Eisenhuth at prop

[Tuiaki_Chicken_Wings]

He can find a hole

Last two games he has found a hole once for a try , once he would have had a try assist if anyone was supporting him v Newcastle

Those who can remember back to last season he can ball play before the line and at the line for a couple of try assists

The Forum tends to want to eat everyone whenever we have a few loses

TBH I think his ball playing has diminished this season. There have been alot of times he can go out the back to Brooksy or Benji but instead holds the ball and gets tackled. He attracts numbers into the tackles, just needs to release it when he's at the line to expose those edges.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

 

[TYGA]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

MCK is a bench player for 25 minutes a game I can Live with that but we need Packer back so Eiso can play off the bench against tiring forwards where he is more effective.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Should be nicknamed Mount Eisenhuth!
I like the variety he provides, as happy said he can ball play at the line, I think with the desperation of trying to stay up the top the team had shelved a little of their tricks, there was one instance where Eisenhuth could of gone out wide to the right against Parra, like we did last year for an Essan Marsters try at Leichhardt but instead he took the tackle.
Cleary likes a mix in his Front row a bit of impact with stability.
Grant is a similar player to Eisenhuth and Twal and I’d say due to risk of not having a balance of impact and stability that’s why his not playing.

I don't think they are similar at all tbh mate.
Grant (at his best) charges hard, is slow laterally, can be lazy at marker and defends well front on.
Twal Is a prodigy nearly 100% effective in defence, does his job in attack. Never seen him do two bad things in a game.
The huth has a better passing game than both, but can be easily put on his back or fall off a tackle. Best value is long minutes, because he is fit enough to be consistent for twice as long as Grant and 50% longer than Twal, and I think he is better suited as a lock with a licence to pass the ball. The other two are only suited to prop.

Just to be clear, he makes some great runs and defence is mostly solid, but he can get dominated on his first hit up or two and that can set the tone.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[WestsBenTigers]

Should be nicknamed Mount Eisenhuth!
I like the variety he provides, as happy said he can ball play at the line, I think with the desperation of trying to stay up the top the team had shelved a little of their tricks, there was one instance where Eisenhuth could of gone out wide to the right against Parra, like we did last year for an Essan Marsters try at Leichhardt but instead he took the tackle.
Cleary likes a mix in his Front row a bit of impact with stability.
Grant is a similar player to Eisenhuth and Twal and I’d say due to risk of not having a balance of impact and stability that’s why his not playing.

I don't think they are similar at all tbh mate.
Grant (at his best) charges hard, is slow laterally, can be lazy at marker and defends well front on.
Twal Is a prodigy nearly 100% effective in defence, does his job in attack. Never seen him do two bad things in a game.
The huth has a better passing game than both, but can be easily put on his back or fall off a tackle. Best value is long minutes, because he is fit enough to be consistent for twice as long as Grant and 50% longer than Twal, and I think he is better suited as a lock with a licence to pass the ball. The other two are only suited to prop.

Just to be clear, he makes some great runs and defence is mostly solid, but he can get dominated on his first hit up or two and that can set the tone.

Just my opinion of course.

Well said

 

[TYGA]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Yeah he is over rated. Hes shown potential but hasnt completely delivered as yet. Playing Prop definitely isnt going to help.

I like him as a bench player he just lacks power and mongrel. When everyone is fit I’m not sure he is in the team. Lock is ET and props need to be Mats, Packer, Twal, Aloai.

 

[Russell]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

MCK is a bench player for 25 minutes a game I can Live with that but we need Packer back so Eiso can play off the bench against tiring forwards where he is more effective.

Well if he is "TYGA" - he needs to do a lot more in his 25 minutes than he has been doing lately.

No real impact at all of late - The "Beast" has turned into a marshmallow. Not that he was ever a beast in the first place.

 

[southerntiger]

I prefer Hooth at lock than prop.

I would also like IC to be saying to Hooth that sometimes less is more in attack. Hooth takes a few too many hit ups close to the opposition line for my liking.

 

[TYGA]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

MCK is a bench player for 25 minutes a game I can Live with that but we need Packer back so Eiso can play off the bench against tiring forwards where he is more effective.

Well if he is "TYGA" - he needs to do a lot more in his 25 minutes than he has been doing lately.

