Farah

@alexaki said:
He needs to get his mind of SOO and think about playing well for the tigers once that is over his form will improve!
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On current form(probably due to his groin) I don't think SOO is going to be an issue for Farah this year.
 
he has struggled ever since ennis took his spot … robbie is a heap better player than ennis but on form he isnt a chance at cracking it ....but then again ennis isnt a walkup starter either. farah always looks like he is angry with the world , and not enjoying playing the game .. as for being quiet .. farah is the captain so it all starts with him .
 
@bigdamo said:
been crap all year excepts souths game he is coming very close to being overated

He is overrated but only due to consistency. Against Souths he played like very few hookers can play. The problem is that he also has shockers and then plays like he did tonight - good but with that critical dumb play.
 
Im gonna stir the boat a bit but I honestly dont think Farah has been the same player since he was dropped from origin 3 in 2009\. Maybe its the fact he did what they wanted, he worked hard on his defence, doing more work and toughening up. But his flare in attack has totally gone down, or maybe opposition teams have just worked him out a bit.

In fairness to him he doesnt play behind the greatest pack in the NRL and we never really go forward and get quick play the balls which really hurts him but he rarely makes breaks anymore, and he really rarely also makes good metres out of dummy half. To go with that his mistake rate is really high and has cost us.

I know he finished top few in the NRL Dally M last year but I even felt last year he wasnt unbelievable…probably still good, but if you compare him to a few years ago I believed he was close to the best player in the world. Opposition teams just couldnt know what he was doing everytime he touched it.

This is the first year that If i was being honest id say he doesnt deserve to be picked for origin.
 
@tig_prmz said:
@alexaki said:
He needs to get his mind of SOO and think about playing well for the tigers once that is over his form will improve!
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How can you say he was thinking of SOO? Are you a mind-reader? Sorry, but it's premature to suggest that his mind is set on origin. Every player knows if they play well, the selectors will pick em and if they don't you cant do anything except be consistent.

Saying his mind is on SOO is premature.

On another note, I watched him closely tonight and I don't have any stats but before I thought he just scoots out of dummy-half whenever possible but geeze the runners don't make it easy for him. As Joey?? pointed out, Tigers lack communication deeply. Our game plan I think involves a lot of decoy runners but sometimes Robbie doesn't know who is the decoy and who to give the ball to. Eventually, it ends up being delievered to a flat footed forward who walks 5 metres and gets pushed back 10 (exaggeration).

I dont know whose fault it is but communication is a real downer.

Our communication was disgusting at times Maybe too many cooks spoiling the broth
 
i don't know what is causing the communication issues, perhaps too many changes week to week in the team.

that being said, farah is not thinking about SOO, but he IS struggling with injury. he hasn't been the same player since the back operation and he is carrying some pretty serious groin and hip injuries and will be all throughout the year. only surgery will clean these two up but that would rule him out and i think the theory is half a farah is better than no farah. the guy is tough…
 
Farah relies on our go forward in attack and we have very little at the moment . He is carrying injury . Getting a bit sick of him going from dummy half from close to the line He should maybe do it once every two or 3 weeks to really try and catch teams out with it . What would be more effective in those situations would be is to fake and then hit a hard running forward coming at an angle IE Fifita or Woods back where the player would be coming from (One off the ruck ) in the defensive line
 
@Kaiser said:
At times I think he doesn't want to give it to Marshall…

Yeah - we are on their line with Benji Marshall outside of you and you go for the grubber on the 4th tackle. Why ?
 
@angeman said:
i don't know what is causing the communication issues, perhaps too many changes week to week in the team.

that being said, farah is not thinking about SOO, but he IS struggling with injury. he hasn't been the same player since the back operation and he is carrying some pretty serious groin and hip injuries and will be all throughout the year. only surgery will clean these two up but that would rule him out and i think the theory is half a farah is better than no farah. the guy is tough…

Anyone can see that he is playing injured. He is not doing himself or the team any good by playing. Get the groin fixed Robbie and come back at the same time as Lawrence and Lote. Only then will we see the best of Farah.

Sheens is the coach. Make him have the operation Tim for God's sake and for all of us.
 
