Dale Finucane

[tig_prmz]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

 

[the_third]

Agree mate its all we can do. The Nofo one was poor. Adding to the fact we now signed big Ken, we now have two wingers signed till end of 2024 and 2025 respectfully, blocking any pathway for anyone else. If someone else does break through, we have a well paid winger in reserve grade.

Hopefully if we land 1-2 (even if a bit overpaid) and they come off, it will entice more players to do so. Knights and Dogs overpaid Burton/Ponga without much experience as a gamble, we might need to do the same.

It hasn't worked for either of those teams yet.

I’m just saying, I’d take Kalyn Ponga in a heartbeat. He’s definitely worked out for the Knights and will only get better with more experience

Still haven't made the 8 with him.

He is one of the top players in the comp and worth marquee dollars but he isn't turning the ship around by himself.

That's the point though, by paying overs have they limited their chance to build a strong enough squad to support him?

Remember Newcastle had a roster that was one of the worst in the history NRL around that 2015-2017 stage. There roster was so far behind us at this point.

They have turned it around to a team that can generally compete with others. Ponga was the carrot, but they have since brought in Pearce, Watson, Frizell, Klemmer, who I would argue have had a significantly bigger impact than any of our signings. They might be on the verge of the 8/just inside or out, but they are far closer to pushing to be a contender than say we are. They might be 2 players off, while it feels like we are 8 players off.

cant get closer to the 8 than 9th haha...

 

[tig_prmz]

It's funny. Everyone says "build culture".. we are the point of let's "buy culture".

Would not be paying superstar money for Finucane. We need to build a Finucane (e.g. someone like Twal).

But he still has 2 good years in him. I would give him 3 with 3rd in our option for off field position.

 

[avocadoontoast]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

 

[cochise]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

He was also sulking about not getting picked last year.

 

[avocadoontoast]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

He was also sulking about not getting picked last year.

Remember when he tweeted after NSW lost the series last year?

 

[JC99]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

He was also sulking about not getting picked last year.

Remember when he tweeted after NSW lost the series last year?

His form this year has made him look silly in that regard. His attitude sucks

 

[FinestTigers]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

Similar example of him would be M Moses who didn't look like a superstar in origin as he did when he plays against us, or was it perhaps in those WT v Eels games Nofo's poor defence made Mitch look like a superstar?

 

[the_third]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

and Lee

 

[WT46]

Is he coming or what

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Re Dale hope we haven’t thrown the towel in yet but if we are fully committed to a younger team a kid I would chase would be Butcher at the Roosters. He runs and carries players often and his defensive work rate is great. Is young but $$$ wise would be a good pickup.

 

[mike]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

Nofo was nowhere near origin. Nofo was delusional to think he was.

 

[Depressed]

Starting his own topic because it is needed..

Surely after another quality 1st half people understand we need to get a player like this to help our defensive structure and someone that doesn't care about just offence like our current team..
Clearly these young guys we have need help and the longer they play like this it will harm them long term.

I hope we go all in for him as we have the money with packer moving on and I would offer 3 year 650k.

Lets do this..

Don’t buy storm players. Name some examples that have worked out.

 

[Depressed]

Unless you can clone him 7 times, he wont help much

Agree. Stop paying overs for storm players, look at the blokes that only play good at the storm it’s a waste of coin.

 

[innsaneink]

Agree mate its all we can do. The Nofo one was poor. Adding to the fact we now signed big Ken, we now have two wingers signed till end of 2024 and 2025 respectfully, blocking any pathway for anyone else. If someone else does break through, we have a well paid winger in reserve grade.

Hopefully if we land 1-2 (even if a bit overpaid) and they come off, it will entice more players to do so. Knights and Dogs overpaid Burton/Ponga without much experience as a gamble, we might need to do the same.

It hasn't worked for either of those teams yet.

I’m just saying, I’d take Kalyn Ponga in a heartbeat. He’s definitely worked out for the Knights and will only get better with more experience

Still haven't made the 8 with him.

He is one of the top players in the comp and worth marquee dollars but he isn't turning the ship around by himself.

That's the point though, by paying overs have they limited their chance to build a strong enough squad to support him?

I get it. I said earlier that if it is a choice between signing a player and paying overs it's often better to miss the player.

I really don't want to sign Finucane even though I think he is a good player. I think the dollars being talked about are crazy. I bet he isn't on 500k at Melbourne and he is looking for a nice little retirement package.

Agree there. There is a difference between paying overs for a promising junior like Suaali or Ponga than someone on the way out like Finucane or Josh Reynolds. In the first instance, if you hit the right one it can set your club up for years.

I'd say DF would bring 20x more positive energy and
attitude onfield and off it

Does that translate to wins. Ponga was mentioned earlier. That guy makes a difference at the highest level. He isn't impacting Newcastle enough on the field.

It's not that DF isn't a good player. He is. You just don't pay the sort of dollars that are being talked about to a player like that. We are talking Mbye/Reynolds type money.

Ponga is a talented kid, hed basically just finished development when he went to Newy
Finucane is highly experienced, respected...leads by example.
It would translate to wins eventually imo...