No real impact at all of late - The "Beast" has turned into a marshmallow. Not that he was ever a beast in the first place.

MCK started the season well but he’s back to his usual inconsistent performances. He’s had long enough if he continues he wasn’t make it back. There are a few really regressing lately MCK, Rochow, Goodinet, Nofa, Eiso. Aside from injuries this is our problem.

 

[Geo]

Harsh…on the Huth..

 

[happy_tiger]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

x 2 GNR

Just don't see what everyone sees in him

Good ball runner is about it , watched the highlights when I went out for lunch , the play from the penalty was embarrassing Under 13 stuff when he tries the lift the leg , falls off and they offload to score

If that was Brooks , Nofoaluma , Lawrence they would of been publicly castrated

 

[Russell]

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

MCK is a bench player for 25 minutes a game I can Live with that but we need Packer back so Eiso can play off the bench against tiring forwards where he is more effective.

Well if he is "TYGA" - he needs to do a lot more in his 25 minutes than he has been doing lately.

No real impact at all of late - The "Beast" has turned into a marshmallow. Not that he was ever a beast in the first place.

MCK started the season well but he’s back to his usual inconsistent performances. He’s had long enough if he continues he wasn’t make it back. There are a few really regressing lately MCK, Rochow, Goodinet, Nofa, Eiso. Aside from injuries this is our problem.

I think part of the problem has been Packer, Lawrence and Taylor missing (not all at once thank God) an so the lesser forwards like MCK, Rochow and Eiso have struggled a bit more because the go forward has not been as strong.

Of course it has made it a bit harder for the halves as well and in turn the outside backs (almost a domino affect).

With Liddle struggling with time on the field and with carrying the sternum injury - Godinet is our next best hooker, I can't see how others can't see that. People calling for McIlwrick obviously want to kill any attack we have. He is good in defence but does not run from DH and his pass is slow and usually not directed to the right spot. Taylor is not that crash hot either.
We have been basically playing the best we have at the time. It is the attitude, concentration and enthusiasm that needs to be picked up. (Rant over) Lol.

 

[Geo]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

x 2 GNR

Just don't see what everyone sees in him

Good ball runner is about it , watched the highlights when I went out for lunch , the play from the penalty was embarrassing Under 13 stuff when he tries the lift the leg , falls off and they offload to score

If that was Brooks , Nofoaluma , Lawrence they would of been publicly castrated

I watched it again too..what was worse is the Wanna be Beast just stood and watched after..no effort to shift out even if he couldn't do much..it's not what this team is about..

 

[happy_tiger]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

x 2 GNR

Just don't see what everyone sees in him

Good ball runner is about it , watched the highlights when I went out for lunch , the play from the penalty was embarrassing Under 13 stuff when he tries the lift the leg , falls off and they offload to score

If that was Brooks , Nofoaluma , Lawrence they would of been publicly castrated

I watched it again too..what was worse is the Wanna be Beast just stood and watched after..no effort to shift out even if he couldn't do much..it's not what this team is about..

He can't be part of our best 17 once Packer and Reynolds are back can he ??

 

[tigerbill]

He can find a hole

Last two games he has found a hole once for a try , once he would have had a try assist if anyone was supporting him v Newcastle

Those who can remember back to last season he can ball play before the line and at the line for a couple of try assists

The Forum tends to want to eat everyone whenever we have a few loses

I laughed at this. He didnt find a hole. A chasm opened up and he JOGGED through it. Had nothing to do with him.

 

[TYGA]

MCK is a bench player for 25 minutes a game I can Live with that but we need Packer back so Eiso can play off the bench against tiring forwards where he is more effective.

Well if he is "TYGA" - he needs to do a lot more in his 25 minutes than he has been doing lately.

No real impact at all of late - The "Beast" has turned into a marshmallow. Not that he was ever a beast in the first place.

MCK started the season well but he’s back to his usual inconsistent performances. He’s had long enough if he continues he wasn’t make it back. There are a few really regressing lately MCK, Rochow, Goodinet, Nofa, Eiso. Aside from injuries this is our problem.

I think part of the problem has been Packer, Lawrence and Taylor missing (not all at once thank God) an so the lesser forwards like MCK, Rochow and Eiso have struggled a bit more because the go forward has not been as strong.