He has not been great but the last two week the reffs have let the opposition lay over the player tackled and loiter in the PTB without penalty. Add that to Thaiday being offside all game and it is a good recipie for Robbie being quiet. When he has to drift into the halves to get touches there is nothing doing at the PTB
 
Again it comes back to the physicality the rest of the team play with. Marshall, Lui & Farah are attacking geniuses, if the rest of side do their job, tackle hard, run the ball hard and compete physically, no side in the NRL can stop them. If the rest of the blokes aren`t prepared to show a bit of heart and compete physically it makes it very hard for our playmakers.
 
@magpiecol said:
@angeman said:
i don't know what is causing the communication issues, perhaps too many changes week to week in the team.

that being said, farah is not thinking about SOO, but he IS struggling with injury. he hasn't been the same player since the back operation and he is carrying some pretty serious groin and hip injuries and will be all throughout the year. only surgery will clean these two up but that would rule him out and i think the theory is half a farah is better than no farah. the guy is tough…

Anyone can see that he is playing injured. He is not doing himself or the team any good by playing. Get the groin fixed Robbie and come back at the same time as Lawrence and Lote. Only then will we see the best of Farah.

Sheens is the coach. Make him have the operation Tim for God's sake and for all of us.

agreed. you think they would have booked him in as early as possible. especially with so many out and chances of us winning lowered a fair bit…
 
A few things worth pointing out:

1\. Farah tries to kick the ball way too hard on his long kicks. You watch him lash out at the ball when he's in a bad position and it leads to losing a lot of power and a lot of shanks. He should learn from the way blokes like Lockyer, Soward and Mullen kick it. They've got booming boots yet it looks like they only tap the ball. It's about timing, Farah's leg is more than strong enough yet if you want to kill the ball a 50m dead, more often than not, the balls going to screw off to the side.

2\. Arguably Farah's strongest ability was being able to engage the markers and find chinks in the defence from dummy-half with his quick, selective running. It's clear he can't run at 100% and he's lost a few yards of pace with the injury. Yes he's a very good ball player and can play at first and second receiver, but everyone knows that his playmaking and running out of dummy half was his strength. When you lose your strongest asset, everything else falls off as well.

3\. As stated earlier in the thread, Farah's probably hindered by having quality playmakers such as Lui, Marshall and Moltzen in the team. Farah's the building block rather than the last tile on the roof. Its not surprise that his best games/patches etc coincided with being the only dominant player in the side. When Johnny Morris and other average joes we've had in the past were in the key spine positions. Farah ran the show his way and he could do as he pleased, there wasn't strong conflicting play calls across the other side of the field so it was up to him to create and it suited him really well.

At this stage, the groin injury is definitely the most important thing to tend to. Ostetis pubis is a **** of a thing to have and without extended rest and treatment, you'll never be above 65-70%. I don't want a 65% Farah for the whole season when I could have a 95-100% Farah for the last 10 weeks.
 
Lukic - thats a pretty large post which doesn't get anywhere near what is wrong with Farah.

The problem if simply his poor options predominately in the opposition 20 metre line which is related to the worst short kicking game in the NRL at this point.

Who knows if he has a groin injury or if he is thinking about SOO but neither reason has anything to do with taking poor option after poor option when we are in a position to score.
 
Who knows if he has a groin injury??????
Have you been on Mars?
Its been well documented.
Its not about taking poor options…the options in many instances are the correct one, executing that option, as you say his kicking - when he has a groin injury is always going to be the difficult part.
 
@innsaneink said:
Who knows if he has a groin injury??????
Have you been on Mars?
Its been well documented.
Its not about taking poor options…the options in many instances are the correct one, executing that option, as you say his kicking - when he has a groin injury is always going to be the difficult part.

I think it is - he simply doesn't pass it enough to our best attacking players when we are on the attack in the opposition twenty. Add to that his short kicking game is absolutely terrible at this point in time.

As for the groin injury - he was fantastic against Souths. Who knows how bad it is. There always seems to be injury excuses for his poor play going on a couple of years now. Against the broncos I thought his overall game was pretty good - no missed tackles and no real poor mistakes apart from that kick. The problem is that kick was a complete and utter shocker.
 
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