'Faceless Men'

Geo

Moderator
Staff member
Forum Leader
Ben Ikin implores ‘faceless’ Western Suburbs powerbrokers to step up for sake of Wests Tigers

Ben Glover
March 22, 2017 4:52pm
BEN GLOVER@glover_benny
Source: FOX SPORTS
IN the wake of the Jason Taylor sacking the loudest “representatives” of the Wests Tigers have been Balmain legends with no real influence.

But as was recently hit home by Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s rise to the US presidency, the silent majority is where the true power lies and that’s undoubtedly become the case at the Tigers.

While the board’s independent chair Marina Go and the club’s CEO Justin Pascoe were the public face for Taylor’s unceremonious dumping this week, the decision was almost certainly made by the five board members who represent the Western Suburbs side of the joint venture.

“Faceless powerbrokers”, according to NRL 360 host Ben Ikin, who says it’s about time they emerge from the shadows to articulate their vision for the club.

“You know what I hate in politics, business, and even more so in rugby league? Faceless powerbrokers who don’t show themselves,” Ikin said on the Fox Sports Market Watch podcast.

“The Western Suburbs faction on that Wests Tigers board need to put their hands up, show themselves, one of them take the chair role, so we know who’s running the club.”

Only then, says Ikin, will a leadership structure that’s been in place for several years be truly held accountable.

The Wests Tigers board used to be a half and half split of representatives from the Balmain side and the Western Suburbs side of the joint venture. That changed when the NRL was forced to bail the club out of trouble due to the financially-crippled Balmain side of the club.

The bail out came with conditions, some of which are reflected by the make-up of the board.

These days Wests have five board members, who sit alongside two Balmain board members and two independents, one of whom is chair Marina Go.

No major decision can be made about the club without the say so of the Wests power bloc but many fans wouldn’t know the names of any one of those five board members.

Introducing Simon Cook, Mike Bailey, Tony Andreacchio, Michael Liubinskas and Russell Smith.

These are the men who hold the balance of power at a club that seems to lurch from one crisis to the next, with no clear road map to pull it out of its funk.

Look at any NRL club, perhaps apart from Manly, that has had sustained success over the past decade and there’s a clear figurehead who holds the power.

According to Ikin that’s what needs to happen at the Tigers for poor governance to be held to account so the club can move forward.

“You know who the real leader is everywhere else,” Ikin said.

“I mean, Nick Politis runs the Roosters, Ray Dib runs the Bulldogs, Bart Campbell runs the Melbourne Storm, Lawrence Lancini runs the North Queensland Cowboys.

“Who’s running the show at the Wests Tigers?

“Someone, or at least a group of people, who are actually making these decisions, they have to step forward and make themselves known to the public because this is a high profile business and the number one stakeholder is the fans — the people who invest in that club to keep it alive.

“They turn up each and every week and they deserve to know who is pulling the strings at their club.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/ben-ikin-implores-faceless-western-suburbs-powerbrokers-to-step-up-for-sake-of-wests-tigers/news-story/4141df1a3d2a120a19f46c31aed89ce7
 
David Smith appointed Go.
Any installed by that guy had to go.

What I don't get is why would Wests side of the faction ditch Taylor, he is a magpies old boy and was staunchly backed by the weatherman.

What Ikin is saying doesn't add up.
 
@ said:
David Smith appointed Go.
Any installed by that guy had to go.

What I don't get is why would Wests side of the faction ditch Taylor, he is a magpies old boy and was staunchly backed by the weatherman.

What Ikin is saying doesn't add up.

"No more jobs for the boys" should be the motto for the club.i dont care if they are best mates from way back only people with the best interests for WT should be appointed.Taylor was always a jobs for the boys appointment imo.
 
@ said:
The weatherman is a proven failure. Why is he still there?

Because wests hold the power. Article explains it.
Simon Cook is an old Balmain High school buddy of mine and he was never a magpies supporter. Tiger through and through being a Balmain boy.

Many parts of this article don't up though.
 
I forgot Bailey was there, wasn't he part of the old board?? They all should have been sacked….
 
@ said:
@ said:
David Smith appointed Go.
Any installed by that guy had to go.

What I don't get is why would Wests side of the faction ditch Taylor, he is a magpies old boy and was staunchly backed by the weatherman.

What Ikin is saying doesn't add up.

"No more jobs for the boys" should be the motto for the club.i dont care if they are best mates from way back only people with the best interests for WT should be appointed.Taylor was always a jobs for the boys appointment imo.

If it's Job for the boys then why did wests get accused of being the faceless men who ultimately fired their boy?
I love making fun and ridiculing Magpies for a laugh but this doesn't make sense.

Anything to deflect from the real reasons, like the players influence.
 
but many fans wouldn’t know the names of any one of those five board members

Same for every club I'd safely bet.

