Cricket Season Thread

@Cultured Bogan said:
I still maintain it's poor policy to promote Wade for Nevill. Sure Wade is a decent bat but his hands let him down big time. No point in your keeper being able to score 50 runs when he drops half a dozen chances.

It's not like Wade's form with the bat has been all that impressive lately either. In fact he's averaging less in Shield than Nevill is in the Test series.
 
Rep players shall play every Sheffield Shield game, unfortunately, the opposite is true, the rep players play many more useless 20/20's :crazy
Because of that, it is not a surprise that we have too many slashers, who are too impatient and think they have to score at least 4 from every ball (not every player can be Warner, Hayden or Gillchrist) , very few batsman have sound defensive technique and temperament to play the game properly.
IMHO, Madinsson is a perfect example, he can score on his day 100 in no time, but his average is too low for a rep player.
O'Keefe would be a good substitution for Lyons, as he is in great form, very economical and takes wickets frequently .
 
@Sabre said:
@happy tiger said:
@Sabre said:
@supercoach said:
Would have gone for Patterson before Madison and maybe Tremain the Victorian quick before Bird. Also must be a better spin option than Lyons

Definitely.
I think Maddinson is a more talented batsman than Patterson, but Patterson plays the style we need. He can protect his wicket and doesn't mind a slower strike rate. Maddinson will come out and try and hit the first ball out of the ground.

Is it true your 13th man Sabre ??

Only if you're 14th man

Nah mate saving myself for IPL 20/20 , the only true form of the game

Test cricket is dead
 
@happy tiger said:
@Sabre said:
@happy tiger said:
@Sabre said:
Definitely.
I think Maddinson is a more talented batsman than Patterson, but Patterson plays the style we need. He can protect his wicket and doesn't mind a slower strike rate. Maddinson will come out and try and hit the first ball out of the ground.

Is it true your 13th man Sabre ??

Only if you're 14th man

Nah mate saving myself for IPL 20/20 , the only true form of the game

Test cricket is dead

Too bad Aus isn't much good at 20/20 either lol
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Lyon is going the way of Swann. Had a purple patch and things are leaning out for him now.

Problem is I don't think there's anyone better at the moment. Can we bring Pup back as a spinner?

Exactly CB , no one is better than Lyon in this country

If Mark Waugh was still playing he'd easily be our best offie

But spinners need runs to play with , the batsmen need to produce far more

I think Steve Smith underbowls himself personally , I'd like him give himself a few overs when we are struggling to break a partnership
 
A spinner like Stewie McGill had a four ball in him most overs but he also had a brute of a ball most overs, Lyons seems to have the four ball also but very very few brute of a balls. Okay very hard to compare a offie with a leggie but even with a ton of runs behind him Lyons seldom bowls the team to a win or builds the pressure for the bowlers at the other end.

Of course the problem is….who else do we have that can do a job
 
MacGill was just as good a tactical bowler as Warne.

Leggies invariably get hit, even good balls get punished with the amount of flight and the length they're put on.
 
I heard one of the reasons Wade is back in the side is due to him being more prone to sledge. That's surely a gee up?
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I heard one of the reasons Wade is back in the side is due to him being more prone to sledge. That's surely a gee up?

Ian Healy was a better sledger , would still be a better keeper and probably better batsmen

Can you imagine it ….. Wade says something smart to Faf about the ball tampering , Faf replies to look at the scoreboard

Australia rolled for 130 in the first dig and the Saffas are 3-350

Wade shuts his gob , especially after his first ball duck 😱pen_mouth:
 
@supercoach said:
@Sabre said:
Official:

Steve Smith ©, David Warner (vc), Jackson Bird, Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Usman Khawaja, Nic Maddinson, Nathan Lyon, Matt Renshaw, Chadd Sayers, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade

Would have gone for Patterson before Madison and maybe Tremain the Victorian quick before Bird. Also must be a better spin option than Lyons

Zappa, Head, Agar
 
@WestsBenTigers said:
@supercoach said:
@Sabre said:
Official:

Steve Smith ©, David Warner (vc), Jackson Bird, Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Usman Khawaja, Nic Maddinson, Nathan Lyon, Matt Renshaw, Chadd Sayers, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade

Would have gone for Patterson before Madison and maybe Tremain the Victorian quick before Bird. Also must be a better spin option than Lyons

Zappa, Head, Agar

None of them are better than Lyon. They all average over 40 in FC, and Head is a part timer. You may as well bowl Warner or Smith.
 
lyon deserves a chance- but he has to get wickets.

they contnually say that lyon is our most successful off spin bowler- always thought ashley mallet was.
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zampa has to be next cab off the rank - has variety and the south africans didnt like his bowling in the recent one dayers at home.
 
@eyewonder said:
lyon deserves a chance- but he has to get wickets.

they contnually say that lyon is our most successful off spin bowler- always thought ashley mallet was.
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zampa has to be next cab off the rank - has variety and the south africans didnt like his bowling in the recent one dayers at home.

He has taken more wickets than any other off spin bowlers in Australia

Yet if you compared him to the best off spinners from any other country ie Jim Laker , Lance Gibbs , Murali , Underwood ,Bishen Bedi etc he gets well and truly owned :laughing:
 
Having watched Faf's presso I think he still misses the point

He is saying that you will still have sugar in your saliva because of the amount of gum ,sugary drinks etc they have

Lot different when you are directly applying a substance to the ball itself in my opinion

He is probably right , many are doing it

Funny how reverse swing was almost unheard of until the late 80's …....
 
@happy tiger said:
Having watched Faf's presso I think he still misses the point

He is saying that you will still have sugar in your saliva because of the amount of gum ,sugary drinks etc they have

Lot different when you are directly applying a substance to the ball itself in my opinion

He is probably right , many are doing it

Funny how reverse swing was almost unheard of until the late 80's …....

I've said this elsewhere, but ball tampering goes on at all levels of cricket. I don't mind if teams do it covertly but if they get caught they will have to face the consequences because it is against the rules.

It's not as though if Faf didn't do it we'd have won the match, at best we may had forced the Jaapies into a second innings with the bat.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@happy tiger said:
Having watched Faf's presso I think he still misses the point

He is saying that you will still have sugar in your saliva because of the amount of gum ,sugary drinks etc they have

Lot different when you are directly applying a substance to the ball itself in my opinion

He is probably right , many are doing it

Funny how reverse swing was almost unheard of until the late 80's …....

I've said this elsewhere, but ball tampering goes on at all levels of cricket. I don't mind if teams do it covertly but if they get caught they will have to face the consequences because it is against the rules.

It's not as though if Faf didn't do it we'd have won the match, at best we may had forced the Jaapies into a second innings with the bat.

Thoughts on reverse swing CB ??

Surely some of the great quick swing bowlers we had before the mid 80's would have stumbled on it …....

Ball tampering starts and then reverse swing starts .... coincidence not likely
 
You can keep one side of the ball in good nick, let the other deteriorate and you'll be able to get the ball to swing. Sure, ball tampering aids the magnitude of the swing but in fortunate conditions (i.e. natural roughing of one side over the other,) you can still achieve reverse swing without having to dick around with the cherry.
 
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