Cricket Season

@alien said:
@stryker said:
It was that bloke in the t20 world cup who hit 6 sixes off one over…Gambhir??

:astonished:

Who was the bowler? :laughing:

Chris Broad….

Awesome Aussies.....clean sweep....

Congrats to to Watson AB medalist....well deserved....

Wonder what SuntanSm thinks of you now......
 
3 Months of solid form vs 7 years of unabashed failure, SunTanSuperman still isn't convinced.

Pretty amazing though, must be the 1st time someone won the AB medal for 1 test hundred.
 
Suntan clearly doesnt watch any of the games….just hears the results and makes his own conclusions up.

Anyone who did see a fair bit of the action over the past year would agree that Watto's efforts were head and shoulders above the performances of the rest of the squad.
 
I know this is drifting a little away from the Australian cricket summer, but it's cricket none the less. In the 2nd ODI between India and South Africa, Sachin Tendulkar just scored the first ever ODI double century, finishing with an unbeaten 200 off 147 deliveries.

:master: :master: SACHIN!
 
@stryker said:
Suntan clearly doesnt watch any of the games….just hears the results and makes his own conclusions up.

Anyone who did see a fair bit of the action over the past year would agree that Watto's efforts were head and shoulders above the performances of the rest of the squad.

I'll leave the ill informed opinions to you, champ.

You can forgive me for not gushing over this guys performances, because it's the first time in a now 9 year international career that he hasn't been useless, but lets be realistic about it. He is a test opener who in 9 tests has one century. All these plaudits about being our best player because he finally isn't being awful are way over the top.

The thing about Watson is that he bats the same way in Test, ODI and T20 cricket. He has yet to prove he can tough it out and bat a day and a half if needed, he has yet to face an attack that has it's stuff together and he still has a very big technical flaw in regard to LBW.

Alot, and I do mean ALOT of players have had to make way for this guy to be shoehorned into the side over the years, so really in the scheme of things, he is doing the bare minimum in regards to the treatment and favouritism he has been shown. I'm yet to be convinced.

And yes I just checked it. He is the first batsman to win the AB medal for only a single test hundred. WOW!
 
I am becoming increasingly interested in international cricket at the lower levels. There is a second tier of 6 teams playing a series of 4 day matches called the intercontinental cup. Each match earns points like in the sheffield shield, so all the games count towards the final result.

Then there is the world cricket league with 8 different divisions. They play tournaments all over the world with teams promoted and relegated after each tournament. It is fascinating how teams can go from the lowest level all the way to the world cup in the space of a few years if they are good enough. Afghanistan went from division 5 to within a whisker of qualifying for next year's world cup.

Sure, I don't get to see the games on tv or in person, but it is fascinating to follow teams' fortunes over the internet. If only rugby league got their international games in order and did something similar…
 
That was a bit of a hammering the Australians dished out last night in the 20-20 match in Wellington, and that was despite several dropped catches.
 
@TheSunTanSuperman said:
@stryker said:
Suntan clearly doesnt watch any of the games….just hears the results and makes his own conclusions up.

Anyone who did see a fair bit of the action over the past year would agree that Watto's efforts were head and shoulders above the performances of the rest of the squad.

I'll leave the ill informed opinions to you, champ.

You can forgive me for not gushing over this guys performances, because it's the first time in a now 9 year international career that he hasn't been useless, but lets be realistic about it. He is a test opener who in 9 tests has one century. All these plaudits about being our best player because he finally isn't being awful are way over the top.

The thing about Watson is that he bats the same way in Test, ODI and T20 cricket. He has yet to prove he can tough it out and bat a day and a half if needed, he has yet to face an attack that has it's stuff together and he still has a very big technical flaw in regard to LBW.

Alot, and I do mean ALOT of players have had to make way for this guy to be shoehorned into the side over the years, so really in the scheme of things, he is doing the bare minimum in regards to the treatment and favouritism he has been shown. I'm yet to be convinced.

And yes I just checked it. He is the first batsman to win the AB medal for only a single test hundred. WOW!

I think you're in denial SunTan.
Sehwag bats the same in odis and Tests, so did Gilly.

He may of copped some favouritism, but thats because of the potential that everyone saw in him that is starting to show now, you look at his first class stats, he averages around 45 with the bat (More then North and Clarke) and 30 odd with the ball, so you cant really say he didnt earn his spot.

And what about the wickets in all forms of the game, the slips catches, the match winning 100s in the semis and final of the champions trophy and another 2 odi 100s earlier in the year?

