Farah wants football to do his talking..

[Tigermama]

Wish we had more Robbie's in the team. We would be unbeatable then. The man never gives up, and always does his best. Love him.

 

[happy_tiger]

I wasn't taking it personally Tony , I just said don't be afraid to quote me personally

We all have different opinions and your a massive Robbie supporter and so am I

**But I'd rather see what Robbie is going to do on the field , not in the tabloids**

The one thing I hope JT does is push this theme

Actions speak louder than words :sign:

You know what the amusing thing is….If you actually read the article that is What Robbie is actually saying ...I'll quote it for you in case you missed it.....

Hopefully _focused on just playing footy and not getting too involved with everything that's written. Stuff is always going to be written. If we start losing a couple of games in a row people will start writing stuff. But you've got to believe in the group here and believe in what you're doing right as a team._

_I'll add that he is the Captain of our Club...In this age we want our players to be available to the Media the fans want to know what's happening...\
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Actions speak louder than words... hmmm Well that's true ...Farah on the field gives his all for the WESTS Tigers every time....\
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Perhaps when talking to the Media in future He could go down the NFL line for you Happy.....YOU KNOW WHY I"M HERE...._

_He could already go down the NFL line Geo because we seem to have a repeat button where our players say the same thing year in year out\
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And again people misconstrue what I have said\
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Have I knocked Farah the player no , well only if you think playing Cherrington off the bench is knocking the guy\
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Maybe it might extend his career\
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Take some of your own advice occasionally Geo\
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Read what is said first_

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

No.

He is not saying that in the interview.

If he had of come out and said Taylor wants us to focus on defence. Defence is all about attitude and our attitude at the back end of last year was the worst in the clubs dismal history.

People with the same opinion as myself might be able to accept he understands where he went wrong and we could all move on.

It will never happen though because he will never admit he was at fault.

Last I checked

"For us and JT defence is our No.1 priority," Farah said. "You never go out there to concede points, but last year for one reason or another we fell away with our D. There were a couple of games there where we had some really big blowouts. That's disappointing when you let the scoreboard get away from you.
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"If you're going to lose you want to walk off with your head held high. We are working on our structure and different sort of things that can help us in D.
>
"When a new coach comes in with new ideas, we need to adapt to that and buy into it. "We make mistakes some times because it's new to us, but each day we are reviewing it and seeing where we went wrong and where we can get better."

Also….. In a team sport I don't believe 1 Player is responsible for the whole defensive attitude...even in the games we were pumped more often than not Farah topped the tackle count...

Geo the problem last year was rumors that there was players in the team who felt Farah was being a dog and white anted potter and that as a captain he should show some balls.Some simple clowns on here say oh but Robbie's a great player look at his tackle counts.What good is a masterful performance on a sunday on the field if the whole team feels like your being a dog from monday to saturday.No wonder Robbie made all the tackles no one else felt like makin any.

We could of had the entire state of origin team but if the players dont like each other they wont win jack squat.Im hopeful Robbie has apologised for his antics last year and the team as a whole and more importantly as one can move forward and be led by a captain courageous both on and off the field.We are all in agreeance Robbie on the field is great but off the field there is some that say he must remember we are the Wests Tigers not the Wests Whiteants.

Also I think this whole thread is just a revisit of differing opinions of Robbie loyalist and Robbie realist from last years crap cant we just move forward and give Robbie a second chance and a fair go this year let this years performances be what motivates our posts on this forum this year.This thread should be thrown into the annals of history as it is achieving nothing but negativity for our great club.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Here we go again. Farah does his best to try and just concentrate on football and trolls want to stir the pot.

We always talk about the players stepping up for the team. How about we as fans do the Wests Tigers a solid and just leave Farah alone for this season.

Seriously, lets just not critique him for ANYTHING but football.

But of course the trolls won't do this because it would be boring for them…because he's a bloody good Footballer!

I think we can all universally agree that Farah is the best player in the team, and probably the best player this club has had by a country mile. He is a competitor on the pitch, and kept us competitive during our lean years while Benji delivered rocks and diamonds without a quality half. He had his part to play with issues in the team last year. I'm not against giving him a clean slate for this season and an opportunity to perform under a new coach, but lets not act like he is a saint.

On Farah, I hope he can put last year behind him and come out firing, I believe he is probably a more dynamic hooker than Cam Smith and can win the game on his own. Couple that with a coach who has a great footy brain, he may go to a new level this year. Cautious optimism.

 

[Geo]

Geo the problem last year was rumors that there was players in the team who felt Farah was being a dog and white anted potter and that as a captain he should show some balls.Some simple clowns on here say oh but Robbie's a great player look at his tackle counts.What good is a masterful performance on a sunday on the field if the whole team feels like your being a dog from monday to saturday.No wonder Robbie made all the tackles no one else felt like makin any.

