Does our strength and conditioning coach....

[Anthism]

I've heard its the wrestling nature the game has taken along with everybody tackling higher on the body, wrapping up the ball. Before you tackled around the two spindley legs, now its the huge chest and arms. Don't know if this is true, but sound like its on the money?

Bigger players = Bigger collisions = more chance of injury. Rationale for getting rid of shoulder charge now.
Galloway/Lawrence/Fotuaika all had muscle strains which make you question our training methods as they weren't caused by direct contact as such. Not sure about Fulton/Anasta though, could be same boat as above.
Moltzen/Benji/Ayshford are pure bad luck. Nothing more to it there.
No idea about Bell's injury, Koro's was somewhat inevitable running full blast on kick returns.
I can't say much else without more information but a review should be on the cards at WT at end of season. Surely something can be done to minimize injuries without making training any easier. It would also be better financially for the club to invest in such a review in the long run.

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[Cultured_Bogan]

I've heard its the wrestling nature the game has taken along with everybody tackling higher on the body, wrapping up the ball. Before you tackled around the two spindley legs, now its the huge chest and arms. Don't know if this is true, but sound like its on the money?


 

[tigerlogic]

If a coach has 15 straight losses, he'd be sacked. Surely 15 players out in half a dozen games requires some scrutiny of the strength and conditioning team..?

Things like broken bones I can accept as its usually just a freak accident, but muscular injuries like strains, tears etc comes down to how the muscles are conditioned. Either they're not strong enough or they're not warning up properly.

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Not true at all! Have u or do u work in strength n conditioning? From ur comment I am guessing not, players doing tears or ligament problems isn't because of the trainers, there conditioning program is elite like any other clubs and they warm up thoroughly and specifically before training and games

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Have you tried playing sport without warming up properly? You're many times more susceptible to injury

I'm saying they do warm up properly! Ofcourse u can get hurt if u don't.. But they do!

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[system]

Lawrence has had hamstring issues from his first year of fulltime NRL and yet they continue to put muscle on him. We have the same players constantly with the same soft tissue injuries.

Either we are very, very unlucky or there is a major issue with how these conditions are being rehabed and/or major preparation issues

 

[Peaches]

Lawrence has had hamstring issues from his first year of fulltime NRL and yet they continue to put muscle on him. We have the same players constantly with the same soft tissue injuries.

Either we are very, very unlucky or there is a major issue with how these conditions are being rehabed and/or major preparation issues

I've read and heard that continuous hamstring issues can be related to your core, back and spine.

Maybe the core body of the players isn't being addressed enough?

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[Demonborger]

Hmm might be time for the NRL to definitively rework the tackle rules and interpretations to stop the emphasis on wrestling and favouritism for bigger players. Make things more black and white. Would need work but would potentially lead to fairer/better refereeing, fewer injuries and take away emphasis from size and put it onto skill. There's still be physicality in collisions and general play and till scope for injuries but would hopefully cut down on a few things.

It really is time the NRL established a unit for trialling methods to make officiating better and working on interpretations and changes within a scientific environment away from coaches wishes, ideas of a few morons and things that are untried and rushed out too soon (obstruction rule)

 

[Irvine]

Five ACl injuries we have had in the last year. the ones I know of are

Tim Moltzen
James Tedesco
James Luff
Mason Farrell
Jarrad Szuzdulo

Does that seem like a high number for one club ?

 

[tigerlogic]

Five ACl injuries we have had in the last year. the ones I know of are

Tim Moltzen
James Tedesco
James Luff
Mason Farrell
Jarrad Szuzdulo

Does that seem like a high number for one club ?

Well our NRL S+C staff are only responsible for two of those 5 players so I would say 2 is not many, just bad luck..and u cannot train to protect an ACL it will go when it wants to

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[1974semifinal]

I don't want to be too harsh. All our coaches are good loyal WT's people that obviously love the club. The likes of Royce, Georgallis, Mcdonnell, Skando, Leeds, Payten etc. Now Payten obviously did a great job in year 1\. However some of others, there probably just the cheap option and there is a sense of staleness.

