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@happy tiger said:I still think double headers could be the answer and then the bigger stadiums aren't empty vessels any more
@happy tiger said:I still think double headers could be the answer and then the bigger stadiums aren't empty vessels any more
@claws said:Went to this game as my son carried the Hyundai banner onto the field at half time, what an atmosphere? Great game as well. The family did not attend an NRL game this year, although we did attend 2 Tah games that were fantastic. **The problem with league, is it can be boring.** By this, I mean hit it up for 4 and kick. Our family miss Tim Sheens and everything he brought to NRL and the Weststigers. Go Weststigers!
@Fade To Black said:@claws said:Went to this game as my son carried the Hyundai banner onto the field at half time, what an atmosphere? Great game as well. The family did not attend an NRL game this year, although we did attend 2 Tah games that were fantastic. **The problem with league, is it can be boring.** By this, I mean hit it up for 4 and kick. Our family miss Tim Sheens and everything he brought to NRL and the Weststigers. Go Weststigers!
If the soccer is so exciting, why do sections of the crowd spend the majority of Wanderers games with their back to the playing field, not even watching the game? Can;t say you hear too many people saying that they love soccer for the actual game itself, it is usually always just for the "atmosphere". If a couple of thousand people chanting meaningless, incoherant songs constitutes "atmosphere" then you may as well go to karaoke or an English/Irish/Scottish pub IMO.
Can see what you are getting at by saying that the NRL is becoming quite stale and predictable but it would beat the sport of soccer for thrills and excitement hands down without a doubt (maybe not for "atmosphere" though).
@Balmain Boy said:Actually many people prefer the strategy, patient buildup and intelligence required to play football, whereas **all you need to succeed in league is pace or strength.** If you have both, you're a superstar (ie Inglis).
The Aleague wont ever have more than 2 teams in Sydney, but those teams have the potential to be bigger than any other clubs in Sydney of any sport. It's by far the highest participation sport in the country, has a growing league and clubs which really connect with their fans and create some great atmosphere.
Outside of Leichhardt I think I've only ever been to maybe 2-3 NRL games in the last 10 year that had any atmosphere. It's like sitting in a stadium to listen to the birds sing and watch a team try to get down the other end of the field. You can hear a pin drop at most NRL, AFL, Super Rugby and cricket matches.
I don't know if clubs from any of these codes will ever build the same rapport with their fans as these football clubs do. It's just not in the nature of your regular NRL, Super Rugby, cricket or even AFL fan. They pay money to sit and watch a game (in silence for the most part) and that's all.
@Goose said:I think this thread highlights for me a little why the game as a whole does not go forward. Right now the soccer is clearly doing something right,particularly the wanderers. However when people we suggest we look into why they are succeeding, league fans trot out the same stuff, we have a better game, they only have 2 teams that is why they are going well, we are still better.
And as it stands overall league is still in front of Soccer, but we can look at what they are doing well and replicate their strengths,
I was at a function when someone asked Phil Gould about what the Panthers could learn from the Wanderers success, he responded on going on a big rant about not letting them waltz into our backyard and take our fans, blah, blah blah.
I would have liked him to jump and say, they have engaged the business community and made themselves available as often as possible which has gained support, something we could do better (or something else he thought relevant)
Rugby league administrators think that people in NSW will play and watch rugby league regardless and dont take options to ensure it happens.
@Fade To Black said:@Balmain Boy said:Actually many people prefer the strategy, patient buildup and intelligence required to play football, whereas **all you need to succeed in league is pace or strength.** If you have both, you're a superstar (ie Inglis).
The Aleague wont ever have more than 2 teams in Sydney, but those teams have the potential to be bigger than any other clubs in Sydney of any sport. It's by far the highest participation sport in the country, has a growing league and clubs which really connect with their fans and create some great atmosphere.
Outside of Leichhardt I think I've only ever been to maybe 2-3 NRL games in the last 10 year that had any atmosphere. It's like sitting in a stadium to listen to the birds sing and watch a team try to get down the other end of the field. You can hear a pin drop at most NRL, AFL, Super Rugby and cricket matches.
I don't know if clubs from any of these codes will ever build the same rapport with their fans as these football clubs do. It's just not in the nature of your regular NRL, Super Rugby, cricket or even AFL fan. They pay money to sit and watch a game (in silence for the most part) and that's all.
:wtf You forgot courage, skill, stamina, toughness agility etc etc etc.
As for the "patient build-up" of soccer….probably half of all soccer games end in a scoreless draw so you would have to be a patient person to even sit through that IMO. (If you were to endure the equivalent sort of thing in the bedroom you would have the worst case of blue balls in history).
Not knocking soccer but it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to come to the conclusion that there are more attributes required by a rugby league player than a soccer player, at any level.
