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Roar talent: lethal attack will have the other contenders running scared
Phil Gould
August 22, 2011

The momentum is gathering for the Wests Tigers. They will have the other finals contenders looking over their shoulders.

Their victory over Parramatta at the Sydney Football Stadium yesterday could be best described as entertaining rather than anything of dynamic semi-final quality; but there were some brilliant passages of play that will definitely get the attention of the rival coaches.

(Yes, Wests Tigers played Parramatta at Moore Park on a Sunday afternoon - brilliant scheduling - I will come back to this in a moment.)

The thing about the Tigers is that this team has the ability to attack every possible gap in their opponents' defensive line. A football team lines up in defensive positions across the field. Every gap in between two defenders represents an opportunity. Then there is the space outside the respective wingers down the sidelines.

Behind the line there is open territory just waiting for the well-placed chip or grubber kick. Then we have the high ball ''bomb'' options to assist those teams who can't find their way through a defence. The Tigers can go through you, around you, over you, under you; and, as we saw yesterday, between your legs.

Some teams have their favourite plays. Others restrict themselves to playing down one side of the field.

The Tigers are dangerous from everywhere. When the dummy half runs it looks like it's planned. Players are there to support or it leads to a quickly constructed switch of play to the other side of the ruck area.

When a forward just takes the ball on a metre-gaining run, you sense the offload is a real threat; his teammates sweat on him passing.

All the Tigers' forwards are encouraged to pass. They are all a part of plays to create more space out wide for their halves.

The designated playmakers are outstanding. Halfback Robert Lui and five-eighth Benji Marshall are electrifying when they are on song.

All this creativity and ball movement ignites the quicker men out wide and brings them into the game more than any back line in the NRL. It's exciting to watch.

The Tigers can play the short side of the field, the long side of the field, left, right, down the middle; and often both sides in one play.

In the first half yesterday they flexed their attacking muscles and threw most of their repertoire at the Eels. They quickly posted three tries to lead 16-0 at half-time.

Until then the Tigers were the only team playing football. The Eels were in distress mode.

The second half was far more competitive. The lift in aggression from the Eels coincided with a drop in intensity from the Tigers. Suddenly the margin was cut back to four points and the Tigers had to reboot the main engines to win the match.

The Tigers managed it without too much difficulty. In fact, their last 20 minutes was very professionally executed. Tim Sheens would have been more satisfied with the control shown in the final quarter of the game when it was required, rather than the brilliance of the opening quarter.

The Eels were outclassed, but didn't shirk their task - the story of their season. They're better than 16th.

Now, let's get back to the issue of the venue. The NRL claims to have a strategy for tackling the challenges our game faces in western Sydney. It claims it has it all under control.

**So how does playing a Sunday game between two of western Sydney's major drawcards at an eastern suburbs venue fit into this strategy? Give me one good reason why this game was not played somewhere in Sydney's west? Hmmm?\
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I don't give a damn about stadium deals. What about the future of our game? The AFL must get sore in the guts laughing at our stupidity.**

Anyway; the Tigers were far too good. They are a joy to watch on a Sunday afternoon.

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The bit about the SFS I cant agree with, the money from that deal allows us to play 4 games at LO and four games at Co a year. Its a good mix, okay if the NRL wants to make up the short fall in attempt to sure up the west from AFL and play the game at Cambo, than thats okay, but we need the dollars from the SFS deal. It also give us a run on the ground we may play some early semi final games on
 
Supercoach - you are 100% correct.

I actually agree with Gould, but I understand the position of Wests Tigers. Gould misses the critical point that stadium deals **are important** to the clubs under the current revenue and cost structures. If the NRL wants Wests Tigers to play more matches at Campbelltown, we need more revenue from other sources.
 
Gould has good intentions r.e playing in Western Sydney, but if they wanted us to play there then get the NRL to give us the same revenue we get from the SFS, then no problems, we play there.

Otherwise, it just doesn't work. Money talks.
 
