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[Geo]

Assume you’re talking to me?

Ryan Tandy was classified as a match fixer for betting on a penalty goal .How’s that different to Simona?

Because he gave away the penalty and was directly involved in the betting sting of other people on that game and received cash to do,,..Simona was never charged with Match Fixing by the NRL or the courts..never received cash from outside parties to influence the result of a game..he was just an idiot..

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There’s no point going back and forth. Just look up the definition of match fixing and get back to me.

Why wasn't Simona charged with match fixing..?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Because he gave away the penalty and was directly involved in the betting sting of other people on that game and received cash to do,,..Simona was never charged with Match Fixing by the NRL or the courts..never received cash from outside parties to influence the result of a game..he was just an idiot..

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There’s no point going back and forth. Just look up the definition of match fixing and get back to me.

Why wasn't Simona charged with match fixing..?

Maybe it was a conspiracy against Tandy, and the NRL favoured us for a change?

 

[newtiger]

lol Rubbish..

Assume you’re talking to me?

Ryan Tandy was classified as a match fixer for betting on a penalty goal .How’s that different to Simona?

Because he gave away the penalty and was directly involved in the betting sting of other people on that game and received cash to do,,..Simona was never charged with Match Fixing by the NRL or the courts..never received cash from outside parties to influence the result of a game..he was just an idiot..

X2.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Who cares about Simona. He was fixing games while wearing our jersey. Drawing a long bow bringing him into it.

Who cares about Simona? Obviously not the NRL, he was turfed out with no 2nd chance. Whereas "GI The Untouchable" is mollycoddled, hailed as brave for admitting to drink-driving and given a character reference by the NRL CEO.
Double standards any way you look at it.
What difference does Simona "wearing our jersey" make to any of it?
No long bow…....just an example of the inequality within the NRL.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Assume you’re talking to me?

Ryan Tandy was classified as a match fixer for betting on a penalty goal .How’s that different to Simona?

Because he gave away the penalty and was directly involved in the betting sting of other people on that game and received cash to do,,..Simona was never charged with Match Fixing by the NRL or the courts..never received cash from outside parties to influence the result of a game..he was just an idiot..

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Owned !

:laughing:

Aaaaaaand still nothing!!

Those crickets are getting bloody loud.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Who cares about Simona. He was fixing games while wearing our jersey. Drawing a long bow bringing him into it.

Who cares about Simona? Obviously not the NRL, he was turfed out with no 2nd chance. Whereas "GI The Untouchable" is mollycoddled, hailed as brave for admitting to drink-driving and given a character reference by the NRL CEO.
Double standards any way you look at it.
What difference does Simona "wearing our jersey" make to any of it?
No long bow…....just an example of the inequality within the NRL.

Why would you want to give a second chance to a guy who sabatagoed games wearing our jersey?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Because he gave away the penalty and was directly involved in the betting sting of other people on that game and received cash to do,,..Simona was never charged with Match Fixing by the NRL or the courts..never received cash from outside parties to influence the result of a game..he was just an idiot..

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Owned !

:laughing:

Aaaaaaand still nothing!!

Those crickets are getting bloody loud.

I replied. I know you are 2 hours behind over there, but try and keep up.

 

[steve-o]

Definition of match fixing: the action or practice of dishonestly determining the outcome of a match before it is played.

Where is the evidence that Simona did this?

Note that a player betting against his team isn’t even evidence of match fixing… it is motive, but not evidence.

Ryan Tandy example of spot fixing... motive is he and others bet on a cowboys penalty goal to be the first scoring play. Evidence? Tandy dropped the ball on the kickoff, and then gave away the most obvious penalty you will ever see... he was holding down the tackled play for an eternity, and right in front of the goal posts.

So I ask again... where’s the evidence of Simona match fixing (do you mean spot fixing)?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Definition of match fixing: the action or practice of dishonestly determining the outcome of a match before it is played.

Where is the evidence that Simona did this?

Note that a player betting against his team isn’t even evidence of match fixing… it is motive, but not evidence.

Ryan Tandy example of spot fixing... motive is he and others bet on a cowboys penalty goal to be the first scoring play. Evidence? Tandy dropped the ball on the kickoff, and then gave away the most obvious penalty you will ever see... he was holding down the tackled play for an eternity, and right in front of the goal posts.

So I ask again... where’s the evidence of Simona match fixing (do you mean spot fixing)?

We’re splitting hairs now. He was determining the outcome of aspects of the match. If you want to call that spot fixing over match fixing, fine. The crux of the matter is he deliberately went out there in our jersey and sabotaged games. That is undisputed.

