Dale Finucane

@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407779) said:
@hsvjones said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407775) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407751) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407216) said:
A player like him won’t put a dent in us.

I agree with this. He would add something to an already strong unit but for us he wouldn't do much. Would be a huge chunk of cash for very little upside.

We have to start somewhere ....Finucane on 3 years would be a good signing .....you could sign Haas ,Klemmer , RCG , AFB , Taupau , the Penrith hyphen, Yeo and not much would change ...but it would be a starting point ...next season another quality forward and then you start talking about a pack that can at least hold its own

Does he have 3 years of good footy left in him? Not so sure. I'd rather sign someone in their prime but am happy to be proven wrong.

He is 30 and still paying SOO footy so 3 years I would not have a problem with at all.
We all know he would not come in and then we are an instant top 4 team but he would be a great start. The main reason I want him is to set a standard on and off the field and help develop all these young kids we have. As a club we are working overdrive to set the structures from the juniors up and recruiting ex players and coaches to make that happen but at the end of the day you need some leaders in the team they can actually learn the trade off. By all reports in media and Ex-Players he is the ultimate professional and doesn't skip any step to be a winner.. He is basically asking the same money packer has been on for 4 years and for me I would have him every day over Packer etc.. Add to that he will help attract other players.
But I personally thing we have left it too late as a lot of clubs are now interested in him (for good reason) so our chances are very low... We were too busy flying up to Brisbane when we should of been pouncing on it.

His on field will improve our defence, no question. He's ok in attack but nothing special. So what you're paying overs for, is his leadership. But will that translate to other players? Tamou has apparently been a great influence on the younger players but we're playing worse since he arrived, and he's playing poorly.

If we are all in for Finucane we can't complain when he comes here and is a disappointment. It's a huge risk that we have to be prepared to take (i'm not)

When I say all in I don't mean 850k or something out of this world..
I would have no problems 600-700k max for 3 years. (I cannot see us getting him for that money) .
Tamou is another kettle of fish and I was a fan of him joining us and I think he is not getting hammered by fans because he was not signed on big money. 2 years on low salary was worth the risk but I'm still disappointed in his leadership on the field (20mins)
 
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407699) said:
@hsvjones said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407696) said:
I see there are about 8 clubs chasing him now.... You snooze you lose as they say..
Cannot be that bad of player if this many clubs are interested.

Probably 14 clubs chasing him or have enquired ...some like us got laughed at

Roosters on a shorter term won't surprise me

Then he come to us

100% how it usually plays out for us. Completely miss a player's peak and then sign them based on outdated past achievements and experience. Meanwhile more important attributes such as recent form are in a state of freefall.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407216) said:
A player like him won’t put a dent in us.

I agree with this. He would add something to an already strong unit but for us he wouldn't do much. Would be a huge chunk of cash for very little upside.

We have to start somewhere ....Finucane on 3 years would be a good signing .....you could sign Haas ,Klemmer , RCG , AFB , Taupau , the Penrith hyphen, Yeo and not much would change ...but it would be a starting point ...next season another quality forward and then you start talking about a pack that can at least hold its own

Lol if you signed all them guys everything would change..

Whilst Funicane is a risk I don’t put him in the Packer . Mbye , Reynolds risk category.. front load his contract he would be an asset..
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407751) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407216) said:
A player like him won’t put a dent in us.

I agree with this. He would add something to an already strong unit but for us he wouldn't do much. Would be a huge chunk of cash for very little upside.

We have to start somewhere ....Finucane on 3 years would be a good signing .....you could sign Haas ,Klemmer , RCG , AFB , Taupau , the Penrith hyphen, Yeo and not much would change ...but it would be a starting point ...next season another quality forward and then you start talking about a pack that can at least hold its own

Does he have 3 years of good footy left in him? Not so sure. I'd rather sign someone in their prime but am happy to be proven wrong.

We've signed players in the past who looked like they had minus 3 years in them, so it already looks like a better option.
 
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. 😂

That is likely correct.

300 extra...after tax is not 'that' much.

Add in moving / Sydney prices...relocating his family...then add in that he will undoubtedly be 'looked after' with a post footy job at the Storm...
 
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407216) said:
A player like him won’t put a dent in us.

I agree with this. He would add something to an already strong unit but for us he wouldn't do much. Would be a huge chunk of cash for very little upside.

We have to start somewhere ....Finucane on 3 years would be a good signing .....you could sign Haas ,Klemmer , RCG , AFB , Taupau , the Penrith hyphen, Yeo and not much would change ...but it would be a starting point ...next season another quality forward and then you start talking about a pack that can at least hold its own

Lol if you signed all them guys everything would change..

Whilst Funicane is a risk I don’t put him in the Packer . Mbye , Reynolds risk category.. front load his contract he would be an asset..

So Finucane is your 13....

Who is 11 and 12 ?
Are we persisting with Garner and Luciano ?
Are we making moves towards Blore and Seyfarth starting ?

I'd love it if we could sign Hudson Young.
He's a good one.
 
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. 😂

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face
 
He should stay at Storm for less money as playing with better players prolongs your career. Doubt he would come to our basket case team.
 
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. 😂

Well where did he sit on the rich list that the Tele printed the other day. That usually has Buzz’ mitts all over it. If his quoted as $650 than I’ll accept that.
Given Melbourne’s cap I’d say he’d have to take a haircut to stay there so if Melbourne offer is $500-$550, a couple of hundred more should make him consider his option.
The $950 was a throw away line to emphasise the false salary cap story they were running with.
 
Purcell said he hoped to have Finucane signed and sorted for next season by the middle of July.

“The long and short of it was that over the first four months of negotiations, nobody really believed Dale was ever leaving Melbourne. They all assumed they were being used to pump up his dollars,” Purcell said.

Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy does not want to lose Dale Finucane, but the Storm’s salary cap issues could force the club’s hand.

“The situation at Melbourne, it is what it is. No-one is hiding anything. They are a successful club with high-paid players and they have to juggle that, mix that and do the best they can.

“Dale can stay but he’s not getting any younger and it looks like there’s a 99 per cent chance he is going to leave.

“Now that it’s genuine he’s going to leave, clubs have needed time to move players around to create the cap space needed to get him. We don’t want to cut anyone off, we want to make sure that everyone gets a fair crack.

“Over the last five years, whenever you sit down with a club, they say when he comes off we want to have a go if he’s genuine about leaving.

“There aren’t many guys on the market who have played in an NRL grand final every 32 games they have played in their lives. Standards, that’s what you get with Dale.”

The Dragons have already met with Finucane, who will enter camp with NSW on Tuesday.








Finucane‘s elevation from 18th man should ensure giant forward Payne Haas starts Origin III.
 
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?
 
@demps said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407800) said:
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407216) said:
A player like him won’t put a dent in us.

I agree with this. He would add something to an already strong unit but for us he wouldn't do much. Would be a huge chunk of cash for very little upside.

We have to start somewhere ....Finucane on 3 years would be a good signing .....you could sign Haas ,Klemmer , RCG , AFB , Taupau , the Penrith hyphen, Yeo and not much would change ...but it would be a starting point ...next season another quality forward and then you start talking about a pack that can at least hold its own

Lol if you signed all them guys everything would change..

Whilst Funicane is a risk I don’t put him in the Packer . Mbye , Reynolds risk category.. front load his contract he would be an asset..

So Finucane is your 13....

Who is 11 and 12 ?
Are we persisting with Garner and Luciano ?
Are we making moves towards Blore and Seyfarth starting ?

I'd love it if we could sign Hudson Young.
He's a good one.

Blore and Leilua … with Tuilagi, Garner in the edge back row mix..Seyfarth Ofahengaue middles..

Leilua is playing too many minutes and losses effectiveness…Funicane addresses this as he is more capable of longer minutes with little drop in intensity…
 
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407749) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407216) said:
A player like him won’t put a dent in us.

I agree with this. He would add something to an already strong unit but for us he wouldn't do much. Would be a huge chunk of cash for very little upside.

We have to start somewhere ....Finucane on 3 years would be a good signing .....you could sign Haas ,Klemmer , RCG , AFB , Taupau , the Penrith hyphen, Yeo and not much would change ...but it would be a starting point ...next season another quality forward and then you start talking about a pack that can at least hold its own

Lol if you signed all them guys everything would change..

Whilst Funicane is a risk I don’t put him in the Packer . Mbye , Reynolds risk category.. front load his contract he would be an asset..

Just when I thought you were getting some common sense .....I meant only one of course ......
 
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still pay what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....
 
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407844) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....

I've thought the same thing for years, especially with the Rorters in 2018 and 2019.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407844) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still pay what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....

Who gives the players the rating…for example Funicane maybe a2 at the Storm and a 5 at Wests Tigers
 
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407878) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407844) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still pay what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....

Who gives the players the rating…for example Funicane maybe a2 at the Storm and a 5 at Wests Tigers

NRL of course ....and Finucane is a 8 at the Tigers
 
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407898) said:
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407878) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407844) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still pay what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....

Who gives the players the rating…for example Funicane maybe a2 at the Storm and a 5 at Wests Tigers

NRL of course ....and Finucane is a 8 at the Tigers

Your ratings were 1-5…
 
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407903) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407898) said:
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407878) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407844) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still pay what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....

Who gives the players the rating…for example Funicane maybe a2 at the Storm and a 5 at Wests Tigers

NRL of course ....and Finucane is a 8 at the Tigers

Your ratings were 1-5…

Explains why you order the 5 pack of bread sticks and there is often 1 or two missing...
 
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407903) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407898) said:
@geo said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407878) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407844) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407821) said:
@gcfan said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407801) said:
@twentyforty said in [Dale Finucane](/post/1407763) said:
Buzz reckons Finucane is on $650k at Storm and WT can’t get him for $950k. ?

I heard that too, think it’s purely speculation and the media just highlighting the difficulty with clubs like ours attracting good players in demand. I actually liked the way Kent said if you put the Storm squad on the market they’d be worth $11M but the bulldogs roster would be worth $6M. Highlights the issue bottom clubs face

Yes, I liked that comparison drawn by Kenty. I've often wondered how clubs value a player? Is there a math equation with variables added? or is it a "what the market will accept based on needs evaluation?
If we're not paying overs for a new recruit, how do we know that? At what point are we in danger of exceeding the limit and entering overs territory?

Simple answer players are rated from 1 - 5 points ......for example ...then a club can only spend 100 pts again an example ...they still pay what ever money you are happy to spend ...but a club can't exceed 100 points ....

Who gives the players the rating…for example Funicane maybe a2 at the Storm and a 5 at Wests Tigers

NRL of course ....and Finucane is a 8 at the Tigers

Your ratings were 1-5…

Yeah ...but even a 2 at Melbourne is an 8 at the WT's .....like rating a beautiful woman from Qld and a alleged beauty from NSW ....a 2 in Qld is a ten time Miss NSW even after giving birth to quintuplets ......
 

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