David Klemmer #264

[bptiger 0]

Which is why we should be happy we’re making moves to improve it. The quality of recruitment has improved remarkably since Richo joined us, fans just need to have faith that that continues.

Iam talking about this season, I doubt we get any other forwards , as Richo and benji have said WE are happy with our forwards, they got to be joking

 

[Tucker]

Hey Tuck
I don’t know how we will know if you are right or not with your thoughts on this one ?
Running Last for 3 years means no matter what happens this year we either improve or stay the same 🤷‍♂️

I’m more commenting on the development of the next gen of Tigers forwards. If this current squad falls apart/leaves without a return to the finals then I’d say it had some influence.

 

[upthetigers]

Everyone seems happy to be getting rid of these big contracts for these guys.
One thing that most are overlooking though is who is going to mentor and bring the new guys through, providing experience in all things preparation and professionalism off the field?

This off season we have lost 756 games worth of top grade experience, with 37 pre seasons worth of preparation, 15 SOO apperances, 57 Internationals, 35 finals appearances including 7 grand finals and 2 premierships, out of our starting pack.

Our remaining forwards (Api, Twal, May, Hunt, Seyfarth, Pole and Fainu) combined - are a pale comparison to these 4 blokes we have lost in terms of experience. Yes we were shit the past 2 years but I think most would agree that Pole, Seyfarth and Fainu have all improved and that is in no small part due to the influence of the experienced guys in day to day preparation - both at training and on game days, eating correctly, mentally adjusting to professionalism and just in general living within the public eye. These guys are still a work in progress and yes we have brought some experience in with hunt and May, but they only have 130 games between them as well.

Our senior mentors are Api and Twal. Api speaks for himself but Alex is only really experienced in club land prep and having experienced 0 Finals, 0 Origin and a couple of Tests for Lebanon in a world cup, he hasnt got much big game knowledge to impart either. Our coaching staff wont be much help either except probably Heighno and Benji to some degree.

So while yes, its a positive to have all this money and under performing stars off the books, what we have lost off the field could prove very costly indeed. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I got laughed at for saying Klem was our forward leader. If we have no adequate replacement I think letting him go is bonkers.

 

[BAGNF05]

Iam talking about this season, I doubt we get any other forwards , as Richo and benji have said WE are happy with our forwards, they got to be joking

I think we’ll be in the market for any decent second rower who becomes available, and we’re probably considered not a bad destination.

 

[watersider]

I get the argument of having an experienced head in the forwards room but he just doesn't seem that enthusiastic or hungry. The last thing you want is a high paid player going through the motions as an example to the young ones. I have no idea how he is off the field so I could be wrong about him, but his own field play was just indifferent and declining.

 

[BAGNF05]

I get the argument of having an experienced head in the forwards room but he just doesn't seem that enthusiastic or hungry. The last thing you want is a high paid player going through the motions as an example to the young ones. I have no idea how he is off the field so I could be wrong about him, but his own field play was just indifferent and declining.

Knights were happy to see him go too, bit of a journey man, maybe not the mentor type.

 

[Camel2281]

Tonight showed Klemmer Isn't required. Twal is a better player than Klemmer and we have Pole, May, Hunt, Bird and Sione Fainu

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Twal actually made a linebreak tonight. I almost fell on the floor.

 

[Tucker]

Tonight showed Klemmer Isn't required. Twal is a better player than Klemmer and we have Pole, May, Hunt, Bird and Sione Fainu

It’s a trial, settle down.
Klemmers value would have been evident after the excitement of the season beginning passed by and the grind of the season set in.

 

[upthetigers]

Twal actually made a linebreak tonight. I almost fell on the floor.

He passed too.

 

[Lestronge]

It’s a trial, settle down.
Klemmers value would have been evident after the excitement of the season beginning passed by and the grind of the season set in.

Maybe . The same was said about james Tamou as well . At some point the ratio of performance to leadership becomes Lopsided for aging props .
I think he would have offered value this year , but if the team can fill the leadership void with other players , I don’t think klemmer would have outperformed manny of the props in the rotation that played tonight . And when you’re paying a guy 700k , and you’re indecisive about whether they can outperform guys like Sione Fainu (good player but a bench player) then it’s time to move off that contract asap.
The shit thing is , if we could have signed klemmer for 300k I’d have been all over it .
At the very least we got him setting standards in the pre-season .

 

[Merlot]

Twal actually made a linebreak tonight. I almost fell on the floor.

plodder had the line wide open ,lol

 

[Tito Santana]

Moral of the story - Klemmer is surplus to our needs and our budget. AND shit.

Cue a certain someone to come in and defend and be his good old fashioned voice of reason.

 

[Ron Brodrick's Spirit]

Tonight showed Klemmer Isn't required. Twal is a better player than Klemmer and we have Pole, May, Hunt, Bird and Sione Fainu

You forgot the biggest revelation of them all, Kit.
The kid is suddenly an intense running cannonball.
Compare and contrast to the relic from an Egyptian archaeological dig, with the body of Steve Urkel who regular gets folded.

 

[Tito Santana]

You forgot the biggest revelation of them all, Kit.
The kid is suddenly an intense running cannonball.
Compare and contrast to the relic from an Egyptian archaeological dig, with the body of Steve Urkel who regular gets folded.

Exactly.

Oh hang. Cue the mentor enthusiasts.

“Mentors guys. Mentors. Gotta have them.”

 

[Tucker]

Exactly.

Oh hang. Cue the mentor enthusiasts.

“Mentors guys. Mentors. Gotta have them.”

You still don’t understand what was said.

 

[Telltails]

I just think it's smart business in relation to cap management. Ive seen next to no passion from Klem in years the stuff that use to make him an enforcer that every player was wary of . If you get an opportunity to move on a player past his best taking up that much cap space, you act.

 

[twentyforty]

I get the argument of having an experienced head in the forwards room but he just doesn't seem that enthusiastic or hungry. The last thing you want is a high paid player going through the motions as an example to the young ones. I have no idea how he is off the field so I could be wrong about him, but his own field play was just indifferent and declining.

His manager only gets commission when he rights a new contract.

 

[Lestronge]

Exactly.

Oh hang. Cue the mentor enthusiasts.

“Mentors guys. Mentors. Gotta have them.”

There’s value in what he’s saying though . Watch the roosters go shit this year , and the narrative will be around there being “no forward leader” , so they’ll go buy someone else’s forward leader .
I’m just not sold that that value hasn’t been used up . The positives of klemmer is he’s a great trainer and a good person to have around the group. You get the most value from someone like that in the preseason , as mid season , a lot of the training is recovery and maintaining fitness .
Look it’s pretty obvious what’s going to happen though . He will go to the dragons play amazing and we will all be talking about how dumb it was moving off him .
And if he stays here he will play shit and we will gripe about how we should have got rid of him . This is the Murphys law of being a tigers fan haha !

 

[innsaneink]

Brandy just said Klemmer has left the club, so I guess it's a done deal.
Praise the lord!

Nek minnit he's there in the sheds with the team