 

[steve-o]

Definition of match fixing: the action or practice of dishonestly determining the outcome of a match before it is played.

Where is the evidence that Simona did this?

Note that a player betting against his team isn’t even evidence of match fixing… it is motive, but not evidence.

Ryan Tandy example of spot fixing... motive is he and others bet on a cowboys penalty goal to be the first scoring play. Evidence? Tandy dropped the ball on the kickoff, and then gave away the most obvious penalty you will ever see... he was holding down the tackled play for an eternity, and right in front of the goal posts.

So I ask again... where’s the evidence of Simona match fixing (do you mean spot fixing)?

We’re splitting hairs now. He was determining the outcome of aspects of the match. If you want to call that spot fixing over match fixing, fine. The crux of the matter is he deliberately went out there in our jersey and sabotaged games. That is undisputed.

When did he actually sabotage a game though? Again to compare with Tandy… watch the first two minutes of that dogs-cowboys game... it’s pretty obvious. Where is the game film that shows Simona doing similar? I’m not saying it’s not out there, I’ve just never seen it

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Definition of match fixing: the action or practice of dishonestly determining the outcome of a match before it is played.

Where is the evidence that Simona did this?

Note that a player betting against his team isn’t even evidence of match fixing… it is motive, but not evidence.

Ryan Tandy example of spot fixing... motive is he and others bet on a cowboys penalty goal to be the first scoring play. Evidence? Tandy dropped the ball on the kickoff, and then gave away the most obvious penalty you will ever see... he was holding down the tackled play for an eternity, and right in front of the goal posts.

So I ask again... where’s the evidence of Simona match fixing (do you mean spot fixing)?

We’re splitting hairs now. He was determining the outcome of aspects of the match. If you want to call that spot fixing over match fixing, fine. The crux of the matter is he deliberately went out there in our jersey and sabotaged games. That is undisputed.

When did he actually sabotage a game though? Again to compare with Tandy… watch the first two minutes of that dogs-cowboys game... it’s pretty obvious. Where is the game film that shows Simona doing similar? I’m not saying it’s not out there, I’ve just never seen it

Are you trying to argue that he did not place bets on the players he was marking? Or are you arguing thst even though he did, there is no eveidence that it did affect games? To which I would say, it doesn’t matter. Even the intent to sabotage is just as bad as it would be if he succeeded. Not sure why he’s being defended here.

 

[steve-o]

Definition of match fixing: the action or practice of dishonestly determining the outcome of a match before it is played.

Where is the evidence that Simona did this?

Note that a player betting against his team isn’t even evidence of match fixing… it is motive, but not evidence.

Ryan Tandy example of spot fixing... motive is he and others bet on a cowboys penalty goal to be the first scoring play. Evidence? Tandy dropped the ball on the kickoff, and then gave away the most obvious penalty you will ever see... he was holding down the tackled play for an eternity, and right in front of the goal posts.

So I ask again... where’s the evidence of Simona match fixing (do you mean spot fixing)?

We’re splitting hairs now. He was determining the outcome of aspects of the match. If you want to call that spot fixing over match fixing, fine. The crux of the matter is he deliberately went out there in our jersey and sabotaged games. That is undisputed.

When did he actually sabotage a game though? Again to compare with Tandy… watch the first two minutes of that dogs-cowboys game... it’s pretty obvious. Where is the game film that shows Simona doing similar? I’m not saying it’s not out there, I’ve just never seen it

Are you trying to argue that he did not place bets on the players he was marking? **Or are you arguing thst even though he did, there is no eveidence that it did affect games?** To which I would say, it doesn’t matter. Even the intent to sabotage is just as bad as it would be if he succeeded. Not sure why he’s being defended here.

The second point (bolded) is what I’m arguing. And I argue that it does matter… there is a big difference between conspiring to fix a match and then actively following through with that during the game (Tandy), vs placing incredibly stupid bets but then still playing the game as usual... I haven’t seen any evidence that Simona tanked on game day.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We’re splitting hairs now. He was determining the outcome of aspects of the match. If you want to call that spot fixing over match fixing, fine. The crux of the matter is he deliberately went out there in our jersey and sabotaged games. That is undisputed.

When did he actually sabotage a game though? Again to compare with Tandy… watch the first two minutes of that dogs-cowboys game... it’s pretty obvious. Where is the game film that shows Simona doing similar? I’m not saying it’s not out there, I’ve just never seen it

Are you trying to argue that he did not place bets on the players he was marking? **Or are you arguing thst even though he did, there is no eveidence that it did affect games?** To which I would say, it doesn’t matter. Even the intent to sabotage is just as bad as it would be if he succeeded. Not sure why he’s being defended here.