Of course it has made it a bit harder for the halves as well and in turn the outside backs (almost a domino affect).

With Liddle struggling with time on the field and with carrying the sternum injury - Godinet is our next best hooker, I can't see how others can't see that. People calling for McIlwrick obviously want to kill any attack we have. He is good in defence but does not run from DH and his pass is slow and usually not directed to the right spot. Taylor is not that crash hot either.
We have been basically playing the best we have at the time. It is the attitude, concentration and enthusiasm that needs to be picked up. (Rant over) Lol.

Good summary spot on.

 

[Needaname]

Eiso is easily the most overrated player in the forum. He is a hard worker but gets dominated every hitup, zero impact, no offload and a slow play the ball.

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

x 2 GNR

Just don't see what everyone sees in him

Good ball runner is about it , watched the highlights when I went out for lunch , the play from the penalty was embarrassing Under 13 stuff when he tries the lift the leg , falls off and they offload to score

If that was Brooks , Nofoaluma , Lawrence they would of been publicly castrated

I watched it again too..what was worse is the Wanna be Beast just stood and watched after..no effort to shift out even if he couldn't do much..it's not what this team is about..

Enough with the nicknames…
Who is the wanna be beast?

 

[Demps]

Got to be kidding. Chee Kam wins that award in a canter.

x 2 GNR

Just don't see what everyone sees in him

Good ball runner is about it , watched the highlights when I went out for lunch , the play from the penalty was embarrassing Under 13 stuff when he tries the lift the leg , falls off and they offload to score

If that was Brooks , Nofoaluma , Lawrence they would of been publicly castrated

I watched it again too..what was worse is the Wanna be Beast just stood and watched after..no effort to shift out even if he couldn't do much..it's not what this team is about..

Enough with the nicknames…
Who is the wanna be beast?

Mck

 

[jirskyr]

He can find a hole

Last two games he has found a hole once for a try , once he would have had a try assist if anyone was supporting him v Newcastle

Those who can remember back to last season he can ball play before the line and at the line for a couple of try assists

The Forum tends to want to eat everyone whenever we have a few loses

I laughed at this. He didnt find a hole. A chasm opened up and he JOGGED through it. Had nothing to do with him.

You actually miss the point bill, that's the beauty of that play. It was indeed a chasm, because Parra totally over-read the play, didn't think Hooth was a threat.

So in that respect he ran a great line - he wasn't an obvious ball receiver, he picked his mark against the grain, he gave Brooks a legitimate flat-pass option right on the advantage line.

Nobody, nobody, nobody who runs through a defensive line untouched, with not a single defender slipping or having some unusual calamity, does so by accident.

In fact if we could find a forward who can "accidentally" find his way untouched to the try line, well sign that happy ignorant lemming up.

 

[jirskyr]

Also lemme say I personally think Hooth is down on 2017\. Not bad, just less effective in his hitups, because he's not fast and he seems to go into the tackle less aggressively than last year IMO.

I agree with many folks that if he stepped up his intensity a little, gave himself the chance to offload, he's be more threat in the tackle.

However we don't actually know his instructions from the coach. Sometimes if a player has a known skillset, but isn't using it, it's not the player but the coach's instructions. For example, it's possible that since Cleary has shifted Hooth to prop this year, he's given him a different role. Cleary may not want Hooth to look for offloads at this time. Offloads this year tend to come from the backs rather than the forwards, and that may be instructed.

Perhaps Hooth's hitups are less aggressive because Cleary needs him to play bigger minutes? This may be especially true when considering some key injuries in the forwards this year, esp how many of those players give big minutes.

I agree I think Hooth is a better lock than prop, but Cleary isn't using him that way typically. It may still take Hooth some months to adjust to the changed workload, just like how it's taken Rowdy time to adjust to his backrow role. Hooth obviously has a rep-quality lock in front of him in the first-choice team.

But also Hooth has never been a Round 1 starting pack footballer before, so he still has to adjust to those demands. He might be almost 26 but he doesn't have much NRL experience.

Compare to Twaly - great young footballer, only 21, played around the same # games as Hooth, but never yet started a match in his young career.