Harrigan and Raper new refs' coaches

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Harrigan and Raper new refs' coaches
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NRL Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:58:00
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The National Rugby League has today unveiled another key step in the progression of full-time refereeing with the appointment of dual coaches to manage the AAMI refereeing squad in next year’s Telstra Premiership.
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Bill Harrigan and Stuart Raper will head refereeing in 2011 in a dual coaching model that recognises the growing opportunities to develop refereeing’s full-time professional squad.
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The appointments are an acknowledgement of the increasing demands on refereeing including the need for consultation with coaches and players while developing the skills of referees.
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“Stuart and Bill working together with equal authority will be able to increase the communication processes between referees, coaches and players,” NRL Chief Executive, Mr David Gallop, said today.
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“There will be clear areas of responsibility. Bill’s experience in the technical aspects of refereeing speaks for itself, while Stuart’s ability to consult with coaches, integrate training programs and continue to adapt to the changing trends of the game are an important part of the program’s success.
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“Refereeing remains one of the most critical aspects of the sport and the speed and intricacies of modern coaching, along with the scrutiny of modern media technology have taken it into new areas.
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“We’ve invested heavily in keeping pace with those changes, introduced a two refereeing model, a full-time refereeing squad and development programs targeting former players.
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“The dual coaching role is a reflection of that ongoing commitment.”
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Stuart Raper and Bill Harrigan will officially take over the squad from next Monday.
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“It’s going to be a new experience for both of us and one that will allow us to make some changes to the way refereeing is developed,” former Challenge Cup winning coach and former Cronulla coach, Raper, said today.
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“I’ve had the advantage of being on both the coaching and refereeing side of the equation and the importance of referees keeping pace with the changes in the game itself has never been higher.
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“There’s no better person to work with in adapting those changes to the technical aspects of refereeing than Bill and that’s why I see this as being such a promising partnership.”
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The most successful referee of the modern era, appointed to a record seven consecutive Grand Finals, Bill Harrigan said today that he was excited about the opportunities ahead:
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“There are certainly some changes I think that we can introduce to the way we prepare and appoint referees.
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“Both Stuart and I want to see referees have every possible support but we also want them to know that they have to make decisions and be responsible for those decisions.
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“This is a new role that gives me significantly greater input and I also have to be responsible for the decisions I make.
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“Robert Finch was great to work with and lifted the overall professionalism of the referees to a new level.
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“It is up to Stuart and I to make our own contribution to the process and this is certainly a very different role to the one I have been in.
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“I believe we have a really strong squad to work with and I think there will be some changes to the way the game is refereed as a result.”

I don't know if I should laugh or cry…..
 
This is a fricking disgrace!

This bloke is a blight on the game - and Raper just keeps getting posts because of his surname!
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Didn't really think the standard of refereeing could get any worse… It just has...
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When does the independent board start operating? Maybe, they will stop this "jobs for the boys" that continues to be a blight on the game!

Joint bosses is the best recipe for disaster, as any management person with ability will tell you. This means no-one really has the authority to make any decisions, so none get made in reasonable time. I suppose it could be worse, it could be run by a committee.
 
:laughing: is all I can say plus…

What a JOKE!!!!!

Didn't Billy punt himself for a monumental stuff up in an end of season game??????

Now David ...you muppet go and appoint him refs Boss with Raper a News LTD suck job as his side kick....No wonder Rugby League remans stagnant while Gallop and his News LTD lackies are still running the GAME.. :brick: Thank God its such a great Product..

Where's Watto...bring on the INDEPENDANT COMMISSION...
 