We could of had the entire state of origin team but if the players dont like each other they wont win jack squat.Im hopeful Robbie has apologised for his antics last year and the team as a whole and more importantly as one can move forward and be led by a captain courageous both on and off the field.We are all in agreeance Robbie on the field is great but off the field there is some that say he must remember we are the Wests Tigers not the Wests Whiteants.

Also I think this whole thread is just a revisit of differing opinions of Robbie loyalist and Robbie realist from last years crap cant we just move forward and give Robbie a second chance and a fair go this year let this years performances be what motivates our posts on this forum this year.This thread should be thrown into the annals of history as it is achieving nothing but negativity for our great club.

Which Players? Your whole argument is based on the same rumour and innuendo not FACTS…..

OH and Happy show me where I said you knocked Farah as a player ??????

 

[jirskyr]

No i am very critical of the playing group as a whole at the end of last year. Ive been around long enough and supported this club for longer than half the posters on here have been alive and im telling you they dogged it!

They had no interest in being competitive.

Farah as captain of that group of players did not do enough on and off the field during that time for me to continue supporting him based on his previous great service for the club. He is now on a level playing field and ill judge him accordingly.

Ill be cheering for him in the jersey come round 1

OK so the team intentionally lost games, or threw games, or gave up, and Farah was supposed to have curtailed or stopped that?

That is of course pure speculation, what was in the player's heads during a loss. There is a difference between playing poorly and giving up for continuous weeks.

But if your theory is right, if the players actually and intentionally stopped performing at their best, then I would say it is the coach's job to ensure that doesn't happen, not the captain. And Potter has been thrown under the bus, so you should be satisfied.

You are too nebulous about Farah. I wish to understand what Farah failed to do, "on and off the field" to stop this team-wide mentality of "dogging" games.

Did he not play to his best on field? Did he not give his all, tackle all game, try to win, set up points, argue with the refs, be passionate about performances? Was he not visibly upset and struggling during media conferences about the lack of results?

And what about off-field? Assuming you are only aware of a very small fraction of what occurs off-field, did Farah skip training, or not help younger players, or not do his rehab or preparation before games, did he not attend video sessions or not discuss tactics with the coach, not practice game plan with the spine and senior players?

No… what he did was say something private in 2013 that became public in 2014, then tried to argue his case in the media, then became very careful with the media after it became a saga. He dodged one set of interviews after a game. He appeared to become upset and there is footage from at least one game where the coach took him aside for a pep-talk.

I fail to see any failure on his behalf in there. When Matty Johns cornered Farah in 2013 (?) about the team being "soft", Farah fired up on camera and most supporters were positive about that. Tallis essentially back-stabs Farah in 2014, Farah fires up again, but this time it gets mixed in with the long-running imbroglio about Potter's future, and somehow Farah winds up on the other end as the villain?

 

[supercoach]

I was talking years ago to Kerry Hemsley in a pub and I was having a go at Ray Price and he said to me "mate you never bag a champion" The same applies to Farah, he is a out and out champion, and last year he copped it from all quarters based on some rubbish Tallis decided to air months after Farah had given him a throw line.

I am surprised he did not up and leave after the barrage he took, anyway shows what a real champion he is to stick around at his beloved club

 

[Tigermama]

No.

He is not saying that in the interview.

If he had of come out and said Taylor wants us to focus on defence. Defence is all about attitude and our attitude at the back end of last year was the worst in the clubs dismal history.

People with the same opinion as myself might be able to accept he understands where he went wrong and we could all move on.

It will never happen though because he will never admit he was at fault.

Last I checked

"For us and JT defence is our No.1 priority," Farah said. "You never go out there to concede points, but last year for one reason or another we fell away with our D. There were a couple of games there where we had some really big blowouts. That's disappointing when you let the scoreboard get away from you.
>
"If you're going to lose you want to walk off with your head held high. We are working on our structure and different sort of things that can help us in D.
>
"When a new coach comes in with new ideas, we need to adapt to that and buy into it. "We make mistakes some times because it's new to us, but each day we are reviewing it and seeing where we went wrong and where we can get better."

Also….. In a team sport I don't believe 1 Player is responsible for the whole defensive attitude...even in the games we were pumped more often than not Farah topped the tackle count...

Geo the problem last year was rumors that there was players in the team who felt Farah was being a dog and white anted potter and that as a captain he should show some balls.Some simple clowns on here say oh but Robbie's a great player look at his tackle counts.What good is a masterful performance on a sunday on the field if the whole team feels like your being a dog from monday to saturday.No wonder Robbie made all the tackles no one else felt like makin any.