 

[happy_tiger]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

That is insane money, for effectively a good member of a forward pack, not a damaging runner or especially lethal tackler, just someone who gets through the work.
***Where has that figure come from?***
What is he believed to be on at the storm?

It was posted here from Willow last night from a good source and backs up The Poms version that Finucane isnt serious about coming here and we arent his first or even second choice.

Apparently Finucane told Michelle Bishop today that there are 8 clubs.

Im so glad to hear that about 8 clubs chasing him..but I dont believe it for a moment..
...all part of the BS from the media as to why our ole buddy Dale wld be a great fit for WTs at just $950k for 3 years blah blah...
He HAS BEEN a great workhorse,no more no less,but honestly isnt close to being a game changer at his peak & at this stage of his career wldnt make the top 6 most valuable forwards at the Storm(Smith,Grant,Welch,Asofa,Jessie Bromwich,Kaufusi)..which is why hes out for a final payday
.... am sure hoping it wont be us!

Your right.
Yes Dale Finucane seems like a good player.
Storm have 6 work horses, infact with the bench and recruitment they have more. Dale at 800k is overpriced. 950k no

Yet can he give us what we want?
Defense!
I dont know. I dont think 1 player can fix this. I think he could help and YES if signed Frontload him to the Max! Happy to suffer in 2022 if 2023 means we make the 8.

I think though Defense needs a whole team defense. If you want to pin a crazy idea, pin this:
Coach swap, Michael McGuire for Ricki Stuart. Ricki is one of the best defensive coaches in the league. Michael floggs us hard but cant work out our defensive issues.

We need a defensive coach and we dont have many options:
Bellamy, not happening.
Bennett, probably no chance in hell.

Below that is Ricki Stuart or Flanagan. (Or worse.)

Swapping Maguire for Wicky won’t help us.
Wicky has issues with a number of his players and Canberra (with the exception of the 2019 and 2020 seasons) are basically WT in green jerseys.


I am 140% against sacking Madge, but I think Ricky would be outstanding for us. IMO he is a great coach. What he has achived with Canberra has been unbelievable. Yo uthink its hard to attract players to Concord, try attracting players down there.

You know the maximum is 100% right..

Grinds my gears..


Its actually not.....

If you have 100 gremlins and 10 of them die, what percentage do you have left?

If you have 100 gremlins and someone pours water on them and there there are 140, what percentage are left?

(no idea why I used gremlins, Ive had a couple of beers)

What if 18 ate food after midnight and 13 gave birth through natural causes ...you raise some important questions ....we want answers @cochise

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

He was also sulking about not getting picked last year.

Remember when he tweeted after NSW lost the series last year?

bloke is a Muppet of the highest order

 

[getagrip]

You can understand the decision but they should have made the decision on a cap management basis as well.



Maybe but don't forget last year Noffa was extremely close to Origin as well.

The only person who thought he should have been in origin last year was himself.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31431/nofoaluma/173?page=12

Dally M Winger of the Year and everyone here definitely thought he was close.

I won't derail the thread anymore though.

He could have scored a million tries but he wouldn’t have been picked because he can’t defend. He is absolutely not cut out for origin.

He was also sulking about not getting picked last year.

Remember when he tweeted after NSW lost the series last year?

bloke is a Muppet of the highest order

Maybe he will be 2021 Dally M Whinger of the year

 

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Storm v Knights: Undecided Craig Bellamy will be ‘devasted’ if Dale Finucane leaves club
Steve Orme 12 hrs ago

He is yet to make a call on his own future, but Melbourne Storm coach Craig Bellamy has declared he will be ‘devastated’ if in-demand forward Dale Finucane signs with a rival club.

The Storm are desperate to keep Finucane but salary cap constraints could force the representative forward to move on.

Finucane, who failed an HIA in Saturday’s 48-4 victory over Newcastle, is reportedly being pursued by the Cowboys, Titans, Dragons and Knights, as well as his former club the Bulldogs.

The 29-year-old has played 147 games in seven seasons for the Storm. He made 66 appearances for Canterbury after making his NRL debut in 2012.
“We want him to stay, I don’t think I’ve ever coached a more enjoyable player to coach, to be quite honest,” Bellamy said.

“He’s that diligent in what he does, he’s one of those blokes you’ve got to hold back, you’ve got to put the reins on him and pull the reins back, you don’t have to get the whip out on him at any stage.

“That’s what we love about him, whether it be in preparation or whether it be in the game.

“I’ll be devastated if we don’t keep him but Dale’s got to make a decision and I know it’ll be the right decision for him and his family and I’ll support that all the way too, but I just hope he ends up in purple again next year.”

 

[Needaname]

Taken from Readys mail.

Brent Read reporting it is down to 4 clubs for Finucane who will make a decision by Friday

Those clubs are
- Gold Coast
- North Queensland
- Newcastle
- St George

***he also stated Dragons have offered a 3 year deal worth 850 000 per yr*** which is the same wage Paul Vaughan was on

Titans and Knights have offered less whilst the Cowboys have offered around the same