HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

weststigers said:
I just quote the people involved. Including the CEO directly from his video. And the chairman who was in the room at every board meeting. Marina Go has a few things to say as well. You see the quotes and continuously say we have no information to fill the gaps.

Are all these people saying the same thing lying? What crusade are you on exactly?
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Hand picking what to argue.

I've not said there is no information. