David Klemmer #264

[Needaname]

It’s not about being informed, it’s about how we have handled the situation since.

By keeping him wrapped up in cotton wool?
Prehaps the move was going to happen to St George within the pre season. Then this further news re Molo comes out. Why aren’t the Dragons under the microscope here? How did they get away with giving an advance of a salary to one of their players without the NRL batting an eyelid?

 

[Tucker]

I don’t believe so. Klemmers name has been mentioned by the media as to be moving on or planned to be moved on from the time the Bateman ordeal first came about.

Wasnt Klem named for the first trial and then removed?

 

[Needaname]

Btw in 2020/2021 preseason Panthers told Josh Mansour he is set to start the year in reserve grade and that he won’t be resigned.

 

[Tucker]

It's a business you need to be ruthless like Bellamy. They're making their intentions known that they don't view him as part of the 17 anymore.

Bellamy doesnt treat guys that play for him like this.
Bateman reckons they barely spoke to him. Klemmer is being ostracised from the group for no reason other than forcing him to go. Its shades of Farah being put in reserve grade.

 

[Needaname]

Wasnt Klem named for the first trial and then removed?

Exactly; around the first time we heard of the St George deal being sorted out.
Who else of note from our starting forward pack last year was in that trial?
He was already demoted then and there.

 

[Tucker]

Btw in 2020/2021 preseason Panthers told Josh Mansour he is set to start the year in reserve grade and that he won’t be resigned.

Your argument seems to be "theyre doing it too".
So what? we arent talking about them.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Probably not...moreso definitely not. However we seem to be such amatures at it we balls it up and the media find out.

Yeah F if I know how a arsehat like Chammis sniffed this out, thought all the leaks had been plugged has to be his manager, very disappointing.

 

[upthetigers]

Bellamy doesnt treat guys that play for him like this.
Bateman reckons they barely spoke to him. Klemmer is being ostracised from the group for no reason other than forcing him to go. Its shades of Farah being put in reserve grade.

Farah was a legend of the club and was still playing according to his pay packet. Completely different scenario.

 

[Needaname]

Bellamy doesnt treat guys that play for him like this.
Bateman reckons they barely spoke to him. Klemmer is being ostracised from the group for no reason other than forcing him to go. Its shades of Farah being put in reserve grade.

Is it, that’s what the media want you to believe, I’ve seen Klemmer in all the team photos etc, he was at Leichhardt with the team for the second trial. He is still there.
Has he done a medical with St George? Maybe. We all know what happened with Volkman at Saints Last year after starting preseason with them and not dotting the eyes on the contract.
Seriously this is normal handling at any club and the Tigers. F St George they are in the wrong here.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Probably not...moreso definitely not. However we seem to be such amatures at it we balls it up and the media find out.

Mate I reckon there are clubs that would have played him 13 games and just maximise the value to the club, then theyd banish him to ron Massey. Telling him early, if that's true, is quite good if them in some ways.

Agree on the media finding out being a real annoying aspect of this, yet again. Probably leaked by manager though and Chammas has an axe to grind with us for some reason.

 

[Needaname]

Your argument seems to be "theyre doing it too".
So what? we arent talking about them.

No sure, but he was even more loved by the club was with them for 10 on years. He was a bit but hurt by it but there was no negative media regarding it.
It’s because we are the Tigers.

 

[Needaname]

Mate I reckon there are clubs that would have played him 13 games and just maximise the value to the club, then theyd banish him to ron Massey. Telling him early, if that's true, is quite good if them in some ways.

Agree on the media finding out being a real annoying aspect of this, yet again. Probably leaked by manager though and Chammas has an axe to grind with us for some reason.

100% there would be a club that does that!

 

[Needaname]

End of the day, he doesn’t make my strongest side.

 

[Demps]

End of the day, he doesn’t make my strongest side.

Decent depth to have though, i guess.


Think Pole has continually impressed and with Hunt being a good bench impact, he's forced himself into the starting side.

 

[Camel2281]

It doesn't matter.

That's how contracts work. We have paid Klemmer 700k.

About 400k of that is sunk cost, were going to end up paying the bulk of that contract if Klemmer stays or leaves.

Hence, in my view Klemmer is worth keeping. He isn't our best Prop, but he is in our top 4 and one injury, we would really miss him. Plus by having him at training he improves our squad.

Ofcourse if Payne Haas/AFB/whomever knocks down our door, sure. Yet no one seems to be knocking and good props are in short supply.

Except we're in a situation where if he plays first grade for us this year we're stuck with him and a hefty salary next season as well. It's called cutting your losses

 

[Tucker]

Exactly; around the first time we heard of the St George deal being sorted out.
Who else of note from our starting forward pack last year was in that trial?
He was already demoted then and there.

Thats one way to look at it. How do you know he wasnt short of a gallop? Maybe he was there to lead the pack?

 

[Camel2281]

Bellamy doesnt treat guys that play for him like this.
Bateman reckons they barely spoke to him. Klemmer is being ostracised from the group for no reason other than forcing him to go. Its shades of Farah being put in reserve grade.

Klemmer and his manager are at fault for having that clause in his contract then performing poorly, club would be crazy to keep him and play him this year to be stuck with him again next year

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

Bellamy doesnt treat guys that play for him like this.
Bateman reckons they barely spoke to him. Klemmer is being ostracised from the group for no reason other than forcing him to go. Its shades of Farah being put in reserve grade.

Hello Justin Olam…..

 

[Camel2281]

Mate I reckon there are clubs that would have played him 13 games and just maximise the value to the club, then theyd banish him to ron Massey. Telling him early, if that's true, is quite good if them in some ways.

Agree on the media finding out being a real annoying aspect of this, yet again. Probably leaked by manager though and Chammas has an axe to grind with us for some reason.

Chammis had Sheens and others that fed him info. They are now all gone and he's not happy he's been cut off

 

[426Tlgerland]

Klemmer and his manager are at fault for having that clause in his contract then performing poorly, club would be crazy to keep him and play him this year to be stuck with him again next year

Klemmer is not at fault , the clause is for this year so he hasn’t played poorly yet , it is 13 or 14 start this year and he stays next year , the club are trying to not use him so he can’t get 2026 extension due to costs , but to say it’s his fault is harsh , he was our best forward last year with Pole and Sam F , he had very little help from that cat Steph , now he has an opportunity to start with May which is 100 times better than last year , then Pole and Hunt come on , sound like a very strong winning combo that’s why he is being treated poorly , he probably plays very well this year due to the assistance from the new guys