HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[PrattenParkMagpie]

You seem very active on these topics I noticed lol, probably 100s of posts on the topic.

Anyway, I haven't noticed anyone diminishing Balmain's brand through the tigers or their history on here really, which is the way it should be.

But I have noticed Wests Magpies history denigrated and as I have mentioned previously many pushing for just a Tigers brand or a disconnect of the Wests brand from its traditional history, so I don't know what you referring to there..

You've been able to observe that in just 5 days, total rot.

Another debenture holder has joined the forum.

 

[weststigers]

Think you'll find this poster is referring to a suggestion the club be named "Tigers" not Wests Tigers.

Which would diminish the Magpies brand.

And it was suggested on here. You just overlooked it.

I saw it. But it's made out like it's the defining thought of the forum. Nobody agreed with that post.

 

[weststigers]

I think it's disrespectful to call people older than yourself a dinosaur.

I'm nearly 80 yoa...and I feel I still think and spell just as well as most of you, and maybe even better than some.

So, drop the dinosaur tag please unless you know the people personally and know they are not functioning properly.

Out of everything the guy said, you chose to engage with one word you didn't like instead of the central point he was making?

 

[The Chad]

It's all puzzling but you can bet that someone on the board is going to have the NRL on speed dial or wearing a wire lol.

I mean, it's possible.

The independents, I can't imagine there's any way they agree to return to a position on a board that isn't of some use.

I wonder if the reports from those independents to PVL prior to their reinstatement don't paint the same story as we believe?

The only position NOT to be include as part of the PVL intervention was the return of Richo.

Barry O'Farrell's mate.

That doesn't ring true, does it? You'd think Barry would have been 100% behind a Richo return?

 

[weststigers]

I mean, it's possible.

The independents, I can't imagine there's any way they agree to return to a position on a board that isn't of some use.

I wonder if the reports from those independents to PVL prior to their reinstatement don't paint the same story as we believe?

The only position NOT to be include as part of the PVL intervention was the return of Richo.

Barry O'Farrell's mate.

That doesn't ring true, does it? You'd think Barry would have been 100% behind a Richo return?

I think the stark distinction is the board members were dismissed, whereas Richo resigned.

 

[The Chad]

I think the stark distinction is the board members were dismissed, whereas Richo resigned.

That could explain it, for sure.

Why would you think 3 independents would agree to walk back onto a board they hold no power over?

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

I mean, it's possible.

The independents, I can't imagine there's any way they agree to return to a position on a board that isn't of some use.

I wonder if the reports from those independents to PVL prior to their reinstatement don't paint the same story as we believe?

The only position NOT to be include as part of the PVL intervention was the return of Richo.

Barry O'Farrell's mate.

That doesn't ring true, does it? You'd think Barry would have been 100% behind a Richo return?

I think Richo was sick of banging his head against a wall, that video that came out suggested that he was trying to bring in more investment to enable us to grow and they wouldn't have a bar of it.

Without it his hands were tied, no other way to improve the club beyond what he had already achieved their paranoia put the brakes on.

 

[69-05-41]

The riot squad was there...along with a.lot of cops...wests ashfield raised concerns with the local cops...wating their time and taxpayers money

If they wheeled out the riot squad and police for 900 well mannered supporters today then with 10,000-plus attending Round 2 can we expect sniffer dogs, Polair, water cannons, rubber bullets and pepper spray? Why not lock out supporters completely so the HBG Board can be escorted by police to their "owners" box for free party pies and warm beers without having to see a single orange jersey.

 

[weststigers]

That could explain it, for sure.

Why would you think 3 independents would agree to walk back onto a board they hold no power over?

I honestly think they are one step removed from NRL administrators. I think their job is to report to the NRL.

It's an opinion. I have no factual basis for it.

It's the only way I can see them accepting a situation that is frankly untenable. Particularly given how they were so publicly terminated and smeared.

 

[The Chad]

I think Richo was sick of banging his head against a wall, that video that came out suggested that he was trying to bring in more investment to enable us to grow and they wouldn't have a bar of it.

Without it his hands were tied, no other way to improve the club beyond what he had already achieved their paranoia put the brakes on.

Again, that is possible.

The 'complaints' levelled at the very beginning of the whole mess by HBG were about transparency on some business level decisions. They ousted board members.

Those board members are reinstated after PVL intervention, and they agree to come back.

But PVL also spoke to HBG, so he must have heard about their complaint as well.

Richo was integral to gaining investment & organising stadium agreements.

Is it possible HBG believed the board had been involved, but got that wrong & were convinced to take them back- but the blame of the complaint has now been shifted toward Richo?

There is still the shadow of the investigation on Richo, despite everyone believing it's a trumped up charge.

For mine- and I'm just looking at it from what is happening- I can see a possibility that PVL agreed that HBG should have had more say & could understand where the conflict comes from.

Everyone is convinced this is about board control.

The only thing we KNOW from HBG is that they complained they were not consulted on business decisions.