Every batsman has technical floors, Katich playing away from his body, Hughes with the short ones, Ponting with his front foot getting in the way of his bat (And recently the short ball), Hussey with his off stump, Clarke half pushing at deliveries outside off stump, and North with the ball at the body and the full wide deliveries, etc. I know Watson has had probs with LBW in the past but id like to know how often Watson has been dismissed LBW this Summer, because I dont think it has been many

And he may of been the first 'batsmen' to win the AB medal, but he is also the first 'Allrounder' to win it too!
 
Oh Yeah…...what about that 20/20 the other night....I Love the Kiwi's....

Best game in that format Ive seen...deserved a tie

Super over is Crap.......
 
@Geo. said:
Oh Yeah…...what about that 20/20 the other night....I Love the Kiwi's....

Best game in that format Ive seen...deserved a tie

Super over is Crap.......

We had to lose eventually. When is the next game?
 
@Geo. said:
Oh Yeah…...what about that 20/20 the other night....I Love the Kiwi's....

Best game in that format Ive seen...deserved a tie

Super over is Crap.......

Yeah the Superover gives it a bit of a hollow ending.

Why not just have a tie?

Tie's are very rare and so they would be better remembered, plus a teams fortunes shouldnt come down to one person (The bowler).

But dont worry, once India lose a Superover match to Pakistan at some stage it'll change :smiley: :smiley:
 
The shorter they make a game, the more chance there will be a tie.

In 1953 test matches over 133 years there have been 2 ties (0.1%).
In 2966 ODI matches over 39 years there have been 23 ties (0.8%).
In 150 T20 matches over 5 years there have been 5 ties (3.3%).

I'm perfectly comfortable with a tie in most cases. It is a result, just like a win, loss or draw. Can you imagine them having a super over after Australia tied with India in that test back in 1986? Of course, if it was a world cup final, one team must eventually win.

And at least the super over is better than that stupid one with the bowlers trying to hit the stumps with no batsman. Cricket is about the battle between bat and ball. Taking the batsman out of the equation made it the equivalent of 10 pin bowling!
 
@alien said:
@Geo. said:
Oh Yeah…...what about that 20/20 the other night....I Love the Kiwi's....

Best game in that format Ive seen...deserved a tie

Super over is Crap.......

We had to lose eventually. When is the next game?

Do you ever look anything up…....... :brick:

ODI series start's today.......Fox Sports 2 I believe

BTW ...just in case the NRL season kick off on the 12th of March...Wests Tigers play on the 15th SFS....get there early :sign:
 
@Geo. said:
Do you ever look anything up…....... :brick:

ODI series start's today.......Fox Sports 2 I believe

BTW ...just in case the NRL season kick off on the 12th of March...Wests Tigers play on the 15th SFS....get there early :sign:

Am I giving you a headache Geo? :laughing:
 
@Jazza said:
@TheSunTanSuperman said:
@stryker said:
Suntan clearly doesnt watch any of the games….just hears the results and makes his own conclusions up.

Anyone who did see a fair bit of the action over the past year would agree that Watto's efforts were head and shoulders above the performances of the rest of the squad.

I'll leave the ill informed opinions to you, champ.

You can forgive me for not gushing over this guys performances, because it's the first time in a now 9 year international career that he hasn't been useless, but lets be realistic about it. He is a test opener who in 9 tests has one century. All these plaudits about being our best player because he finally isn't being awful are way over the top.

The thing about Watson is that he bats the same way in Test, ODI and T20 cricket. He has yet to prove he can tough it out and bat a day and a half if needed, he has yet to face an attack that has it's stuff together and he still has a very big technical flaw in regard to LBW.

Alot, and I do mean ALOT of players have had to make way for this guy to be shoehorned into the side over the years, so really in the scheme of things, he is doing the bare minimum in regards to the treatment and favouritism he has been shown. I'm yet to be convinced.

And yes I just checked it. He is the first batsman to win the AB medal for only a single test hundred. WOW!

I think you're in denial SunTan.
Sehwag bats the same in odis and Tests, so did Gilly.

He may of copped some favouritism, but thats because of the potential that everyone saw in him that is starting to show now, you look at his first class stats, he averages around 45 with the bat (More then North and Clarke) and 30 odd with the ball, so you cant really say he didnt earn his spot.

And what about the wickets in all forms of the game, the slips catches, the match winning 100s in the semis and final of the champions trophy and another 2 odi 100s earlier in the year?

