OFFICIAL Elijah Taylor [Discussion]

@Geo. said:
"All of our forwards can pass and we've really hammered that during the pre-season. Especially with defences so hard to break, that extra little skill factor could change a game."

So sick of this Taylorball. No wonder Paul Sironen said his son had to leave to get some ballplay.
 
@Masterton said:
@Geo. said:
"All of our forwards can pass and we've really hammered that during the pre-season. Especially with defences so hard to break, that extra little skill factor could change a game."

So sick of this Taylorball. No wonder Paul Sironen said his son had to leave to get some ballplay.

Generally you have to be going forward to have success when you swing it wide. Sironen could have helped establish this forward momentum, but preferred standing out wide bludging and letting someone else do the dirty work.
The tigers need to start moving away from these highlight reel players and focus on a core group of players that are prepared to roll their sleeves up and put in the hard work.
 
@Masterton said:
@Geo. said:
"All of our forwards can pass and we've really hammered that during the pre-season. Especially with defences so hard to break, that extra little skill factor could change a game."

So sick of this Taylorball. No wonder Paul Sironen said his son had to leave to get some ballplay.

Young siro was lazy. He was a forward without drive to do his job
 
This is good news ET is just brilliant as a ball player and he plays 80 so our back row has two 80 minute players in ET & Lawrence.
 
@Fade To Black said:
@TYGA said:
This is good news ET is just brilliant as a ball player and he plays 80 so our back row has two 80 minute players in ET & Lawrence.

Not sold on how effective Lawrence is over 80 minutes though.

Agree but he does at least run a good line in attack I think Aloai will become our best second rower this year.
If the roster doesn't change Sue will play in the front toe with Woods.

Interesting that 3 Sydney clubs are chasing Chris McQueen. He would be ideal to replace Lawrence.
 
@TYGA said:
@Fade To Black said:
@TYGA said:
This is good news ET is just brilliant as a ball player and he plays 80 so our back row has two 80 minute players in ET & Lawrence.

Not sold on how effective Lawrence is over 80 minutes though.

Agree but he does at least run a good line in attack I think Aloai will become our best second rower this year.
If the roster doesn't change Sue will play in the front toe with Woods.

Interesting that 3 Sydney clubs are chasing Chris McQueen. He would be ideal to replace Lawrence.

I really think Lawrence should be playing no more thank 50 minutes. I love the guy and you know your going to get 110%, but i really think getting one of the younger guys on while he gets a breather is the way to go.
 
@TYGA said:
@Fade To Black said:
@TYGA said:
This is good news ET is just brilliant as a ball player and he plays 80 so our back row has two 80 minute players in ET & Lawrence.

Not sold on how effective Lawrence is over 80 minutes though.

Agree but he does at least run a good line in attack I think Aloai will become our best second rower this year.
If the roster doesn't change Sue will play in the front toe with Woods.

Interesting that 3 Sydney clubs are chasing Chris McQueen. He would be ideal to replace Lawrence.

Lawrence does run good lines but perhaps if he varied it up a little instead of just running the outside-in one where he just gets smashed by the defence because they know 100% that is where he is headed, especially on those decoy runs he always seems to get lumped with. He gets annihilated every time and you would have to think it takes a massive toll on his body which is why he usually loses his effectiveness. He is too tough for his own good, would like to see some of the other bigger blokes take their share to ease his punishment a bit.
As for McQueen, he would be handy but wouldn't be worth the hefty price tag he would be asking for. He will no doubt end up at the Roosters, they always have a spare $600 000 laying around somehow.
 
@Tiger4life said:
@TYGA said:
@Fade To Black said:
@TYGA said:
This is good news ET is just brilliant as a ball player and he plays 80 so our back row has two 80 minute players in ET & Lawrence.

Not sold on how effective Lawrence is over 80 minutes though.

Agree but he does at least run a good line in attack I think Aloai will become our best second rower this year.
If the roster doesn't change Sue will play in the front toe with Woods.

Interesting that 3 Sydney clubs are chasing Chris McQueen. He would be ideal to replace Lawrence.

I really think Lawrence should be playing no more thank 50 minutes. I love the guy and you know your going to get 110%, but i really think getting one of the younger guys on while he gets a breather is the way to go.

If they are going to play him 80min, they should consider giving him a week off every now and then.
 
@Masterton said:
@Tiger4life said:
@TYGA said:
@Fade To Black said:
Not sold on how effective Lawrence is over 80 minutes though.

Agree but he does at least run a good line in attack I think Aloai will become our best second rower this year.
If the roster doesn't change Sue will play in the front toe with Woods.

Interesting that 3 Sydney clubs are chasing Chris McQueen. He would be ideal to replace Lawrence.