The fact that we have made 3 finals in 10 years, we get the most injuries most years, our recruitment is average most years, our defence is bad most years, we are undersized most years.

The place needs some fresh minds and sharper minds in general. Whether they have the cash to do it is another matter. I feel we are behind the the eight ball with our football department compared to most clubs. I only base this on what I see on the field each year.

Agree completely. But do they all go ?..Sorry to look back , but after 2005 the people in charge did not consolidate after that year. We lost very good players who were not replaced. So this situation has been going for quite a few years…Royce and McDonnell should be moved on..but this an 'Old Boys' club.

 

[alex]

Player management overall in this club is terrible. Whether its recruitment, retention, strength or conditioning - we suck at everything

 

[1974semifinal]

it seems that way..

 

[DonnyBrasco]

One, a study being published this month in The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, concluded that if you stretch before you lift weights, you may find yourself feeling weaker and wobblier than you expect during your workout. Those findings join those of another new study from Croatia, a bogglingly comprehensive re-analysis of data from earlier experiments that was published in The Scandinavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports. Together, the studies augment a growing scientific consensus that pre-exercise stretching is generally unnecessary and likely counterproductive

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[DonnyBrasco]

One, a study being published this month in The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, concluded that if you stretch before you lift weights, you may find yourself feeling weaker and wobblier than you expect during your workout. Those findings join those of another new study from Croatia, a bogglingly comprehensive re-analysis of data from earlier experiments that was published in The Scandinavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports. Together, the studies augment a growing scientific consensus that pre-exercise stretching is generally unnecessary and likely counterproductive

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Sorry, forgot to add link http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/reasons-not-to-stretch/

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[badger]

The consistencey with which our boys get seriously injured year in and year out would certainly suggest to me that there is a problem in the area of strength and conditioning. It is in my view costing us financialy and in terms of results and memberships making the finals ect. Perhaps the club needs some help in getting this sorted out. Look at what other clubs are doing. Maybe the nrl needs to be involved as well because noone wants their kids to play a sport where they could be seriously injured as we see every week in the nrl/tigers.

 

[Black_n_White]

IMHO, I am very happy with where Potter seems to be trying to steer us, and am glad he is here, but it would have been interesting to see what Walters could have brought to the table from all his time under Bellamy…

 

[tigerlogic]

One, a study being published this month in The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, concluded that if you stretch before you lift weights, you may find yourself feeling weaker and wobblier than you expect during your workout. Those findings join those of another new study from Croatia, a bogglingly comprehensive re-analysis of data from earlier experiments that was published in The Scandinavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports. Together, the studies augment a growing scientific consensus that pre-exercise stretching is generally unnecessary and likely counterproductive

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Sceptical about that as world elite power lifters all stretch before their sessions…
But regardless of whether it is true all teams are doing the same general thing

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[DonnyBrasco]

Sceptical about that as world elite power lifters all stretch before their sessions…
But regardless of whether it is true all teams are doing the same general thing

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Yeh, it's all interesting, I guess in the end are we using cutting edge ideas and employing the best sports scientists (not like dank) or are we still using methods and people from 20 years ago, that were fine when you had 10 beers and a few meat pies after the game…

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[tigerlogic]

Sceptical about that as world elite power lifters all stretch before their sessions…
But regardless of whether it is true all teams are doing the same general thing

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Yeh, it's all interesting, I guess in the end are we using cutting edge ideas and employing the best sports scientists (not like dank) or are we still using methods and people from 20 years ago, that were fine when you had 10 beers and a few meat pies after the game…

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Mate it is my understanding that skando, Sean burns (RIP), and some of the current training staff spent time in USA during their break learning the current techniques and looking at the cutting edge methods of sports training. They spent a lot of time with college football organisations, I know it doesn't sound like much to say 'college', but college football there is so much bigger than the NRL so they are doing the right things as far as staying up to date

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[Irvine]

Player management overall in this club is terrible. Whether its recruitment, retention, strength or conditioning - we suck at everything

Plus the Membership Department not to mention Finance Department. They are all the same >>> Crap and unprofessional.

Jobs for the boys welcome to the 70's…. make some changes Potter if you can.