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Does Tedesco have the body of a first grader?
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People have clearly forgotten about the great Toddy "Poleaxed" Polglase. A very safe fullback and a quality player he got absolutely smashed pretty much every time he had the ball, at times i wondered if he'd stay in one piece. Whilst he retired a few years back at only about 27ish he still played 100 nrl matches and was one of the few bright lights during souths misery years…one tough if unlucky bugger...tedesco is bigger and quicker and only 20, give him time
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@jimmyz said:to many tedesco lovers here for someone that at best has been average,to many weakneses in his game atm.
He's been better than average on more than one occasion this year.
@pattyferg said:@smeghead said:Mullaney
Ha. I have never witnessed a more pathetic, gutless effort from a fullback then the one he turned out against Manly last night
You obviously missed Moltzen's last few games??
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it's not that he doesn't have the body, he doesnt have the ball playing ability (at the moment)..
there is more to a fullbacks game than being safe under the high ball. they act as an extra ball player in the backline to link with the outside backs.
because we havent had a good fullback since hodgson (who could not only take high balls, hit gaps as a support player and link with outside backs with his ball playing ability), tedesco gets wrapped based on his ability in younger grades and for simply catching the high ball (and i wont lie, it is a good feeling having a safe fullback).for his age and the injuries he has occurred, he is doing well. but he's still underdone.
barba, inglis, bowen, slater, stewart, hayne etc. they all have ball playing ability. tedesco does not have it at the moment… and its an obvious when we are trying to get creative especially on the oppositions try line that we are missing that extra link player. fulton steps in at times, but we cant rely on him for that, we need it from the fullback.
i personally think for tedesco's development if he jumped back to NSW cup and they played him as a five eighth, come 2014 he would be in for a big NRL season in the NRL. he'll find it much easier to learn than playing in an underdone NRL side and it will also improve his ability to pick holes when running as a fullback.
there is more to a fullbacks game than being safe under the high ball. they act as an extra ball player in the backline to link with the outside backs.
because we havent had a good fullback since hodgson (who could not only take high balls, hit gaps as a support player and link with outside backs with his ball playing ability), tedesco gets wrapped based on his ability in younger grades and for simply catching the high ball (and i wont lie, it is a good feeling having a safe fullback).for his age and the injuries he has occurred, he is doing well. but he's still underdone.
barba, inglis, bowen, slater, stewart, hayne etc. they all have ball playing ability. tedesco does not have it at the moment… and its an obvious when we are trying to get creative especially on the oppositions try line that we are missing that extra link player. fulton steps in at times, but we cant rely on him for that, we need it from the fullback.
i personally think for tedesco's development if he jumped back to NSW cup and they played him as a five eighth, come 2014 he would be in for a big NRL season in the NRL. he'll find it much easier to learn than playing in an underdone NRL side and it will also improve his ability to pick holes when running as a fullback.
@mtd said:it's not that he doesn't have the body, he doesnt have the ball playing ability (at the moment)..
there is more to a fullbacks game than being safe under the high ball. they act as an extra ball player in the backline to link with the outside backs.
because we havent had a good fullback since hodgson (who could not only take high balls, hit gaps as a support player and link with outside backs with his ball playing ability), tedesco gets wrapped based on his ability in younger grades and for simply catching the high ball (and i wont lie, it is a good feeling having a safe fullback).for his age and the injuries he has occurred, he is doing well. but he's still underdone.
barba, inglis, bowen, slater, stewart, hayne etc. they all have ball playing ability. tedesco does not have it at the moment… and its an obvious when we are trying to get creative especially on the oppositions try line that we are missing that extra link player. fulton steps in at times, but we cant rely on him for that, we need it from the fullback.
i personally think for tedesco's development if he jumped back to NSW cup and they played him as a five eighth, come 2014 he would be in for a big NRL season in the NRL. he'll find it much easier to learn than playing in an underdone NRL side and it will also improve his ability to pick holes when running as a fullback.
I would have to disagree with this on Tedesco's present ball skills. I know you emphasise the YET part, indicating you do think he has the potential.
In order to take the high balls of the difficulty Tedesco is able to, including the fumbling ones he takes, requires an extraordinary amount of coordination. Which its clear he has. The same applies for ball skills, the key to good ball skills is good coordination, which is has locked down. We saw this a couple of weeks ago when we were spreading it down the left side on the try line and Teddy just lightly tipped it on to his outside man, showing good ball skills.
However, what he does lack is vision in terms of this part of his game. He is not a half, so is not expected to have a lot of vision. But as you say a fullback in the modern game chimes in and acts as a ball player, which Teddy then lacks the vision to know the correct thing to do with it. He is 20 years old and i believe this aspect of his game will continue to improve on experience. Putting him down to NSW cup as a half could also not be a bad idea to improve this part of his game.
I also hope after the bye his injuries have healed up a bit so he gets back some of his confidence and we don't all have heart attacks every time he hits it up.
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@mtd said:it's not that he doesn't have the body, he doesnt have the ball playing ability (at the moment)..
there is more to a fullbacks game than being safe under the high ball. they act as an extra ball player in the backline to link with the outside backs.
because we havent had a good fullback since hodgson (who could not only take high balls, hit gaps as a support player and link with outside backs with his ball playing ability), tedesco gets wrapped based on his ability in younger grades and for simply catching the high ball (and i wont lie, it is a good feeling having a safe fullback).for his age and the injuries he has occurred, he is doing well. but he's still underdone.
barba, inglis, bowen, slater, stewart, hayne etc. they all have ball playing ability. tedesco does not have it at the moment… and its an obvious when we are trying to get creative especially on the oppositions try line that we are missing that extra link player. fulton steps in at times, but we cant rely on him for that, we need it from the fullback.
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i personally think for tedesco's development if he jumped back to NSW cup and they played him as a five eighth, come 2014 he would be in for a big NRL season in the NRL. he'll find it much easier to learn than playing in an underdone NRL side and it will also improve his ability to pick holes when running as a fullback.
Dont know if you remember the 2013 Foundation Cup game MTD
Our last try was courtesy of the best grabber I have seen from any of our "playmakers" this season
And the player who supplied that grabber you may ask ?? One James Tedesco
Just because we haven't seen his ball skills doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have ball playing skills
Possibly he is under instructions from Potter to stick to the basics ,which he is doing well under the circumstances having just come back from ACL surgery and now suffering turf toe
Pity the other bloke with turf toe ,isn't showing the same guts and commitment that Teddy has
I think his body is borderline at the moment. It should get better as he gets bigger, older and stronger.
What can't be denied is that regardless of his body size and fitness he puts it on the line, which is far more than we have from some playing at fullback. He has come back from a major injury yet shows he has the confidence you need at this position.
As for his positioning the 40/20 against him was on the 3rd tackle and he was defending shallow - which he would have been doing for good reason. Fullbacks cannot be in more than one place at a time.
His hands are getting better IMO and yes he does slip too much, not sure if it is his running style or maybe a sub-conscious way of protecting his knee or a combination of both. But I will put up with that for the above reasons.
What can't be denied is that regardless of his body size and fitness he puts it on the line, which is far more than we have from some playing at fullback. He has come back from a major injury yet shows he has the confidence you need at this position.
As for his positioning the 40/20 against him was on the 3rd tackle and he was defending shallow - which he would have been doing for good reason. Fullbacks cannot be in more than one place at a time.
His hands are getting better IMO and yes he does slip too much, not sure if it is his running style or maybe a sub-conscious way of protecting his knee or a combination of both. But I will put up with that for the above reasons.