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Harrigan wants more confident NRL referees
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Adrian Warren AAP Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:40:56
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Bill Harrigan called for referees to be more confident and decisive after admitting they had been below his desired standard this year.
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Former top referee Harrigan and ex-Cronulla first grade coach Stuart Raper were on Wednesday appointed dual coaches of the NRL premiership referees for next year.
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Harrigan and Raper, who replace Robert Finch, will officially take over next Monday.
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NRL boss David Gallop said the two men would bring different expertise to the position and would share the responsibility and perform different roles.
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"He (Harrigan) will be involved in that technical side, and Stuart is going to be able to communicate with current coaches and current and former players," Gallop said.
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Refereeing standards were widely criticised over the past year, with controversy over decisions continuing right up until last weekend's Four Nations final between Australia and New Zealand.
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Harrigan, who has been coaching referees since giving up the whistle himself, conceded it had not been a great year for the current crop of officials.
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"It's a fair statement to say that refereeing wasn't to a level that we would have liked to have seen it at this year," Harrigan said on Wednesday.
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"I'd like to see us go back to basics and referees start to referee with confidence out there and make some decisions before they start with the video referee all the time.
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"I think there is room for improvement of what we saw this year.
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"I would like to see the referees get in there and back themselves a bit more on the decisions in goal."
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Harrigan defended the fitness of referees and said he was adamant there didn't need to be greater use of video technology in decision making.
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Raper was a part-time assistant to Finch in recent years.
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"After being with the referees in a part-time role for the past three or four years, I've come to understand it's a big job and it's probably too big a job for one person," Raper said.
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Gallop said Raper would probably be the first point of contact for NRL coaches complaining about refereeing decisions, though he emphasised Harrigan wouldn't be "quarantined" from the coaches.
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Raper said he would defer to Harrigan on issues of rule interpretation and refereeing appointments because of his colleague's greater experience in those areas.
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While Harrigan has made some controversial comments in the past, Gallop had no problem with the flamboyant former whistle blower being a strong advocate for the referees.
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"I don't think it hurts in any way to have someone who is forthright about the importance of refereeing in the game and I am confident if Bill is forthright about it, he will do it in the right way," Gallop said.
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Asked if he would admit if referees had made a mistake, Harrigan said: "Absolutely, I've done it in the past and I'll do it in the future."
 
Its been a great day for rugby league, Stuart gets the SOO coaching job and now we have a mini committee running referees, what a joke. Come on Wests Tigers help us to forget these silly decisions by performing well in 2011.
 
Billly wants the refs to "back themselves in-goal"???

What the f…..???!!!

Just because **HE** is ineffective when using the available technology does not mean the technology is ineffective - or that it should not be used 80% of the times when grounding cannot be totally confirmed by the naked eye!!!

Those of us who go to NSW Cup or NYC games know that video replays would only enhance the likelihood of correct try decisions (if that douchebag Hollywood is not behind the screen)!

He is again going to try to make the refs the star of the show!!!

As a Harrigan acolyte - that anti-Tigers pr*ck Maxwell will love it!

All the refs will seek to ingratiate themselves to their new boss by by-passing the video ref & going solo on crtitical try decisions - ultimately throwing the dice and allowing Billy to justify their mistakes with his typical 2SM mantra "I was just pleased to see him make **a** decision rather than rely on the video…"

**Any** independent decision is better than relying on technology according to Bill and Gus Gould!! We as supporters are supposed to ignore whether that decision was RIGHT or WRONG!!!

I hate this bloke with enormous passion…..
 
Greg Prichard writes the following for today's SMH:

Can Bill Harrigan fit the mould of his new job? The freshly appointed boss of the referees, in partnership with Stuart Raper, says he can, but the real test won't come until he is the heat of the action next season, and someone says something that irritates him.

Harrigan has always shot from the hip, and told it as he saw it, which is why he is something of a go-to man for reporters. If you can't get a quote from Billy, you're asking the wrong questions. But, in preparation for this role, he's going to have to take a double dose of diplomacy.

The NRL has gambled by putting Harrigan - and Raper - in charge of the referees, replacing Robert Finch. It would be a gamble no matter who they put on, because it is one of the most difficult roles in the game, but it is going to be particularly interesting to see Billy in charge.

When he was asked, at yesterday's media conference to announce the appointment, whether, because he had been known to be controversial and provocative with his comments over the years, he needed to pull back in this very public of roles - and, if so, whether he could - he was ready.

''In this position, I have taken a step up, and so I have some roles and responsibilities I certainly have to take care of,'' he said.

The media would prefer Harrigan retained shock value, and was prepared to get into the odd slanging match, but that would hinder, rather than help him, in this job, and it certainly wouldn't help the league.

Harrigan got a bit of a grilling yesterday, but he handled it with good humour. Now the real work starts. He readily admits officials had a bad year, and he says that on the occasions they get it wrong next year he'll admit they got it wrong, rather than deny it or look for excuses. Hopefully, he won't have to say it too often.

The NRL wasn't the only one taking a gamble yesterday. Ricky Stuart's appointment as NSW coach for the second time is, on one hand, a great honour for him, but on the other hand he's taking a risk, and so is the NSWRL that appointed him, because there is no guarantee he will see out his two-year term.

Stuart is very keen to coach in the NRL again, and it appears that if he can get a job for 2012 and beyond, the NSWRL will release him from the second year of his contract. But if he hasn't arranged anything before next year's Origin series goes ahead, and then the Blues lose the series, it can only hurt his chances.