Every batsman has technical floors, Katich playing away from his body, Hughes with the short ones, Ponting with his front foot getting in the way of his bat (And recently the short ball), Hussey with his off stump, Clarke half pushing at deliveries outside off stump, and North with the ball at the body and the full wide deliveries, etc. I know Watson has had probs with LBW in the past but id like to know how often Watson has been dismissed LBW this Summer, because I dont think it has been many

And he may of been the first 'batsmen' to win the AB medal, but he is also the first 'Allrounder' to win it too!

Sehwag and Gilchrist are/were hundred makers, Watson isn't.

Unlike those other batsmen and their flaws, they have proven themselves in pretty much all environments. Watson has yet to prove he can bat against anything other than short and wide pitched crap.

If you think the last 3 months of solid, cosistent form makes up for the previous 7 years of inept failure, then good luck to you. I'll just wait and see if he can perform against sides that aren't completely stuffed before I hail his arrival.
 
Watson was always going to come good. It was all his injuries that were holding him back before.
 
@TheSunTanSuperman said:
@alien said:
Watson was always going to come good. It was all his injuries that were holding him back before.

Yeah, OK.

You know it makes sense.

Alot of people could see Watson was talented and had alot of potential. I knew he would prove his doubters wrong if he stopped getting injured all the time and that is exactly what he has done.
 
@TheSunTanSuperman said:
@Jazza said:
@TheSunTanSuperman said:
I'll leave the ill informed opinions to you, champ.

You can forgive me for not gushing over this guys performances, because it's the first time in a now 9 year international career that he hasn't been useless, but lets be realistic about it. He is a test opener who in 9 tests has one century. All these plaudits about being our best player because he finally isn't being awful are way over the top.

The thing about Watson is that he bats the same way in Test, ODI and T20 cricket. He has yet to prove he can tough it out and bat a day and a half if needed, he has yet to face an attack that has it's stuff together and he still has a very big technical flaw in regard to LBW.

Alot, and I do mean ALOT of players have had to make way for this guy to be shoehorned into the side over the years, so really in the scheme of things, he is doing the bare minimum in regards to the treatment and favouritism he has been shown. I'm yet to be convinced.

And yes I just checked it. He is the first batsman to win the AB medal for only a single test hundred. WOW!

I think you're in denial SunTan.
Sehwag bats the same in odis and Tests, so did Gilly.

He may of copped some favouritism, but thats because of the potential that everyone saw in him that is starting to show now, you look at his first class stats, he averages around 45 with the bat (More then North and Clarke) and 30 odd with the ball, so you cant really say he didnt earn his spot.

And what about the wickets in all forms of the game, the slips catches, the match winning 100s in the semis and final of the champions trophy and another 2 odi 100s earlier in the year?

Every batsman has technical floors, Katich playing away from his body, Hughes with the short ones, Ponting with his front foot getting in the way of his bat (And recently the short ball), Hussey with his off stump, Clarke half pushing at deliveries outside off stump, and North with the ball at the body and the full wide deliveries, etc. I know Watson has had probs with LBW in the past but id like to know how often Watson has been dismissed LBW this Summer, because I dont think it has been many

And he may of been the first 'batsmen' to win the AB medal, but he is also the first 'Allrounder' to win it too!

Sehwag and Gilchrist are/were hundred makers, Watson isn't.

Unlike those other batsmen and their flaws, they have proven themselves in pretty much all environments. Watson has yet to prove he can bat against anything other than short and wide pitched crap.

If you think the last 3 months of solid, consistent form makes up for the previous 7 years of inept failure, then good luck to you. I'll just wait and see if he can perform against sides that aren't completely stuffed before I hail his arrival.

I agree he may not of proven himself at Test level in all conditions yet but he has done a hell of a lot more then the other more seasoned batsman in the lineup the past year or so.
And he has scored one day 100s in different environments (West Indies, UAE, and South Africa twice).

And if you look at his stats at this stage compared to some other players, he's certainly around the mark to keep going, you gotta remember he takes wickets as well, I think sometimes people forget that.

Watson after 19 tests:
1 hundred
8 fifties
Avg: 39.50

Ponting after 19 tests:
2 Hundreds
7 fifties
Avg: 40.06

Langer after 19 tests:
2 Hundreds
7 fifties
Avg: 32.25

Katich after 19 tests:
2 Hundreds
7 fifties
Avg: 39.75

You cant deny the guy is a star and can certainly play, I'm sure in a few years you will certainly be convinced about him.
 
…....has just started to heat up......shame

Nice headbutt Mitch..... :brick:
 
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