Board control- their desire for it- is something we are willing to believe, but it's still speculation.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just over 54,000 homes with over 22,000 built, 568ha of open space, Leppington Station and town centre, upgrades to roads and 239ha of employment land. Add the Macarthur and Wilton growth areas, Narellan, Camden and Campbelltown and you start to appreciate the size of the area. Page 4 provides a Vision, Page 11 a detailed map.

The NRL needs to look at the delivery model for RL in this area as well as our traditional areas.

https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-04/guide-to-the-south-west-growth-area-and-updated-structure-plan.pdf

 

[LiverpoolTiger]

This won't get called out so long as you are in the majority.

I noticed that.

Have become quite addicted to this discussion so I've read most of the pages on this topic and I've noticed it's dominated by that WestsTigers guy.

Also noticed abuse at not only alternative views but nuanced ones.

 

[BZN]

"If we all have the same goal"

I'm curious what that goal is for you?

I hope WTs continue running as they are today with the same number of board room members, and the same mix of board members.
And I don't think for 1 second any of the board want to see the club fail--that's an absolutely ludicrous suggestion by someone that WOULD happily see the board fail for their own miserable reason.
Join in being supportive and we can be one big happy family.

If the rebels continue to rebel and the current garbage continues through to 2030, I'll happily be on the side of anyone that wants to see a return of the MAGPIES....if I haven't fallen off the perch by then.

 

[tigereye]

I reckon 8 or 900 ...hard to say really...it was held on the old Bowls club at the front of pratten on a unused green....a playground next to it higher up with a better vantage point and much more shade had a lot of supporters too

I was up in the shade and your numbers are about right.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Again, that is possible.

The 'complaints' levelled at the very beginning of the whole mess by HBG were about transparency on some business level decisions. They ousted board members.

Those board members are reinstated after PVL intervention, and they agree to come back.

But PVL also spoke to HBG, so he must have heard about their complaint as well.

Richo was integral to gaining investment & organising stadium agreements.

Is it possible HBG believed the board had been involved, but got that wrong & were convinced to take them back- but the blame of the complaint has now been shifted toward Richo?

There is still the shadow of the investigation on Richo, despite everyone believing it's a trumped up charge.

For mine- and I'm just looking at it from what is happening- I can see a possibility that PVL agreed that HBG should have had more say & could understand where the conflict comes from.

Everyone is convinced this is about board control.

The only thing we KNOW from HBG is that they complained they were not consulted on business decisions.

Board control- their desire for it- is something we are willing to believe, but it's still speculation.

Good points but what it all concludes for me is this debenture system has to some degree a 3rd Reich smell to it.

Sorry if this offends anyone.

 

[The Chad]

I noticed that.

Have become quite addicted to this discussion so I've read most of the pages on this topic and I've noticed it's dominated by that WestsTigers guy.

Also noticed abuse at not only alternative views but nuanced ones.

You're only new & I don't know what you're angle is etc. Take everything on face value.

weststigers is not a bad poster on here. I've spoken to him & he's a cool guy as far as I'm concerned. There are a few others on here that have started using similar styles in this 'emotive topic'.

Don't blame the posters for the way this place responds. It's been allowed to happen.

"emotive topic" is a shield to use to allow some aggression to be let out. If you can deal with the consistency of 'education' you are given on here, it's generally a good place to be.

 

[The Chad]

Good points but what it all concludes for me is this debenture system has to some degree a 3rd Reich smell to it.

Sorry if this offends anyone.

My worry is we are blaming the wrong things in this one.

 

[weststigers]

I hope WTs continue running as they are today with the same number of board room members, and the same mix of board members.
And I don't think for 1 second any of the board want to see the club fail--that's an absolutely ludicrous suggestion by someone that WOULD happily see the board fail for their own miserable reason.
Join in being supportive and we can be one big happy family.

If the rebels continue to rebel and the current garbage continues through to 2030, I'll happily be on the side of anyone that wants to see a return of the MAGPIES....if I haven't fallen off the perch by then.

Right. So despite doing really well on and off the field last year, you are only concerned with the make up of the board?

Is it fair to say that prior to last years independent board, the board had been HBG majority for 10 years presiding over the worst period in the clubs history?

Let's for a moment imagine the last 10 years was run under a Balmain majority. Would you be marching to the same tune as now?

 

[NT_Tiger]

If they wheeled out the riot squad and police for 900 well mannered supporters today then with 10,000-plus attending Round 2 can we expect sniffer dogs, Polair, water cannons, rubber bullets and pepper spray? Why not lock out supporters completely so the HBG Board can be escorted by police to their "owners" box for free party pies and warm beers without having to see a single orange jersey.

Except the ones the team is wearing. Poor blokes.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The NRL has 54,000 opportunities to convince parents that their sons and daughters should be playing RL. This means WTs has 54,000 opportunities to unearth the next Cleary, Bula, Luai, Fulton, Gibbs, Makasini etc via our junior development. 54,000 additional households who will watch the NRL on either pay tv or free to air coverage. 54,000 households would potentially fill a new stadium out at Camden, Narellen etc with associated recreational facilities. We need to be far more strategic with our planning.