Dragons choke? They could, say Tigers

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Dragons choke? They could, say Tigers
David Beniuk
September 20, 2010 - 7:34PM

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The Wests Tigers' big guns have wasted no time in heaping the pressure on a St George Illawarra side desperate to shake off the "chokers" tag ahead of Saturday night's blockbuster NRL preliminary final.

As tickets went out the door faster than for last year's Canterbury-Parramatta match attended by nearly 75,000 fans, Benji Marshall and Lote Tuqiri went on the attack in the pre-game psychological battle with the Dragons.

"They're a tough side and I suppose they're going to have all the expectation on them to beat us and all the pressure's on them," Marshall told reporters on Monday.

"I like it, I like being the underdog, it's nice, just slip under the radar and just go quietly."

But the Tigers weren't going quietly as dual international Tuqiri added his wealth of pre-finals experience to the massive build-up.

"The pressure's on them to keep performing," he said.

"It's not like we don't have anything to lose, but we finished third, they finished first, they've got the pressure on them to play well and keep that defensive record up.

"Hopefully our crowd and everything else, a good crowd at ANZ, will put a bit of pressure on them as well."

A computer glitch on Monday probably boosted sales to 15,000 as non-members were accidentally given on-line access to tickets reserved for club members.

Sales were temporarily suspended while that was fixed and the public can buy tickets from Tuesday.

Only 12,500 were sold on the same day for the Bulldogs-Eels showdown last year.

Dragons lock Dean Young dismissed the suggestion his side would feel the pinch after failed preliminary finals in 2005 - against the Tigers - and 2006, and then crashing out of last year's play-offs after finishing minor premiers.

"I wouldn't say extra pressure, I think it's pressure each week, it's pressure playing in the red V and everyone's under the same amount of pressure now because there's four teams left," he said.

"If you lose you're out and if you win you're in the big one so the pressure is the same for the four teams left."

The Tigers were also busy sowing the seeds of doubt in Dragon minds about whether the week off is an advantage.

"Who knows what the week off might have done for them?" Marshall pondered.

"They'll be fresh and ready to go but the first 20 (minutes) we'll see.

"When you lose the match fitness for a week it's a bit different when you come back to play the first 20."

Marshall is in rare form but said he was just glad to at last be injury-free and playing finals football again.

"I'm not really feeling any expectation or any pressure," he said.

"I'm just going to play my game and hopefully that will take care of itself."

And that, if nothing else is, is one thing that is worrying the Dragons.

"Obviously everyone has seen what Benji can do but that doesn't mean you know how to defend it," Dragons winger Jason Nightingale said.

"You never know exactly what he's going to come up with, he obviously sticks to the game-plan but sometimes that can go a bit off course and damage can be done.

"So obviously we'll just have to be on our toes, there's nothing you can really do to plan for exactly what Benji Marshall's going to do."
 
I not sure all this talk is going to work in our favour. All it's going to do is make them focus on the very things we want them to fall down in. I'm also starting to think they might have the better strategy, they've been very quiet. I reckon their privately thinking we'll do the talking on the field.

I think we should shut up now.
 
Yeah I don't think we should add to their motivation, if I was coaching I would make use of anything the opposition had to say.
 
@Icon said:
I not sure all this talk is going to work in our favour. All it's going to do is make them focus on the very things we want them to fall down in. I'm also starting to think they might have the better strategy, they've been very quiet. I reckon their privately thinking we'll do the talking on the field.

I think we should shut up now.

Mind games.
The pressures on them…always has been.
Keep it going...I love it
Its all a bonus from hereon in
 
**Dragons avoiding Tiger flashbacks**
By Ben Horne AAP Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:06:36

St George Illawarra forward Dean Young is adamant he and the Dragons aren't coming down with a case of deja vu ahead of this Saturday night's NRL preliminary final against Wests Tigers.

On the same night back in 2005, the red V came off a week's break and started heavy favourites to beat the Tigers for a spot in the grand final.

But the exuberance and confidence of Tim Sheens' men proved too strong and Dragons fans had their hearts broken yet again.

Wests went onto win their fairytale premiership and are again hoping for another at the expense of St George Illawarra, who are desperate to put an end to their `chokers' tag.

Young accepts that the apparent similarities between now and 2005 will make the flashback a hot topic for fans and the media, but he isn't buying into the hype.

Not that he doesn't appreciate where they're coming from - Young remembers the dramatic loss like it was yesterday.

But aside from himself, Ben Hornby, Ben Creagh, Mark Gasnier and Matt Cooper, the Dragons are a different side with a new coach and a fresh outlook.

"I think as soon as I found out on Friday night that the Tigers won, I knew it was going to be a big week for you mob (media) and the fans because you (guys) love it," Young said.

"It hurt a lot, it's one you can't get back … it would be nice to get one back on them but for the rest of the team and for Wayne (coach Bennett) ... it probably doesn't mean too much to them because they weren't here.

"It's obviously a grand final qualifier and it's St George Illawarra versus the Tigers and that's about it, that's probably where it ends."

One thing that is certainly similar from `05 to now, is the form of Tigers star Benji Marshall.

As a 20-year-old Marshall was the chief destroyer and, five seasons on, he's recaptured his freakish best at exactly the right time.

Marshall has been outstanding in both finals so far, but was at pains to point out that 2010 is a "different" story for both teams.

"I knew this was coming. I suppose it's the same game to make the final but different teams," Marshall said.

"I think we're a different team and I think I'm a different player and they've got a different coaching staff and all their players are different as well, so a lot of similarities but also a lot of differences."

Young is confident the Dragons' impeccable defensive record will repel Marshall and the Tigers.

The Dragons faithful are hungry and impatient for success, but Young said they won't be falling into the trap of thinking too far ahead.

"We'd love to win the grand final but there's no use even talking about it because we've got a game to play this week and if I started talking about next week and we bow out then we're on mad Monday," said Young, who revealed the Dragons are feeling refreshed and aren't concerned about losing momentum following their week off.

"We know this club's got high expectations and we've just got to deal with that."
 
Call me a party pooper, but does anyone else feel like all these articles are gonna come back n bite us? The dragons r quiet and we're bragging…can't say I like all this media attention.
 
I saw a very similar build up last week with Geelong and Collingwood. Geelong were doing a lot of talking about all the pressure being the Magpies, and the weight of expectation because of their long premiership drought. In the end Geelong just looked silly and got smashed. It is sometimes a desperate tactic to talk a bit of trash in the media when you are worried yourselves and start looking to put doubts in the opponents mind as a way of closing the gap.

I agree that I don' think it suits us to be doing all this talking about the pressure being on Saints. They know that and us talking about them just gives them a bit of ammo. Not a big fan of it to be honest, and will look bad if we happen to come out and not back up the talk.

I believe our best footy will be enough to beat the Dragons and we don't need this media talk talking about how much pressure in on Saints. The comments by Beau Ryan were a bit silly in my opinion.
 
Ryan's comments were clearly a gee up, they even rang him to apologise for taking them out of context.

I think from today onwards we will read less and less about ourselves.
 
I heard Mr Incredible, I mean Gasnier, saying how they plan to turn 'get one back' on the tigers by winning on Saturday. Tim will have the boys ready.
 
You win the minor premiership, you lose two finals and you're out,
You win the minor premiership, you lose the prelim and you're out,
You do the OKI Chokey, other fans cry out, you can't beat the premiership drought.

Oh-oh, the OKI Chokey
Oh-oh, the OKI Chokey
Oh-oh, the OKI Chokey
You can't break the premiership drought.
 
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