We could of had the entire state of origin team but if the players dont like each other they wont win jack squat.Im hopeful Robbie has apologised for his antics last year and the team as a whole and more importantly as one can move forward and be led by a captain courageous both on and off the field.We are all in agreeance Robbie on the field is great but off the field there is some that say he must remember we are the Wests Tigers not the Wests Whiteants.

Also I think this whole thread is just a revisit of differing opinions of Robbie loyalist and Robbie realist from last years crap cant we just move forward and give Robbie a second chance and a fair go this year let this years performances be what motivates our posts on this forum this year.This thread should be thrown into the annals of history as it is achieving nothing but negativity for our great club.

You are adding to the negativity with this post Jerry :frowning:

 

[Tigermama]

I was talking years ago to Kerry Hemsley in a pub and I was having a go at Ray Price and he said to me "mate you never bag a champion" The same applies to Farah, he is a out and out champion, and last year he copped it from all quarters based on some rubbish Tallis decided to air months after Farah had given him a throw line.

I am surprised he did not up and leave after the barrage he took, anyway shows what a real champion he is to stick around at his beloved club

Nice post :slight_smile: totally agree!

 

[Tony33]

It's amazing how people can continually present rumours, assumptions and innuendo as FACT just to justify their own opinion.

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[Jerry_Seinfeld]

It's amazing how people can continually present rumours, assumptions and innuendo as FACT just to justify their own opinion.

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Which is EXACTLY what you've done in this case re Farah Tony33.But as I and TT and others have said can we leave this to the history annals of 2014 and not go on some back and forward crusade while in the process the biggest loser will be Robbie Farah of 2015 not the Robbie Farah of 2014.To use your own words Tony you've said on countless occasions Robbie made mistakes last year and I agree but I also truly believe that Robbie this year deserves a new shot cause yes the guy loves to win and not lose perhaps he has learnt the best way to go about winning is to work with those around you instead of running away from them.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

No.

He is not saying that in the interview.

If he had of come out and said Taylor wants us to focus on defence. Defence is all about attitude and our attitude at the back end of last year was the worst in the clubs dismal history.

People with the same opinion as myself might be able to accept he understands where he went wrong and we could all move on.

It will never happen though because he will never admit he was at fault.

Last I checked

"For us and JT defence is our No.1 priority," Farah said. "You never go out there to concede points, but last year for one reason or another we fell away with our D. There were a couple of games there where we had some really big blowouts. That's disappointing when you let the scoreboard get away from you.
>
"If you're going to lose you want to walk off with your head held high. We are working on our structure and different sort of things that can help us in D.
>
"When a new coach comes in with new ideas, we need to adapt to that and buy into it. "We make mistakes some times because it's new to us, but each day we are reviewing it and seeing where we went wrong and where we can get better."

Also….. In a team sport I don't believe 1 Player is responsible for the whole defensive attitude...even in the games we were pumped more often than not Farah topped the tackle count...

Geo the problem last year was rumors that there was players in the team who felt Farah was being a dog and white anted potter and that as a captain he should show some balls.Some simple clowns on here say oh but Robbie's a great player look at his tackle counts.What good is a masterful performance on a sunday on the field if the whole team feels like your being a dog from monday to saturday.No wonder Robbie made all the tackles no one else felt like makin any.

We could of had the entire state of origin team but if the players dont like each other they wont win jack squat.Im hopeful Robbie has apologised for his antics last year and the team as a whole and more importantly as one can move forward and be led by a captain courageous both on and off the field.We are all in agreeance Robbie on the field is great but off the field there is some that say he must remember we are the Wests Tigers not the Wests Whiteants.

Also I think this whole thread is just a revisit of differing opinions of Robbie loyalist and Robbie realist from last years crap cant we just move forward and give Robbie a second chance and a fair go this year let this years performances be what motivates our posts on this forum this year.This thread should be thrown into the annals of history as it is achieving nothing but negativity for our great club.

You are adding to the negativity with this post Jerry :frowning:

As are you Tigermama :wink: :wink:

 

[innsaneink]

I dont buy into the "Farah was one of our best when we were getting hammered, just look at his tackle counts."

He's supposed to be creative, our organiser…setting up plays.

Defending in the middle is automatic, its easy...you dont have to think they just run at you...this tells me he wasnt focussed on his game, its easy for an 80 min player to reack up big numbers when thats really all youre doing

We scored 50 points in 6 games...we had no attack, where our attack starts was focussed on something else

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

No i am very critical of the playing group as a whole at the end of last year. Ive been around long enough and supported this club for longer than half the posters on here have been alive and im telling you they dogged it!

