De-Belin

It is a serious charge the ban should stand.He is not losing any money as he is getting all of his contract paid to him.A hung jury does not make him not guilty.
 
What has been reported about the details of the case do not read well for JDB.
However as most reports come from the back pages rather than the front, so I will reserve my judgement. To allow him back just because the case is taking a long time would not be the right decision.
 
Happy with NRL current stance. As others have said the evidence doesn't sound good for Jack. Still find it hard he put himself in this situation.
 
@jadtiger said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276535) said:
It is a serious charge the ban should stand.He is not losing any money as he is getting all of his contract paid to him.A hung jury does not make him not guilty.

Even if they found him not guilty it's still a very bad look for the NRL and for NRL players in general.

I'm not normally one to preach morals, but he's got to be a pretty low quality human, going out night clubbing and doing what he did while his partner was at home heavily pregnant.
 
It's a really difficult one - one that has merit on both sides, but on balance, I think the NRL call is the right one.
 
He was acting like a grub regardless so couldn’t care less that he is being punished even if ended in jail.

I’ve been following the case closely which similar to Hayne case in that one person says there was consent and other states there is not.


To the legal eagles out there what are the element of Rape, do they look into the mind of the victim or defendant for consent?


If it’s the defendant it would be pretty difficult to prove, when the defendant saying I didn’t do it.


The injuries for Hayne Victim I guess would not help his case.


Any thoughts on where the cases may go?


I fully support the nrl policy why should nrl be put threw the mud when player made their bed.
 
@tony-soprano said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276602) said:
He was acting like a grub regardless so couldn’t care less that he is being punished even if ended in jail.

I’ve been following the case closely which similar to Hayne case in that one person says there was consent and other states there is not.


To the legal eagles out there what are the element of Rape, do they look into the mind of the victim or defendant for consent?


If it’s the defendant it would be pretty difficult to prove, when the defendant saying I didn’t do it.


The injuries for Hayne Victim I guess would not help his case.


Any thoughts on where the cases may go?


I fully support the nrl policy why should nrl be put threw the mud when player made their bed.

Don't want to get banned from this site, so I'll pass
 
Its a joke.
If he gets acquitted he has lost 3 years of prime first grade. I would sue the nrl for lost income.
If he is found guilty then punish.
If I'm awaiting trial and on bail, I would be working.
Bringing the game into disrepute is just fluff.
 
@tony-soprano said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276602) said:
He was acting like a grub regardless so couldn’t care less that he is being punished even if ended in jail.

I’ve been following the case closely which similar to Hayne case in that one person says there was consent and other states there is not.


To the legal eagles out there what are the element of Rape, do they look into the mind of the victim or defendant for consent?


If it’s the defendant it would be pretty difficult to prove, when the defendant saying I didn’t do it.


The injuries for Hayne Victim I guess would not help his case.


Any thoughts on where the cases may go?


I fully support the nrl policy why should nrl be put threw the mud when player made their bed.

Being a criminal case, the defendant must be proven to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. He does not have to prove his innonocence, the prosecution has to prove he is guilty.
 
I think the NRL made a huge mistake getting involved in the legal process I hate any assault especially sexual assault and the penalties are to soft, BUT YOU ARE INNOCENT TILL PROVAN GUILTY, If any of this stand down policy gets challenged in court i think the NRL would lose.
 
@PJ said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276609) said:
Its a joke.
If he gets acquitted he has lost 3 years of prime first grade. I would sue the nrl for lost income.
If he is found guilty then punish.
If I'm awaiting trial and on bail, I would be working.
Bringing the game into disrepute is just fluff.

He’s still getting paid. Might have lost a tpa.
Hasn’t st George already challenged nrl about being stood down . Or did they pull out of it
 
There are thousands of kids playing NRL.Who has;t had one beer too many?How many couples have .spat verbal abuse at each other.How many of you at some stage got drunkand acted like an idiot.If its not on the field it has nothing to do with the NRL.It has set itself up as another legal sytem.No other sport has done this.It was done to appease sponsors.ASfor the media coverage of these trials its disgusting to all parties,wether innocent or guilty they are ruined.
 
Legit never been on a jury before, been invited, rocked up and told I wasn’t needed because I was too young at the time

But why don’t they have an uneven amount of people in a jury to stop deadlocks happening? Or does it not work like that?
 
@sleeve said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276632) said:
There are thousands of kids playing NRL.Who has;t had one beer too many?How many couples have .spat verbal abuse at each other.How many of you at some stage got drunkand acted like an idiot.If its not on the field it has nothing to do with the NRL.It has set itself up as another legal sytem.No other sport has done this.It was done to appease sponsors.ASfor the media coverage of these trials its disgusting to all parties,wether innocent or guilty they are ruined.

Rugby sacked Isreal. Just saying
 
@sleeve said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276632) said:
There are thousands of kids playing NRL.Who has;t had one beer too many?How many couples have .spat verbal abuse at each other.How many of you at some stage got drunkand acted like an idiot.If its not on the field it has nothing to do with the NRL.It has set itself up as another legal sytem.No other sport has done this.It was done to appease sponsors.ASfor the media coverage of these trials its disgusting to all parties,wether innocent or guilty they are ruined.

He’s a douche bag and like it or not he represents the NRL
 
@PJ said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276609) said:
Its a joke.
If he gets acquitted he has lost 3 years of prime first grade. I would sue the nrl for lost income.
If he is found guilty then punish.
If I'm awaiting trial and on bail, I would be working.
Bringing the game into disrepute is just fluff.

That’s not the NRL fault
 
@sleeve said in [De\-Belin](/post/1276619) said:
I think the NRL made a huge mistake getting involved in the legal process I hate any assault especially sexual assault and the penalties are to soft, BUT YOU ARE INNOCENT TILL PROVAN GUILTY, If any of this stand down policy gets challenged in court i think the NRL would lose.

It has and NRL won
 
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