TheSunTanSuperman
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@alexaki said:
What, they don't deserve to be there on their own accord?
Four Nations Final - Aussies vs Poms
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What, they don't deserve to be there on their own accord?
@happy tiger said:
Hahaha their voices just become depressing in tone. And then normally there will be one that will try and cheer the other commentators up.
One of the commentators (Can't remember his name) goes "There's only 6 minutes left in Darren Lockyer's career so lets enjoy it"
Eddie Hemmings: "No thanks :frowning: "
A few minutes later, Mike Stephenson: "Well that should of been a penalty, he wanted a quick play the ball"
EH: "It doesnt matter now Stevo"
EH: "Well the agony continues its been 52 years since we have won on home soil"
innsaneink
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@Jazza said:
The *Siggghhhhs* at the end of every EH sentence were hilarous
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Locky video the key to Kangaroos success
Ian McCullough
November 20, 2011 - 1:14PM
AAP
Australia coach Tim Sheens revealed a tribute video helped lift the Kangaroos to the 30-8 Four Nations final triumph over England which ended skipper Darren Lockyer's career on a high.
Sheens had one of his backroom team create a video involving footage of every member of the Australian squad to the Irving Berlin song I Just Can't Do It Without You.
He showed it to his players 24 hours before the game.
"I wanted the video to feature Darren, who was the main focus of it, but also everybody else on the tour," Sheens said.
"The main theme of the tour was that we wanted to do it for him. But everyone has contributed.
"We have a great group and had 80 minutes to go and it was just a reminder to them of how close we've been for five weeks."
That was the motivational side, but there were also plenty of physical concerns.
The physio team worked overtime to get prop Matt Scott and halfback Johnathan Thurston onto the Elland Road field after neither trained on Friday, while prop Keith Galloway and centre Greg Inglis were also in doubt having been ill during the week.
In a repeat of the 2009 final, the Kangaroos were involved in a tough contest against a spirited England side.
Despite dominating a first half that saw two tries disallowed by the video referee, the Kangaroos led just 8-6 at halftime thanks to Sam Thaiday's early four-pointer.
A controversial penalty try following a high tackle by Thurston, who appeared to prevent Ryan Hall from scoring, had got the hosts back on level terms, before Thurston added a penalty goal on the stroke of halftime.
The tourists then had to withstand a furious spell of pressure from England after the break with a raucous crowd firmly behind them.
But Steve McNamara's side could only muster a Kevin Sinfield penalty, and Australia marched down the field to score a try through Jharal Yow Yeh.
That setback seemed to knock the stuffing out of the hosts and four-pointers from Inglis, the outstanding Thurston and Lockyer, with the final play of the match, ensured Australia's proud record of not having lost a series to England since the 1972 World Cup was maintained.
Lockyer grubbered through and regathered a somewhat fortuitous rebound from the post to touch down for his try.
His attempt to sign off by converting it from almost in front was less memorable as it skewed off his boot.
"They had that momentum on us but we held, forced an error and ended up down the other end and scored," Sheens said.
"Paul Gallen was tremendous tonight, as were all of our forwards.
"He played the whole game, apart from five minutes, and he gave me a spray when I took him off."
McNamara admitted his side were well beaten but praised his players' performances throughout the tournament.
"We weren't quite as in sync with each other as in previous games," McNamara said.
"It is a disappointing way to finish and the players didn't deserve it.
"But the tournament has been a real progression for us. We are desperately disappointed not to win.
"We felt we had a good opportunity and lost it but overall the success of our program for the whole year has been a positive step in the right direction."
Ian McCullough
November 20, 2011 - 1:14PM
AAP
Australia coach Tim Sheens revealed a tribute video helped lift the Kangaroos to the 30-8 Four Nations final triumph over England which ended skipper Darren Lockyer's career on a high.
Sheens had one of his backroom team create a video involving footage of every member of the Australian squad to the Irving Berlin song I Just Can't Do It Without You.
He showed it to his players 24 hours before the game.
"I wanted the video to feature Darren, who was the main focus of it, but also everybody else on the tour," Sheens said.
"The main theme of the tour was that we wanted to do it for him. But everyone has contributed.
"We have a great group and had 80 minutes to go and it was just a reminder to them of how close we've been for five weeks."
That was the motivational side, but there were also plenty of physical concerns.
The physio team worked overtime to get prop Matt Scott and halfback Johnathan Thurston onto the Elland Road field after neither trained on Friday, while prop Keith Galloway and centre Greg Inglis were also in doubt having been ill during the week.
In a repeat of the 2009 final, the Kangaroos were involved in a tough contest against a spirited England side.
Despite dominating a first half that saw two tries disallowed by the video referee, the Kangaroos led just 8-6 at halftime thanks to Sam Thaiday's early four-pointer.
A controversial penalty try following a high tackle by Thurston, who appeared to prevent Ryan Hall from scoring, had got the hosts back on level terms, before Thurston added a penalty goal on the stroke of halftime.
The tourists then had to withstand a furious spell of pressure from England after the break with a raucous crowd firmly behind them.
But Steve McNamara's side could only muster a Kevin Sinfield penalty, and Australia marched down the field to score a try through Jharal Yow Yeh.