Yep, Bart Campbell & Larry Lanchini… Household names.

I take his point though... Liam Fulton said similar in today's paper... If Liam thinks this way it's good enough for me.

I remember people saying how good it would be when neutral Go was appointed, things would be fair and even yada yada.

I don't pretend to know much on boards at its never interested me, the 80 minute on the field my main concern, but surely there would be a former WT ... Someone that knows what we're about could com run and fill the role?.. I'm not sure what obligations if any the club agreed to when Go was installed?
Anyone?
 
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.
 
@ said:
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.

I thought the NRL were supposed to install an appropriate chair and independent director. They presumably selected these people on their suitability for the role at our club, and being the NRL you'd think they'd have some sort of idea of what would work or not. Makes me wonder if this really is where the clubs issues originate? The independents or the Wests side, or both? If these problems are truely coming from the board then that's really disappointing given the last one we had was a basket case and this one was supposed to replace that and lead us into the future.
 
I don't think Ikin is totally wrong with his commentary, but there is no reason why a single powerful figurehead has to lead a club. It's a nice idea but a committee with a competent chairperson can do it just fine, that's how many businesses run.

Also the way our club works, the chairperson has always rotated, we aren't able to have a single powerbroker in charge for 20 years.

I can tell you the company I work for, we have over 10,000 employees globally and we are listed; I couldn't tell you the name of a single board member. But the CEO, I know exactly who he is, he runs our operations and the money guys on the board do their own thing. And if the board moved to sack the CEO, I'd probably still not find out who they were, just who the new CEO is.

In other words it's great to have a Nick Politis if you have one, but some clubs just do not. I mean he rattled off 4 or 5, who "runs" the board at the Knights, or Titans, or Dragons, or Raiders?

And then if you do have a major powerbroker, what happens when he's no longer the right person for the job and you can't remove him, too powerful?
 
@ said:
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.

Go was originally appointed by the Old Wests and Balmain board members from a list of 9 candidates supplied on the recommendations from the NRL for agreeing to the NRL funding the Balmain debt..along with 2 other Independent Directors

She was then re-appointed to the position of Chair when Wests Ashfield took 75% ownership and governance changed to the current Board structure…
 
@ said:
@ said:
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.

I thought the NRL were supposed to install an appropriate chair and independent director. They presumably selected these people on their suitability for the role at our club, and being the NRL you'd think they'd have some sort of idea of what would work or not. Makes me wonder if this really is where the clubs issues originate? The independents or the Wests side, or both? If these problems are truely coming from the board then that's really disappointing given the last one we had was a basket case and this one was supposed to replace that and lead us into the future.

It's on record Dave Smith appointed Go and others to have women in the board. No issue with this but they hired a journalist to be chair. It doesn't matter now as the Wests Ashfield directors make all the calls. I have no idea how competent they are but if the last year is any gauge we are screwed unless a Chair, CEO and coach with great rugby league pedigree are employed to run the show.

The board should only be there for oversight and key decisions.

From what I can see they have to fire Go, Pascoe and replace the other independent director with Rugby League People.
 
@ said:
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.

I don't think not sacking him in the off season was a major fault. He'd taken them from 15th to 9th. They didn't have a clear trigger to do it. Those two shocking losses handed them the opportunity to punt him and to not cop much blowback from it.
 
@ said:
@ said:
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.

I don't think not sacking him in the off season was a major fault. He'd taken them from 15th to 9th. They didn't have a clear trigger to do it. Those two shocking losses handed them the opportunity to punt him and to not cop much blowback from it.

If they sacked JT in the offseason and signed Cleary and the 4 off contract there would be zero drama. That would take a club with pros running it though.
 
Every body wanted Taylor sacked ..is sacked and the people that did it now are the villains include probable the 4 best players in the club ..I really think that a lot here have to take something and lay down for a while .
It is irrelevant when it happened it has happened move on ….
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
They are not faceless men directors of Wests Ashfield who bailed us out of NRL ownership which, appointed Go, JT and caused this disaster. Their major fault was not sacking JT in the offseason. The board needs a chairperson and independent director with extensive Rugby League experience and eventually Balmain back.

I don't think not sacking him in the off season was a major fault. He'd taken them from 15th to 9th. They didn't have a clear trigger to do it. Those two shocking losses handed them the opportunity to punt him and to not cop much blowback from it.

If they sacked JT in the offseason and signed Cleary and the 4 off contract there would be zero drama. That would take a club with pros running it though.

That would have been understandable. Sack in the off season and have a new coach for Rd 1\. No drama.
I'm only complaining about the sacking because it's definitely killed out season before it even had a chance.
I'm already looking at 2018.
2017 is the spoon we needed to have. I'm even taking the $10 on offer. It's a good bet looking at our rabble.
 

Latest posts

Staff online

Back
Top