Greg Inglis to retire in 2020

Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.
 
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Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.

Plus what he did damages the integrity of the game, on the field. You can’t compare that to players who commit assault or drink drive.
 
Second chances are given to players that are desirable to clubs. If Tim has got enough interest from clubs he should get his second chance, and based on the history of second chances given by the NRL - if its a fair system for all and he is reformed and "appolgetic" - he should be entitled to it.
 
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Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

**Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.**

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.

Thats ridiculous - what about all the lowlifes in the game - and we have one of them - that have beaten people to within an inch of their lives and the tough guy wife beaters. I'm guessing its ok for them to play. Oh and all the people who pledge money on a telethon and don't pay up - lets bring them to justice as well. And all those who inadvertently find something in their shopping and don't go back and pay for it - I want them brought to justice as well.
 
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Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

**Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.**

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.

Thats ridiculous - what about all the lowlifes in the game - and we have one of them - that have beaten people to within an inch of their lives and the tough guy wife beaters. I'm guessing its ok for them to play. Oh and all the people who pledge money on a telethon and don't pay up - lets bring them to justice as well. And all those who inadvertently find something in their shopping and don't go back and pay for it - I want them brought to justice as well.

Don't forget people that find money on the ground & don't hand it in at the police station.
 
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The hole gets deeper…lol

What hole?

When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.
 
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Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

**Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.**

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.

Thats ridiculous - what about all the lowlifes in the game - and we have one of them - that have beaten people to within an inch of their lives and the tough guy wife beaters. I'm guessing its ok for them to play. Oh and all the people who pledge money on a telethon and don't pay up - lets bring them to justice as well. And all those who inadvertently find something in their shopping and don't go back and pay for it - I want them brought to justice as well.

It’s a different kettle of fish. While assault is more reprehensible in general society, it doesn’t affect the integrity of the game in the same way it does when a player places bets on games they are involved in.
 
Regardless of how good he is as a player, his domestic violence history should have seen him refused a reference form Greenburg. That Greenburg has seen fit to provide the reference undermines the integrity of the NRL.

”In 2009, South Sydney captain Greg Inglis was charged with assaulting his now-wife Sally Robinson, but escaped conviction in 2010with a diversion order to attend a men’s behaviour change program and a $3,000 donation to a women’s health service"

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/greg-inglis-avoids-conviction-over-assault-charge-20100412-s2lg.html
 
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Are you trying to argue that he did not place bets on the players he was marking? **Or are you arguing thst even though he did, there is no eveidence that it did affect games?** To which I would say, it doesn’t matter. Even the intent to sabotage is just as bad as it would be if he succeeded. Not sure why he’s being defended here.

The second point (bolded) is what I’m arguing. And I argue that it does matter… there is a big difference between conspiring to fix a match and then actively following through with that during the game (Tandy), vs placing incredibly stupid bets but then still playing the game as usual... I haven’t seen any evidence that Simona tanked on game day.

I don’t see why that matters. He still placed bets on his opposing number. Are we supposed to believe if his opposite number was in a scoring position that he still would have given it his all to stop him from scoring?

That’s what I believe yes, because there is no evidence to the contrary. Three scenarios:
1) a tennis player bets on his opponent, actively throws the match to win the money, and succeeds in doing so
2) a tennis player bets on his opponent, plans to actively throw the match but either does not have the opportunity or is unsuccessful
3) a tennis player bets on his opponent, so if he loses he has a sort of consolation prize. He still goes out and gives 100% effort to win the match

I believe Simona is scenario number 3, sounds like you believe 1/2\. What Simona did was incredibly stupid, but IMO it does not compare to what Tandy did, because I haven’t seen evidence of Simona throwing parts of the game, so I’m giving the benefit of the doubt (scenario 3 vs scenario 2)

Scenario 2 in regards to a tennis player not having the opportunity to throw a game???
I do get your point though. Imo there is only 1 person who can answer 1 2 or 3 truthfully . What long term precedence would it set if you allowed him back in even if you believe scenario 3.
 
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Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

**Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.**

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.

Thats ridiculous - what about all the lowlifes in the game - and we have one of them - that have beaten people to within an inch of their lives and the tough guy wife beaters. I'm guessing its ok for them to play. Oh and all the people who pledge money on a telethon and don't pay up - lets bring them to justice as well. And all those who inadvertently find something in their shopping and don't go back and pay for it - I want them brought to justice as well.

It is not ridiculous - they will all answer for their actions in the end, same as I will answer for mine.
 
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The hole gets deeper…lol

What hole?

When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Who cares if people on a forum classify it as match-fixing? The NRL DIDN'T classify it as match-fixing. End of argument.
Love your conspiracy theories though re: Tandy. They're a blast!
 