That setback seemed to knock the stuffing out of the hosts and four-pointers from Inglis, the outstanding Thurston and Lockyer, with the final play of the match, ensured Australia's proud record of not having lost a series to England since the 1972 World Cup was maintained.
Lockyer grubbered through and regathered a somewhat fortuitous rebound from the post to touch down for his try.
His attempt to sign off by converting it from almost in front was less memorable as it skewed off his boot.
"They had that momentum on us but we held, forced an error and ended up down the other end and scored," Sheens said.
"Paul Gallen was tremendous tonight, as were all of our forwards.
"He played the whole game, apart from five minutes, and he gave me a spray when I took him off."
McNamara admitted his side were well beaten but praised his players' performances throughout the tournament.
"We weren't quite as in sync with each other as in previous games," McNamara said.
"It is a disappointing way to finish and the players didn't deserve it.
"But the tournament has been a real progression for us. We are desperately disappointed not to win.
"We felt we had a good opportunity and lost it but overall the success of our program for the whole year has been a positive step in the right direction."
So proud of how the boys dug deep this morning to win and send Locky out a winner.
The usual suspects - Smith, Gallen, Thaiday, JT, Locky, Ingliss and Slater were awesome as were the guys who never give up like Watmough, Lewis and Boyd. Lawrence, Yow yeh, Cronk and Uate also all had strong tournaments.
I dont care what anyone says, watching the best of the best play together is a priveledge and I enjoyed seeing how tight this group is and how skillful they are. We wre twice as good as them and it showed. Bring on 2012…...
The usual suspects - Smith, Gallen, Thaiday, JT, Locky, Ingliss and Slater were awesome as were the guys who never give up like Watmough, Lewis and Boyd. Lawrence, Yow yeh, Cronk and Uate also all had strong tournaments.
I dont care what anyone says, watching the best of the best play together is a priveledge and I enjoyed seeing how tight this group is and how skillful they are. We wre twice as good as them and it showed. Bring on 2012…...
Tiger_Watto
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@stryker said:
You been saucing up all day Styker… Slater? :wink:
black_and_white_tige
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Chris's no try was an absolute joke. The same can be said about the pommie commentators. As far as the video ref goes, well enough said !
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@black and white tiger said:
^This. When Chris scored we jumped off the couch. high fives, woo hoos (scaring the poor dog), only to end up disappointed and swearing. The hubby was totally p….d off and spent the rest of the game muttering "just give them (Eng) the trophy now already". :laughing:
Citizen_Tiger
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jeez we can be a nation of graceless winners at times. Not content with belting a team that haven't won a series for 50 years, we have to moan about decisions that had ultimately had no bearing on the outcome. If we remove the rose coloured glasses and closely examine the penalty try, we might just conclude that the video ref made the correct decision. Luke Lewis knee made contact with the try scorers head prior to grounding. Last time I checked Law 11, using the knees in a tackle was illegal. WTF does Thurston's high tackle have to do with it? Pretty simple, if in the opinion of the ref (in this instance the video ref), a try would have been scored but for the illegal act of the defender, its a penalty try.
black_and_white_tige
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@Citizen Tiger said:
Sorry CT, but we were referring to Chris Lawrence's no try which had nothing to do with Luke Lewis' knee or Law 11\. I agree with that particular try being awarded as a penalty try. ( A Billy Slater special ). Chris's try however was disallowed because apparently someone ( Gallen I think ) was deemed to be inside the ten metres after a kick thru. In my book a moan is granted!
Disagree CT…JT's tackle was a head high penalty however there was no gaurantee the try would be scored as the cover defence (Lewis) may have and ultimately did stop the try being scored with his tackle. I also disagree he lead with the knees to the head. He was trying to position himself under the attacker whilst hitting him as hard as he could. His knee jolted the ball out of his hands which may have happened without JT's involvement. Therefore it wasn't 100% obvious he would score and so no penalty try.
Rowdy's no try was a ridiculous decision. The point is that if we dont get the rules sorted out and all referees on the same page, Rugby League at international level will continue to struggle. With so many different interpretations of the same scenarios the game at this level is heading towards the mess that is Rugby Union.
Rowdy's no try was a ridiculous decision. The point is that if we dont get the rules sorted out and all referees on the same page, Rugby League at international level will continue to struggle. With so many different interpretations of the same scenarios the game at this level is heading towards the mess that is Rugby Union.
innsaneink
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Lewis' knees were nowhere near the poms head, his knee is what dislodged the ball….
Head - LOL
Penalty England attack 10m out, 10m in
Head - LOL
Penalty England attack 10m out, 10m in
Citizen_Tiger
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@stryker said:
I'm not concerned with Thurston's tackle. In the absence of what followed, it was nothing more than a penalty. The try would have been scored however, but for an infringement by Lewis under laws 11 and/or 15\. The players head snapped back violently prior to the ball being grounded. While Lewis's contact may not have
been intentional, reckless or careless still applies, particularly when the defender leads with the knees. Whether he was trying to position himself under the ball was immaterial, that does not mitigate the act. I'd invite you to watch the replay and note what happens to the bloke's melon before he grounds the ball.
Good decision by the TMO in my opinion. Agree on the Lawrence decision.
