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batboy said:
Not dismissing what Lodge did - Or even considering it really....
They're poles apart on principle, One is a young bloke in a stupid situation...
One is the head figure (Leader) of 30+ young blokes, Staff etc....

A bit like when a 26yr old Woman has a relationship with a 17 yr old bloke, It's not common - But not impossible, Whilst not ideal - Society moves past it.
If that 26 yr old woman is a teacher - And the 17 yr old is a student - she's looking at Jail...

You've also overlooked the part where he oversaw an illegal drugs program with his whole NRL Squad
- Some of those guys never really played again...
He shouldn't have been allowed back after that for mine, The fact most of them got off lightly for that probably helped.... There could have been 30 odd blokes who lost 4 years of a career.

His suspension was I feel are on top of that... And his obvious lack of the morals required in a coaches position.

He's obviously got some mates (In fox and around the game) Because he's got plenty of starts and he's always around....
Don't know how, He's not a real delightful human - Been plenty of assistants chose to not work under him along the way.
Everyone claims he saved the Sharks and dragged them from cellar dwellers to totally change the outlook of the club, That's not really true - I think Gallen had more to do with that, He's the one that got Lewis and a few of the other blokes there....

Either way, I certainly wouldn't be trusting Flanagan with my kids career...
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Flanno didn't beat the shit out of a bloke in front of his family and threatened two women.

That's not a "young bloke in a stupid situation," as that suggests he may have been remorseful in retrospect. He was not and was even caught joking about it not long after at a party.
 
Did Flanno ever admit he was in the wrong over peptides?? may be this part of the reason he is not a head coach at the moment.
 
426Tlgerland said:
Des wont be hear no matter what, Maybe sheens steps,aside at season end and hands it on A year early , but unless we buy a couple players it won’t matter
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We can't keep thinking it's the coach that is the issue. It's the squad. We've made improvements but we need more improvements.
 
Luke Heartbreaker Brooks said:
We can't keep thinking it's the coach that is the issue. It's the squad. We've made improvements but we need more improvements.
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I have nothing personal against coaching staff, i actually feel sorry for them. But anway last paragraph of zero tackle article

"This is a club who are all buying into the Bennett way of thinking. Do the hard yards and the game becomes easy.

Bennett has a way of getting the best out of every player he coaches, and if there is a better example than Marshall-King and Katoa's form to start 2023, it'll be tough to find."
 
Demps said:
I thought he was threatening two women.

Disgraceful either way.
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Lodge started started it on the street with Lodge stalking two women telling them it was their night to die or something to that effect. When the women sought refuge by buzzing at an apartment complex the bloke with the mrs and kid let the women in and Lodge charged in behind them and then assaulted the bloke that was trying to help, while getting belted by Lodge the bloke was telling his mrs to hide in the bathroom with the kid. When Lodge finished with him and then turn his attention to the bathroom door terrorising the wife and kid. Until police arrived and he resisted that as well.
I have been no saint in life but this deserve a complete ban from our great game of rugby league.
Not sure if Flanno's indiscretion, (although not great in its own right and I do not want to diminish the wrongness of what Flanno did}, I'm not sure it quite stacks up against what Lodge did but I am sure there is someone in the morals dept. that can set us straight.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Flanno didn't beat the shit out of a bloke in front of his family and threatened two women.

That's not a "young bloke in a stupid situation," as that suggests he may have been remorseful in retrospect. He was not and was even caught joking about it not long after at a party.
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No, Flanno just oversaw a program that could have ruined 30+ blokes lives - and whatever offshoot that may come of that.

As I said - I wasn’t considering what either guy is guilty of… it’s simply not my point.

There’s a vast difference between the guy that isn’t adhering to acceptable standards in society or an organisation (Lodge)
And being the guy that’s not setting the acceptable standards in an organisation, and gambling with little to no care factor of the livelihood of a whole bunch of people…
the fact it didn’t turn out worse for those blokes is a blessing on flanno…
what if careers were ruined, blokes necked themselves or some such….
Maybe worse.
What Lodge did was by far worse than the likes of packer, Greg bird and Inglis - what flanno did, isn’t comparable - he’s on his own…
 
batboy said:
No, Flanno just oversaw a program that could have ruined 30+ blokes lives - and whatever offshoot that may come of that.

As I said - I wasn’t considering what either guy is guilty of… it’s simply not my point.

There’s a vast difference between the guy that isn’t adhering to acceptable standards in society or an organisation (Lodge)
And being the guy that’s not setting the acceptable standards in an organisation, and gambling with little to no care factor of the livelihood of a whole bunch of people…
the fact it didn’t turn out worse for those blokes is a blessing on flanno…
what if careers were ruined, blokes necked themselves or some such….
Maybe worse.
What Lodge did was by far worse than the likes of packer, Greg bird and Inglis - what flanno did, isn’t comparable - he’s on his own…
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Lodge actually did what he did, you yourself are judging Flanno on "what ifs." It worked out OK for most of them, some won a premiership in 2016, some got coaching roles at the club, some went on to play at other clubs or in the UK.

You're also assuming the players were not complicit.

Your points about him setting the standard etc are valid criticism, however he was penalised and has paid his penalty. I would gather the NRL would be drug testing which ever club he wound up at a much more frequent rate than any other club.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Lodge actually did what he did, you yourself are judging Flanno on "what ifs." It worked out OK for most of them, some won a premiership in 2016, some got coaching roles at the club, some went on to play at other clubs or in the UK.

You're also assuming the players were not complicit.

Your points about him setting the standard etc are valid criticism, however he was penalised and has paid his penalty. I would gather the NRL would be drug testing which ever club he wound up at a much more frequent rate than any other club.
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No I'm not - I'm judging him on not giving a flyin Fk about his players... Getting suspended, And not giving a flying fk about that either - And god knows what else he thought he was above....
- You and others are comparing the 2 incidents - I am not....

Even if the players were in on it, They're the players - Not the Leader - Not the coach.
Young blokes being paid to do what he says...
Some did win a comp, Or play overseas - Some faded into nothing....

Some still can't walk down the street with their kids without being called a 'Drug Cheat'
and that probably won't change in the next 20 years!!

Paid his penalty? - Depends who you ask - He obviously didn't think he had to pay his penalty (Hence, His latest suspension)
- Could also argue that Lodge has paid a penalty as well?
(But I'm not the one trying to draw the parallel)

How many coaches have been suspended from the game - twice?
 
What Matt Lodge did was wrong and should have gone to jail for it. The fact that money was paid basically to get him home and playing a professional sport and not one form of remorse from him just shows his weakness as a person. If flanno has paid his dues then why has two clubs said no to his coaching aspirations??
 
Pascoe Must Resign said:
Never forget that the Sharks were over the cap in 2015 and 2017, yet conveniently not in 2016 when they won a premiership.
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So you’re saying he knows how to manage the books ala Bellamy, Unc Nick, and Gould. That just adds another string to his bow if you ask me.
I’d love it if the Tigers could manage our books like that.
 
Now im remembering Lodges dramas but wasnt really across Flanagans. Niether is a good look and considering how techical nrl gets w the games rules makes them hypocrites.

The closest either should get to nrl is cleaning toilets games day. Not to start anything but surely debelins indiscresions has impact on his team mates.

Im sure some of them think he not all that n a bag of chips particulary how it was written about in the press. It was full on how it was covered and his body language was crap.

If I was an nrl player I wouldnt want to play a game of footy with him, or lodge or be coached in any capacity by Flanagan. Thered be too much, i dunno, smell.
 
batboy said:
No I'm not - I'm judging him on not giving a flyin Fk about his players... Getting suspended, And not giving a flying fk about that either - And god knows what else he thought he was above....
- You and others are comparing the 2 incidents - I am not....

Even if the players were in on it, They're the players - Not the Leader - Not the coach.
Young blokes being paid to do what he says...
Some did win a comp, Or play overseas - Some faded into nothing....

Some still can't walk down the street with their kids without being called a 'Drug Cheat'
and that probably won't change in the next 20 years!!

Paid his penalty? - Depends who you ask - He obviously didn't think he had to pay his penalty (Hence, His latest suspension)
- Could also argue that Lodge has paid a penalty as well?
(But I'm not the one trying to draw the parallel)

How many coaches have been suspended from the game - twice?
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Dunno. The NRL penalised him accordingly. He was the only one who did any meaningful time over it apart from Sandor Earl. Everyone else got off Scot free.

You say you're not trying to draw a parallel but you're somehow drawing an equivalency about a dude who committed a serious assault and a coach who oversaw a doping programme by saying you're not drawing a parallel, and then making some roundabout remarks about what society deems acceptable or not. If you weren't drawing equivalence you'd ignore it altogether?
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Dunno. The NRL penalised him accordingly. He was the only one who did any meaningful time over it apart from Sandor Earl. Everyone else got off Scot free.

You say you're not trying to draw a parallel but you're somehow drawing an equivalency about a dude who committed a serious assault and a coach who oversaw a doping programme by saying you're not drawing a parallel, and then making some roundabout remarks about what society deems acceptable or not. If you weren't drawing equivalence you'd ignore it altogether?
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No mate - Wrong again....
I disagreed with someone who stacked them up against each other - And you disagreed with me.
It doesn't matter what I say, You keep trying to convince me they're comparable...
They're not.
I simply responded to your comments.

Then defending Flanagan because you see he was punished - Whilst banging on about Lodge like he wasn't
All yours Gov.
 
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