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What hole?

When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Who cares if people on a forum classify it as match-fixing? The NRL DIDN'T classify it as match-fixing. End of argument.
Love your conspiracy theories though re: Tandy. They're a blast!

Wait, are you actually defending the NRL? :roll
 
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Who cares?

Players are not supposed to bet on games they are playing in.

**Second point - much more serious (not really related to football, just on this occasion) he ripped off charities - should be banned for life just for that.**

Yes! - back room boys rip off charities (even places like Oxfam take 10%) that doesn't make what Simona did, right. These other scumbags should be brought to justice as well.

Does not make a difference if it is $1 or $10,000 it is still theft.

Thats ridiculous - what about all the lowlifes in the game - and we have one of them - that have beaten people to within an inch of their lives and the tough guy wife beaters. I'm guessing its ok for them to play. Oh and all the people who pledge money on a telethon and don't pay up - lets bring them to justice as well. And all those who inadvertently find something in their shopping and don't go back and pay for it - I want them brought to justice as well.

It is not ridiculous - they will all answer for their actions in the end, same as I will answer for mine.

Hmmm - i think i get the picture now.
 
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When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Who cares if people on a forum classify it as match-fixing? The NRL DIDN'T classify it as match-fixing. End of argument.
Love your conspiracy theories though re: Tandy. They're a blast!

Wait, are you actually defending the NRL? :roll

There is nothing there that is even remotely associated with defending the NRL. It states that the NRL did not charge Simona with match-fixing, thus blowing your continued Forrest Gump-like bleating that he was a match-fixer out of the water.
Nice deflection though, it is just a shame moronic things that are posted are usually stuck there for all to see….....and laugh at :laughing:
Tell us again how Simona was a match-fixer. And "saboteur" :roll You can fit both feet in your gob if you try hard enough champ, keep at it!

Tim Simona was not charged with match-fixing.
Hope that puts your mind at rest.
 
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You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Who cares if people on a forum classify it as match-fixing? The NRL DIDN'T classify it as match-fixing. End of argument.
Love your conspiracy theories though re: Tandy. They're a blast!

Wait, are you actually defending the NRL? :roll

There is nothing there that is even remotely associated with defending the NRL. It states that the NRL did not charge Simona with match-fixing, thus blowing your continued Forrest Gump-like bleating that he was a match-fixer out of the water.
Nice deflection though, it is just a shame moronic things that are posted are usually stuck there for all to see….....and laugh at :laughing:
Tell us again how Simona was a match-fixer. And "saboteur" :roll You can fit both feet in your gob if you try hard enough champ, keep at it!

Tim Simona was not charged with match-fixing.
Hope that puts your mind at rest.

You sound like an NRL infiltrator
 
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The hole gets deeper…lol

What hole?

When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Was Simona charged with attempting to sabotage games…?
 
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What hole?

When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Was Simona charged with attempting to sabotage games…?

Is sabotage a legal term? It’s like conservatives arguing collusion isn’t a crime. It isn’t, because in legal terms, collusion isn’t a thing. Is sabotage?
 
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Who cares if people on a forum classify it as match-fixing? The NRL DIDN'T classify it as match-fixing. End of argument.
Love your conspiracy theories though re: Tandy. They're a blast!

Wait, are you actually defending the NRL? :roll

There is nothing there that is even remotely associated with defending the NRL. It states that the NRL did not charge Simona with match-fixing, thus blowing your continued Forrest Gump-like bleating that he was a match-fixer out of the water.
Nice deflection though, it is just a shame moronic things that are posted are usually stuck there for all to see….....and laugh at :laughing:
Tell us again how Simona was a match-fixer. And "saboteur" :roll You can fit both feet in your gob if you try hard enough champ, keep at it!

Tim Simona was not charged with match-fixing.
Hope that puts your mind at rest.

You sound like an NRL infiltrator

That's pretty hard-hitting :slight_smile:

Good to see your argument eventually fizzled out into that :laughing:
 
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When you can answer why Simona was never charged with match fixing sensibly you will have your answer…

You must have missed my reply to Steve. I conceded if you don’t want to classify it as match fixing, fine. The crux is he was still attempting to sabotage games, while wearing our jersey.

Was Simona charged with attempting to sabotage games…?

Is sabotage a legal term? It’s like conservatives arguing collusion isn’t a crime. It isn’t, because in legal terms, collusion isn’t a thing. Is sabotage?

Well good at least you realise now your orignal claim that Simona was a match fixer was utterly ridiculous…as many others have pointed out...
 
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