There is no guarantee Stuart is going to turn NSW around, after they have lost five series in a row to Queensland. He did well to be the last coach to win a series with the Blues, in 2005, but it must be remembered that he had a dynamic Andrew Johns in his side. There is no ''Joey'' around for the Blues this time.

Stuart knows how tough it's going to be to turn the Maroons back, but he is a ferocious competitor, so he will give it his best shot for as long as he is there.

It is a good end to an ordinary year for ''Sticky'', who split with struggling Cronulla midway through the season. Harrigan had a big down as well, when he came up with the video refereeing clanger of the year, but he has bounced back to take refereeing's top job. League - it's the game that just keeps on giving.

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Rugby league's fiercest critics and enemies must be laughing themselves stupid at how we continually shoot ourselves in both feet with these sort of charitable jobs for the same non-performing clowns!!!

In AFL nobody knows or cares who the umpires are!
 
@redemption said:
Billly wants the refs to "back themselves in-goal"???

What the f…..???!!!

Just because **HE** is ineffective when using the available technology does not mean the technology is ineffective - or that it should not be used 80% of the times when grounding cannot be totally confirmed by the naked eye!!!

Those of us who go to NSW Cup or NYC games know that video replays would only enhance the likelihood of correct try decisions (if that douchebag Hollywood is not behind the screen)!

He is again going to try to make the refs the star of the show!!!

As a Harrigan acolyte - that anti-Tigers pr*ck Maxwell will love it!

All the refs will seek to ingratiate themselves to their new boss by by-passing the video ref & going solo on crtitical try decisions - ultimately throwing the dice and allowing Billy to justify their mistakes with his typical 2SM mantra "I was just pleased to see him make **a** decision rather than rely on the video…"

**Any** independent decision is better than relying on technology according to Bill and Gus Gould!! We as supporters are supposed to ignore whether that decision was RIGHT or WRONG!!!

I hate this bloke with enormous passion…..
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The following from Glenn Jackson in today's SMH provides the moron's justification for the above-mentioned:

ONE thing Bill Harrigan has never been afraid of is making a decision - and then backing himself that he made the right one. So, to ensure the NRL's referees do similarly, Harrigan plans to make a few more in his new role as referees co-coach.

Harrigan, who will take up the position alongside former Cronulla coach Stuart Raper, has already foreshadowed changes to the way referees officiate NRL matches. Most notable would appear his early declaration that the officials rely too heavily on the video referee; he plans to urge his whistleblowers to scale back on their use of the technology.

''The comments I have made to the referees was, 'If you get to the position, and you see it … when you're drawing the square to go upstairs, if you know it's a dead-set green light or red light, why are you doing that? Make the decision.'

''If they have any doubt, you obviously check it. **(OBVIOUSLY - but when has Bill ever been less than 100% certain???)**

''If you referee with confidence, you'll build that confidence, and if you build that confidence you'll perform even better. Don't send it up if you're looking at it and you know this is a try - make the try and back yourself.''

Asked if he felt some officials had been using the technology even when 100 per cent certain, Harrigan said: ''I do on some occasions. On some occasions, I feel that they were in a great position and they could have made a decision.

''The video referee was brought in to check a try if you have doubt. If you don't have doubt, give the try. And I think we've moved away from that.''

Which already puts him at slight odds with his boss, NRL chief executive David Gallop, who is comfortable with the referees' use of video review. Asked if he wanted the video referee used less, Gallop said: ''Not necessarily. I think all sports grapple with how much to use the technology - you only have to look at tennis, cricket, the football World Cup last year. I'm pretty comfortable with the way we use it at the moment but … If they've got suggested changes, I'll be listening.''

Harrigan, really, would like to see the referees officiate as he did, with confidence and without fear. Admitting that there were ''in-house issues'' within the refereeing ranks and that standards had slipped in the past year, which led to the demise of his predecessor, Robert Finch, he said he planned to take a ''back to basics'' approach.

Harrigan strongly suggested the contentious separation rule for grounding of the football would be assessed and possibly adjusted. But the two-referee system will stay - for now.

''We've got a two-refereeing system that's been there for two years … and you've got to give that a chance,'' Harrigan said. ''I think it's been going very well, and I'd like to see that continue.''

Perhaps contradicting himself slightly, Harrigan conceded that the referees had had a bad year, the second in the dual referees era.

''I think there is room for improvement on what we saw this year,'' he said.

Raper was under no illusions about the job the pair faced.

''We know the task ahead of us,'' he said. ''We're not going to live in a perfect world - referees are going to make mistakes.

''It's about trying to make sure that we don't make the same mistake continually.''

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He still fails to realise the difference between confidence and bloody-minded arrogance!!!
 
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