I really think Lawrence should be playing no more thank 50 minutes. I love the guy and you know your going to get 110%, but i really think getting one of the younger guys on while he gets a breather is the way to go.

If they are going to play him 80min, they should consider giving him a week off every now and then.

Exactly what i said months ago. He either plays 60 minutes a week or they monitor him and give him a weeks rest to freshen him up every now and then. We cant have him fall away late in the year like he did in 2016.

On Elijah, his performance on Friday night is the first thing to get me really excited. He was unbelievable IMO.

When he was unsigned i said i didnt care if he stayed. His form fell away late in the year and i didnt know if we could carry just a small backrower who makes 40 tackles. But if he plays like he did on Friday he will be the most influential forward in the game. He basically played 3 position all in one. His ball playing was great and fast, his defence was superb, and when he just got the ball and ran hard he made as good as yards as any other middle player. 80 minutes of Brooks and Moses playing off that every week will be brilliant to watch.

The Tigers showed glimpses last year of changing the game. Every now and then a new style comes into shake the game up. A few games last year we made deliberate efforts to promote the ball through our forwards and then our young backs played off the back of that instinctively. It broke down the structured defences. The way our forwards played lead by Woods and Taylor showed the intentions of Jason Taylor and its a formula that could turn Rugby League back to the entertaining days.
 
@king sirro said:
When he was unsigned i said i didnt care if he stayed. His form fell away late in the year and i didnt know if we could carry just a small backrower who makes 40 tackles.

I suspect that his perceived drop in form was just a ploy to get Moses to take more control.
 
@king sirro said:
Exactly what i said months ago. He either plays 60 minutes a week or they monitor him and give him a weeks rest to freshen him up every now and then. We cant have him fall away late in the year like he did in 2016.

On Elijah, his performance on Friday night is the first thing to get me really excited. He was unbelievable IMO.

When he was unsigned i said i didnt care if he stayed. His form fell away late in the year and i didnt know if we could carry just a small backrower who makes 40 tackles. But if he plays like he did on Friday he will be the most influential forward in the game. He basically played 3 position all in one. His ball playing was great and fast, his defence was superb, and when he just got the ball and ran hard he made as good as yards as any other middle player. 80 minutes of Brooks and Moses playing off that every week will be brilliant to watch.

The Tigers showed glimpses last year of changing the game. Every now and then a new style comes into shake the game up. A few games last year we made deliberate efforts to promote the ball through our forwards and then our young backs played off the back of that instinctively. It broke down the structured defences. The way our forwards played lead by Woods and Taylor showed the intentions of Jason Taylor and its a formula that could turn Rugby League back to the entertaining days.

Wasn't a doubt in my mind that he needed to be kept…I just presumed you were having a Heighington moment....
 
ET made a huge difference for the second half of the 2016 season without a full pre season building combinations. His leadership is great and he just works very hard. He will have a big year. Our issues are at hooker and in the centres. Our back row will be fine ET, Sue and Aloai are good players. I am hoping a youngster overtakes Lawrence through form.
 
@Geo. said:
@king sirro said:
Exactly what i said months ago. He either plays 60 minutes a week or they monitor him and give him a weeks rest to freshen him up every now and then. We cant have him fall away late in the year like he did in 2016.

On Elijah, his performance on Friday night is the first thing to get me really excited. He was unbelievable IMO.

When he was unsigned i said i didnt care if he stayed. His form fell away late in the year and i didnt know if we could carry just a small backrower who makes 40 tackles. But if he plays like he did on Friday he will be the most influential forward in the game. He basically played 3 position all in one. His ball playing was great and fast, his defence was superb, and when he just got the ball and ran hard he made as good as yards as any other middle player. 80 minutes of Brooks and Moses playing off that every week will be brilliant to watch.

The Tigers showed glimpses last year of changing the game. Every now and then a new style comes into shake the game up. A few games last year we made deliberate efforts to promote the ball through our forwards and then our young backs played off the back of that instinctively. It broke down the structured defences. The way our forwards played lead by Woods and Taylor showed the intentions of Jason Taylor and its a formula that could turn Rugby League back to the entertaining days.

Wasn't a doubt in my mind that he needed to be kept…I just presumed you were having a Heighington moment....

I loved Heighno, great player. Also loved Runciman, Nick Graham and Chris Patterson.

Thankfully Elijah is another class.

I love that we are going to be the club that brings back the ball playing lock instead of the boring 3rd front rower. Love it.
 
High rate ball movement among the forwards ala Bulldogs a few years back.
High risk but very effective when accomplished successfuly
 
It's refreshing having seeing an old fashioned ball playing lock as opposed to the third prop style lock that is the norm these days.
 
He will no doubt end up at the Roosters, they always have a spare $600 000 laying around somehow.

Loose change hiding in the couch doesn't count as salary cap, obviously :unamused:
 
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