HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

The Chad said:
Again, that is possible.

The 'complaints' levelled at the very beginning of the whole mess by HBG were about transparency on some business level decisions. They ousted board members.

Those board members are reinstated after PVL intervention, and they agree to come back.

But PVL also spoke to HBG, so he must have heard about their complaint as well.

Richo was integral to gaining investment & organising stadium agreements.

Is it possible HBG believed the board had been involved, but got that wrong & were convinced to take them back- but the blame of the complaint has now been shifted toward Richo?

There is still the shadow of the investigation on Richo, despite everyone believing it's a trumped up charge.

For mine- and I'm just looking at it from what is happening- I can see a possibility that PVL agreed that HBG should have had more say & could understand where the conflict comes from.

Everyone is convinced this is about board control.

The only thing we KNOW from HBG is that they complained they were not consulted on business decisions.

Board control- their desire for it- is something we are willing to believe, but it's still speculation.
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There's one thing we also don't know.

How it's possible that 2 HBG board members slept through all the huge commercial decisions, that cost the independents their jobs, as they were being voted on by the board.
 
BZN said:
If the rebels continue to rebel and the current garbage continues through to 2030, I'll happily be on the side of anyone that wants to see a return of the MAGPIES....if I haven't fallen off the perch by then.
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And that says it all about you. Not about the club, about the end of it. No real Wests Tigers fan is calling for the old clubs to return.

So your arguments are now completely null and void as your true colours are now out.

Do not call out others, as your agenda is now clear, and is not wanted here, within HBG, or anywhere near the WESTS TIGERS.
 
weststigers said:
There's one thing we also don't know.

How it's possible that 2 HBG board members slept through all the huge commercial decisions, that cost the independents their jobs, as they were being voted on by the board.
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How did PVL overlook that?

Unless he didn't. And as I suggested- that blame shifts from the remarkably returned & formerly accused board members & is shifted to the no-longer-there former CEO that was instrumental in ground deals etc?

15 year ground deals- they'd be considered business decisions, yes?
 
The Chad said:
You're only new & I don't know what you're angle is etc. Take everything on face value.

weststigers is not a bad poster on here. I've spoken to him & he's a cool guy as far as I'm concerned. There are a few others on here that have started using similar styles in this 'emotive topic'.

Don't blame the posters for the way this place responds. It's been allowed to happen.

"emotive topic" is a shield to use to allow some aggression to be let out. If you can deal with the consistency of 'education' you are given on here, it's generally a good place to be.
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Thank you Chad. The more people that make excuses for me the better. 😅
 
LiverpoolTiger said:
You seem very active on these topics I noticed lol, probably 100s of posts on the topic.

Anyway, I haven't noticed anyone diminishing Balmain's brand through the tigers or their history on here really, which is the way it should be.

But I have noticed Wests Magpies history denigrated and as I have mentioned previously many pushing for just a Tigers brand or a disconnect of the Wests brand from its traditional history, so I don't know what you referring to there..
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When you refer to the Wests magpies brand, what are you referring to?

The club's name is "Wests Tigers". Wests got the location part of the brand. Tigers got the mascot.

So "Wests" is the first word in the name of the club and I haven't seen anyone suggest we get rid of that. Have I missed something?

The reality is, Balmain is dead as is the Magpie. They were the sacrifices made when forming the joint venture

So I guess back to the original question, what exactly are you suggesting people are trying to kill off form Wests Magpies, other than the self serving owners - who never put the football club first? Furthermore, who is encouraging it?
 
The Chad said:
How did PVL overlook that?

Unless he didn't. And as I suggested- that blame shifts from the remarkably returned & formerly accused board members & is shifted to the no-longer-there former CEO that was instrumental in ground deals etc?

15 year ground deals- they'd be considered business decisions, yes?
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No doubt about it...I think that is universally agreed.

I don't think PVL did overlook that. We can be certain of one thing. The destruction of the board was the catalyst for the NRL getting involved.

If it is in fact true that the stadium details were withheld despite there being HBG members on the board, I doubt the NRL or the independent directors would have any leg to stand on. I certainly don't think they'd have a legal case either as was being considered.

So if we follow your theory that something must have happened for HBG to react in the way they did and were absolutely right to do so, the question remains, why not just dig your heels in rather than invite them back via an arm twist from the NRL?
 
Tom Shines said:
The Wests Tigers owners contribute the least funds of any of the 17 clubs owners
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The Chad said:
Has anyone invited them? Asked them to address the frothing masses?
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That seems like a pretty intelligent thing to do.
To be able to front the hostile herd and give Wests side of the story which may have the effect of calming the "frothing masses".
If the organisers of the rally didn't invite them, they're pretty slack and to me shows all the organisers are interested in is being a frothing mass.
 
BZN said:
That seems like a pretty intelligent thing to do.
To be able to front the hostile herd and give Wests side of the story which may have the effect of calming the "frothing masses".
If the organisers of the rally didn't invite them, they're pretty slack and to me shows all the organisers are interested in is being a frothing mass.
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Yet alternatively, could HBG invite the "frothing masses" to have a discussion?

I think the fact you view them like that shows the lack of respect extended to our fans with genuine grievances. To the point where cochise has been physically threatened by one of them.
 
Tiger_Bond said:
BZN (and the likes of you) are the exact representation of the problem with this club, whereby, due to your misguided loyalty to a brand that is deceased as far as the NRL is considered. You would blindly support an ownership/administration with a debenture structure that is not held accountable for all the failures that have occurred under their watch.

I don’t know you nor do I care to know you but you strike me to be a person that is satisfied with a participation certificate for all.

I’m in it to win it, I don’t care much for participation recognition.
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That's your call dude. Enjoy the rest of the day and sleep well.
 
BZN said:
That seems like a pretty intelligent thing to do.
To be able to front the hostile herd and give Wests side of the story which may have the effect of calming the "frothing masses".
If the organisers of the rally didn't invite them, they're pretty slack and to me shows all the organisers are interested in is being a frothing mass.
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If only you held HBG to the same standards you do everyone else, we could start to have an objective and civil conversation.
 
BZN said:
Has any of y'all thought about the possibility that Burgess is actually smarter than any of us, in that Richo is no longer with us and all the others bar 1 apparently are back.
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I will admit it crossed my mind for the briefest of moments, and then the realisation that he looks like he's crawled out of a St Vinnies bin put my curiosity to bed.

He hardly screams success and the facts of the last decade or so seem to back that up.
 
BZN said:
That seems like a pretty intelligent thing to do.
To be able to front the hostile herd and give Wests side of the story which may have the effect of calming the "frothing masses".
If the organisers of the rally didn't invite them, they're pretty slack and to me shows all the organisers are interested in is being a frothing mass.
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ALL Wests Tigers supporters were invited, not personally but in the week an a bit leading up to it via the socials
The fact the majority shareholders didnt attend to allay WTs supporters fears....is telling.
Supporters came from all over the country yet HBG couldnt manage the 15 minute walk from WA to PP
 
BZN said:
Has any of y'all thought about the possibility that Burgess is actually smarter than any of us, in that Richo is no longer with us and all the others bar 1 apparently are back.
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Which one is getting paid $1.5m to do nothing again?

What will they end up having to pay Benji if he starts having a bit of success and they need to move him on?
 
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