They had no interest in being competitive.

Farah as captain of that group of players did not do enough on and off the field during that time for me to continue supporting him based on his previous great service for the club. He is now on a level playing field and ill judge him accordingly.

Ill be cheering for him in the jersey come round 1

OK so the team intentionally lost games, or threw games, or gave up, and Farah was supposed to have curtailed or stopped that?

That is of course pure speculation, what was in the player's heads during a loss. There is a difference between playing poorly and giving up for continuous weeks.

But if your theory is right, if the players actually and intentionally stopped performing at their best, then I would say it is the coach's job to ensure that doesn't happen, not the captain. And Potter has been thrown under the bus, so you should be satisfied.

You are too nebulous about Farah. I wish to understand what Farah failed to do, "on and off the field" to stop this team-wide mentality of "dogging" games.

Did he not play to his best on field? Did he not give his all, tackle all game, try to win, set up points, argue with the refs, be passionate about performances? Was he not visibly upset and struggling during media conferences about the lack of results?

And what about off-field? Assuming you are only aware of a very small fraction of what occurs off-field, did Farah skip training, or not help younger players, or not do his rehab or preparation before games, did he not attend video sessions or not discuss tactics with the coach, not practice game plan with the spine and senior players?

No… what he did was say something private in 2013 that became public in 2014, then tried to argue his case in the media, then became very careful with the media after it became a saga. He dodged one set of interviews after a game. He appeared to become upset and there is footage from at least one game where the coach took him aside for a pep-talk.

I fail to see any failure on his behalf in there. When Matty Johns cornered Farah in 2013 (?) about the team being "soft", Farah fired up on camera and most supporters were positive about that. Tallis essentially back-stabs Farah in 2014, Farah fires up again, but this time it gets mixed in with the long-running imbroglio about Potter's future, and somehow Farah winds up on the other end as the villain?

As i have said clearly and repeatedly my opinion is based on what i saw on the field and noticed in the way he reacted. Now that your trying to tie me into the section of people who base their opinion on what is portrayed in the media ill end this discussion.

 

[Geo]

OH Dear..Do you even read your own posts Jerry?…I still like to know Which Players you are referring to but I guess it's easier for you to use a big paint brush....

 

[Tony33]

Jerry please please pleaseeeeee show me one post where my comments were based on rumour an innuendo ? Please !

You on the other hand have done nothing but present your assumptions and other rumours as FACT and then used it to justify your opinion

See unlike you I'll show you examples. In this thread and countless others you have claimed or implied as fact, that:

- Robbie didn't like Potter
- Robbie was the reason Potter was sacked
- The team stopped playing because of Robbie
- The rest of the team didn't like Robbie

See Jerry, you have used the above assumtpions as a basis for your posts which you have tried to pass on as facts. Either show us concrete proof that the above assumtpions are indeed true or don't use them when trying to involve yourself in a discussion.

All I have seen since this whole mess hit the fan are numerous players (Taupau, Austin, Lawerence) come out in support of their captain and even commenting how he is the heart and soul of the wests tigers (if you don't believe me I'm more then happy to post up the exact article after my shift). So clearly based on that alone, your assumptions aren't accurate and you should not be using them as FACTS

Theres a difference between what you're doing and others who say "Robbie isn't a good enough captain" are doing. That statement is subjective and that all comes down to persepctive and differening viewpoints. I actually agree with that statement myself but even if i didn't that's there perspective. What you're doing is something completely different..

Anyway i do agree with you on one thing, that was 2014 and this is 2015\. So lets give everyone a second chance and move on shall we…

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[stevetiger]

In this thread and countless others you have claimed or implied as fact, that:

- Robbie didn't like Potter
- Robbie was the reason Potter was sacked
- The team stopped playing because of Robbie
- The rest of the team didn't like Robbie

See Jerry, you have used the above assumtpions as a basis for your posts which you have tried to pass on as facts. Either show us concrete proof that the above assumtpions are indeed true or don't use them when trying to involve yourself in a discussion.

I am not directing this post at any one person in particular however I totally agree with what Tony33 is stating. There is no proof for all of these supposed facts that people keep posting.

We lost too many games last year. Lets hope we win a lot more this year.

 

[jirskyr]

As i have said clearly and repeatedly my opinion is based on what i saw on the field and noticed in the way he reacted. Now that your trying to tie me into the section of people who base their opinion on what is portrayed in the media ill end this discussion.

Umm, scroll up a page or two?

Farah as captain of that group of players did not do enough **on and off the field** during that time for me to continue supporting him based on his previous great service for the club.