The second point (bolded) is what I’m arguing. And I argue that it does matter… there is a big difference between conspiring to fix a match and then actively following through with that during the game (Tandy), vs placing incredibly stupid bets but then still playing the game as usual... I haven’t seen any evidence that Simona tanked on game day.

I don’t see why that matters. He still placed bets on his opposing number. Are we supposed to believe if his opposite number was in a scoring position that he still would have given it his all to stop him from scoring?

 

[steve-o]

When did he actually sabotage a game though? Again to compare with Tandy… watch the first two minutes of that dogs-cowboys game... it’s pretty obvious. Where is the game film that shows Simona doing similar? I’m not saying it’s not out there, I’ve just never seen it

Are you trying to argue that he did not place bets on the players he was marking? **Or are you arguing thst even though he did, there is no eveidence that it did affect games?** To which I would say, it doesn’t matter. Even the intent to sabotage is just as bad as it would be if he succeeded. Not sure why he’s being defended here.

The second point (bolded) is what I’m arguing. And I argue that it does matter… there is a big difference between conspiring to fix a match and then actively following through with that during the game (Tandy), vs placing incredibly stupid bets but then still playing the game as usual... I haven’t seen any evidence that Simona tanked on game day.

I don’t see why that matters. He still placed bets on his opposing number. Are we supposed to believe if his opposite number was in a scoring position that he still would have given it his all to stop him from scoring?

That’s what I believe yes, because there is no evidence to the contrary. Three scenarios:
1) a tennis player bets on his opponent, actively throws the match to win the money, and succeeds in doing so
2) a tennis player bets on his opponent, plans to actively throw the match but either does not have the opportunity or is unsuccessful
3) a tennis player bets on his opponent, so if he loses he has a sort of consolation prize. He still goes out and gives 100% effort to win the match

I believe Simona is scenario number 3, sounds like you believe 1/2\. What Simona did was incredibly stupid, but IMO it does not compare to what Tandy did, because I haven’t seen evidence of Simona throwing parts of the game, so I’m giving the benefit of the doubt (scenario 3 vs scenario 2)

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Are you trying to argue that he did not place bets on the players he was marking? **Or are you arguing thst even though he did, there is no eveidence that it did affect games?** To which I would say, it doesn’t matter. Even the intent to sabotage is just as bad as it would be if he succeeded. Not sure why he’s being defended here.

The second point (bolded) is what I’m arguing. And I argue that it does matter… there is a big difference between conspiring to fix a match and then actively following through with that during the game (Tandy), vs placing incredibly stupid bets but then still playing the game as usual... I haven’t seen any evidence that Simona tanked on game day.

I don’t see why that matters. He still placed bets on his opposing number. Are we supposed to believe if his opposite number was in a scoring position that he still would have given it his all to stop him from scoring?

That’s what I believe yes, because there is no evidence to the contrary. Three scenarios:
1) a tennis player bets on his opponent, actively throws the match to win the money, and succeeds in doing so
2) a tennis player bets on his opponent, plans to actively throw the match but either does not have the opportunity or is unsuccessful
3) a tennis player bets on his opponent, so if he loses he has a sort of consolation prize. He still goes out and gives 100% effort to win the match

I believe Simona is scenario number 3, sounds like you believe 1/2\. What Simona did was incredibly stupid, but IMO it does not compare to what Tandy did, because I haven’t seen evidence of Simona throwing parts of the game, so I’m giving the benefit of the doubt (scenario 3 vs scenario 2)

Really not sure why you would believe Simona would have fit into category 3\. Need I remind you at the same time this was happening he was on drugs, and was ripping off charities. Wasn’t exactly an upstanding person at that time. I really don’t think he would have been putting bets on, to not try and win. People with gambling addictions don’t think that way.

 

[steve-o]

As I said, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt as I haven’t seen any in-game evidence that has led me to believe he was dogging it. Each to their own

 

[Geo]

The hole gets deeper…lol

 

[jadtiger]

As I said, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt as I haven’t seen any in-game evidence that has led me to believe he was dogging it. Each to their own

Agreed.Simona behaved terribly over the charity rip off but the betting was more the act of an idiot rather than an attempt to affect a game result.

 

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Owned !

:laughing:

Aaaaaaand still nothing!!

Those crickets are getting bloody loud.

I replied. I know you are 2 hours behind over there, but try and keep up.

3 hours behind champ. Keep up eh!
Was that the post where you said maybe it was a conspiracy against Ryan Tandy??? :laughing: Nice one :roll

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The hole gets deeper…lol

What hole?