Agree with some of what he said about the stadium choice also. For me it's not about dumping the SFS, because I can see the benefits of playing there ($$$ from the deal with the stadium), it's more about the choice of which games are played where.

When we play the other Western Sydney teams, play them at LO or Cambo. Save the footy stadium for other teams maybe?

Gould also talk a lot about the AFL laughing at us, but I seem to recall reading somwhere that the GWS team will be playing a stack of games in the ACT? Hardly Western Sydney.
 
@Team Tiger said:
Agree with some of what he said about the stadium choice also. For me it's not about dumping the SFS, because I can see the benefits of playing there ($$$ from the deal with the stadium), it's more about the choice of which games are played where.

When we play the other Western Sydney teams, play them at LO or Cambo. Save the footy stadium for other teams maybe?

**Gould also talk a lot about the AFL laughing at us, but I seem to recall reading somwhere that the GWS team will be playing a stack of games in the ACT? Hardly Western Sydney.**

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4 games a year I think.
 
If Parra were doing well and their fans were not expecting their team to get belted, then this would have been an absolute blockbuster. (Similar to the Dragons game a few weeks back). 25000+

WT management would have be hailed as genius' for allowing the game to be viewed by so many fans and not locking people and youngsters out of packed LO or CAM. (This comment is not talking about atmosphere etc)

SFS is central to most and the transfers from Central are very good.

As for the AFL Thingy, Gould is pushing his own agenda when he please it seems, Wasn't it only last week he was talking with them…

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@Duffy_P said:
@Team Tiger said:
Agree with some of what he said about the stadium choice also. For me it's not about dumping the SFS, because I can see the benefits of playing there ($$$ from the deal with the stadium), it's more about the choice of which games are played where.

When we play the other Western Sydney teams, play them at LO or Cambo. Save the footy stadium for other teams maybe?

**Gould also talk a lot about the AFL laughing at us, but I seem to recall reading somwhere that the GWS team will be playing a stack of games in the ACT? Hardly Western Sydney.**

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4 games a year I think.

And the rest will be at ANZ, hardly even close to their supposed home base at Rooty Hill…
 
I agree with Gould that it is important to keep up the work in western Sydney, however Gould himself should be focussing on increasing his own crowds before worrying about the other western teams.

11.5 thousand to the Panthers game; yes they are going crap and played a non-Syd team, however it was the last home game and farewell for Waterhouse and Petero. Tigers got 18.5 thousand and let's be honest Parra fans aren't travelling at the moment.

Push the game west and maybe you get a few more thousand, but that isn't much. And then which ground - Campbo? It already gets it's allotted 4 and costs us money. That leaves Homebush, which is a great stadium when filled, but I was at the Rabbits game and with 11.5 thousand it felt mostly empty (and statistically it was).

I think SFS has a good atmosphere, people are happy to travel and for some reason it tends to produce consistently good quality games. Crowd proved it on a day with dubious weather.

Spartan is right - if this was Tigers vs Souths we would be up around mid to high 20 thousands.
 
@jirskyr said:
Push the game west and maybe you get a few more thousand, but that isn't much. And then which ground - Campbo? It already gets it's allotted 4 and costs us money.

Does Campbelltown cost the club no matter the level of attendance? Campbelltown has had two crowds above 16,000, surely the club made money off these matches?
 
The NRL should guarantee the Tigers the same money that the SFS does, and cover the difference b/w what they receive at LO and CS. But they wont. Other clubs would whinge too much.
 
That was a huge wrap for our team from a highly respected coach - congrats boys and keep up the great work til the job is done and the Premiership won! :sign:
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@jirskyr said:
Push the game west and maybe you get a few more thousand, but that isn't much. And then which ground - Campbo? It already gets it's allotted 4 and costs us money.

Does Campbelltown cost the club no matter the level of attendance? Campbelltown has had two crowds above 16,000, surely the club made money off these matches?

I am of the understanding that we play SFS because it gives us the biggest profit after deals with the stadium. Not privvy to current figures, but games at LO and CSS used not to be profitable, esp the night ones with lighting costs.
 
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