OFFICIAL Elijah Taylor [Discussion]

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah's comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and ….... over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

oh byron bay i have to take u to task on ur comment ( such a remarkable woman) she was the worse PM this country has ever had and she put woman back 20 years with all that crap that came out of her mouth. ur entitled to ur opinion but i had to comment.

Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

 

[Sco77y]

Not sure I buy the info regarding the reasons for moving on Robbie. He was on shaky ground last year too, before Elijah Taylor was even on the scene, therefore I don't know why Farah's plans for next season would have anything to do with ET. None of this has been confirmed of course - as far as we know he isn't being moved on at all, he's only been dropped to reserve grade for performance reasons (more so his compatibility with the team I would think). Another point regarding this quote: ".. Boards generally don't like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest." (Assuming this is referring to Farah) - If the club were so dodgy as to drop Robbie in the hope he would leave the club, surely the comments he apparently made would be grounds for dismissal?

I don't know.. I don't think any of us will ever really find out what has gone on with this situation..

It's hard to know anything in the abstract but making a sexist joke about the CEO of a club wouldn't likely be grounds for termination of a playing contract. It would be a very bad move on the part of the club to try and terminate on that basis when it's already known to Farah (and the public) that the club are trying to move him on. If they were going to try and terminate for breach (and avoid paying him) then they would want to be on rock solid ground.

Perhaps not, it would depend on the degree of the comment though. I just don't believe that the club are trying to move him on to clear salary cap space.

 

[Nelson]

I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah's comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and ….... over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

oh byron bay i have to take u to task on ur comment ( such a remarkable woman) she was the worse PM this country has ever had and she put woman back 20 years with all that crap that came out of her mouth. ur entitled to ur opinion but i had to comment.

Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

She was an effective politician which doesn't mean she was likeable, or necessarily honourable, or that she always said the right thing, but she did get things done.

 

[cktiger]

To paraphrase…

So in summary **Farah was** **in fact dropped to force his hand** in an attempt to 'find' $450k to sign ET. The club is very confident they will achieve this with a final decision on Farah's future to be known before the semis.
But I repeat he won't be here next year, **he has burnt some bridges with people of greater influence than Jason Taylor**! All I can say is that in 2016 coaches are accountable to CEOs / Boards, and Boards generally don't like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest.

So much for all the lies spewed out by Jason Taylor about cohesion and performance being the reasons Farah was dropped.
Prompted by the board, obviously, to save his own job.
As for the board - what a bunch of lily livered weaklings.
Whether you like him or not Farah is a club legend - you think they would have the guts to come out and tell the truth.
Farah deserves it and so do the supporters and sponsors.

 

[Newtown]

I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah's comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and ….... over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

oh byron bay i have to take u to task on ur comment ( such a remarkable woman) she was the worse PM this country has ever had and she put woman back 20 years with all that crap that came out of her mouth. ur entitled to ur opinion but i had to comment.

Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

How did Kevin Rudd compare with Julia?

 

[balmain boy]

Earlier in the year I posted the club's top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O'Neill's arrival….

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles. Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

 

[tiger05premier]

TT thanks for update any news on JAC possibly staying and all those juniors Balmain Boy mentioned

 

[stevetiger]

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2\. The whole Robbie debacle is about money.

Quote Tiger Torch: "…Robbie.........won't be here next year, he has burnt some bridges with people of greater influence than Jason Taylor!"

Steve...? this doesn't sound like the Robbie we know...?

I never said he was perfect. I'm sure even you have burned some bridges in your past.

 

[tigerman80]

Than you Tiger Torch for confirming what most rational people on here already knew about the Farah situation. As you said:

"So in summary Farah was in fact dropped to force his hand to find the $450k to sign ET"

Yet the Farah haters still clutch at straws. In regards to JT can you confirm or deny that if we dont make the semis, JT is no longer contracted. Also are you saying that if Cleary comes down in price we would have signed him already?Id hate to lose him to the Warriors or dragons if they let their coaches go.

 

[magpiecol]

I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah's comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and ….... over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

oh byron bay i have to take u to task on ur comment ( such a remarkable woman) she was the worse PM this country has ever had and she put woman back 20 years with all that crap that came out of her mouth. ur entitled to ur opinion but i had to comment.

Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

She was an effective politician which doesn't mean she was likeable, or necessarily honourable, or that she always said the right thing, but she did get things done.

Rudd and Gillard. No.1 and No.2 on the worst Prime Minister list.

They got things done alright. Put us in debt until the cows come home.

:roll :roll

 

[stevetiger]

To paraphrase…

So in summary **Farah was** **in fact dropped to force his hand** in an attempt to 'find' $450k to sign ET. The club is very confident they will achieve this with a final decision on Farah's future to be known before the semis.
But I repeat he won't be here next year, **he has burnt some bridges with people of greater influence than Jason Taylor**! All I can say is that in 2016 coaches are accountable to CEOs / Boards, and Boards generally don't like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest.

So much for all the lies spewed out by Jason Taylor about cohesion and performance being the reasons Farah was dropped.
Prompted by the board, obviously, to save his own job.
As for the board - what a bunch of lily livered weaklings.
Whether you like him or not Farah is a club legend - you think they would have the guts to come out and tell the truth.
Farah deserves it and so do the supporters and sponsors.

They can't say the truth because it looks and it is really poor. It goes to show though how bad decisions can influence a club for a long time. Robbie should never have been signed on a massive 4 year contract.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

 

[stevetiger]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

I can see Milone causing problems to our cap in a couple of years time.

 

[Muffstar]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

maybe Woods instead of Milone ?

 

[tigerman80]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

I can see Milone causing problems to our cap in a couple of years time.

I heard Milone is next in line for the number 9\. Getting a 4 year back ended contract lol

I think Ballin is the number 3 in our top 4.

 

[boonboon]

Earlier in the year I posted the club's top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O'Neill's arrival….

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

**And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles.** Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

The club doesn't choose who to promote to a top 25\. It is based simply and purely on who is in the top 25 paid players. This is why Milone was promoted because he was on a contract including TPA's is my understanding for more the anyone else left. This makes some sense because he had played FG before 2016 unlike the rest who were below him and also my understanding is he actually has a TPA from a 3rd part sponsor who is friends of the famiy which boosts him up and hence makes him top 25 money. It doesen't matter who has more potential or who has played better in 2016

 

[LARDS]

Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; **Cherrington**; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!

I thought Cherrington was gone to sharks for next year?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; **Cherrington**; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!

I thought Cherrington was gone to sharks for next year?

He's talking about the squad for this yr.

 

[Nelson]

Rudd and Gillard. No.1 and No.2 on the worst Prime Minister list.

They got things done alright. Put us in debt until the cows come home.

:roll :roll

Yeah I'm not commenting on the policies, just the ability to get things done. Being a negotiator in that role is a lot more effective than being a brawler when you don't have the numbers. Anyway, this is about as off topic as it gets so I'll stop talking about it now…

 

[Regan]

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