucci and gates...
I will even go as far as saying the PCR tests are giving more false positives than neg and nearly all deaths in hospitals are put down to covid ...even old age ,heart attacks and car accidents..

Have a great xmas guys stay safe and bring on 2022 season....

I will leave you with what our Lord Jesus Christ said on the cross before he was lanced...

""Forgive them Father for they know not what they do"


thats for the Govt,you know the people who are supposed to look after us as they work for us...not oppress or divide us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever. ***it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around.*** Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Sorry to spoil your story with some facts. It is overwhelmingly unvaxxed people suffering at the moment.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211108_01.aspx

Is the booster shot mandatory?

For the majority not yet, but I think it’s a safe bet that sometime in the future it will be.

I don't think that is the plan.

@cochise if you catch COVID and beat it, NSW Health give you a 6 month exemption from getting the vaccine in writing. Does that mean then the vaccinated will have to get boosters every 6 months? Is getting COVID and having a natural immunity better than the vaccine and boosters?

The difference is negligible but getting vaccinated is better in reducing risk of death or long term illness… Better to think of a booster as the third dose. When the vaccine was originally released for emergency use we weren’t sure what dosage would be needed as it was too early to tell. Turns out we need 3 and in it is hoped that will be all that is needed for long term immunity. There are other vaccinations that require 3 doses which we receive in childhood (I think hep?). Most require 2. Covid needs 3.

For now. We don’t know if COVID will mutate again and evade the vaccines. Then we start again?

So let's not bother?

@cochise isn’t that what happens though? the virus mutates, the vaccines may become in effective and back to the drawing board. The only defence we have then is our immune system

It works like this but it's not that bad. The flu requires a new vaccine every year. It's basically has an expiry date of a year. The COVID vaccines that are working so well are the same vaccine against Delta as against whatever strain they developed the vaccines under.

My take is that you are also making immunity too simplistic. A better way to think of it is being vaccinated is going to provide you better protection. I don't understand the down side. You have no immunity until you catch it or you are vaccinated. Then you develop immunity. Why not take the vaccine and be safer.

@Earl you make some great points. However, I’m a bit old school and unscientific. There is also a religious aspect to my beliefs. I will always
back my body to fight any virus rather than put something artificial
In it that we don’t know the long term impacts of.

Yeah, who cares about the vulnerable. You must be really old school, we have been using vaccines since 1796.

@cochise i don’t feel this vaccine is safe in the long run mate. Has nothing to do with not caring about the vulnerable. If you knew me
On a personal level, you wouldn’t be so quick to judge me as that type
of person.

I don't think any vaccines have had any negative effects 8 weeks post getting vaccinated. I'm not trying to be slack but there is no rational reason to think the COVID vaccine isn't safe.

As a side point I'll mention who the vulnerable are. My dad is a retired doctor and he told me it was typically people having chemotherapy.

I'll also add I don't think at the vaccine levels we have now that the unvaccinated are a big risk to the rest of society. They've typically free loaded into a much better situation. I think the main risk is too themselves.

I’ll correct you @Earl. The unvaxed have not free loaded, as we all have been subject to the same restrictions of which the unvaxed are now losing there jobs and still restricted in there movements. So to say freeloaded is not right

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax....hello doc I have had a history of blood clotting and I prefer to take my chances on something not much worse than a common flu...

I know most will get all huffy about what I said....go do some research and you will find out just what a fear mongering scare this crap was for the sake of big pharma,faucci and gates...
I will even go as far as saying the PCR tests are giving more false positives than neg and nearly all deaths in hospitals are put down to covid ...even old age ,heart attacks and car accidents..

Have a great xmas guys stay safe and bring on 2022 season....

I will leave you with what our Lord Jesus Christ said on the cross before he was lanced...

""Forgive them Father for they know not what they do"


thats for the Govt,you know the people who are supposed to look after us as they work for us...not oppress or divide us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever. ***it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around.*** Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Sorry to spoil your story with some facts. It is overwhelmingly unvaxxed people suffering at the moment.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211108_01.aspx

Lol have you ever worked for the government? If you have you would know that the government lies with the best of them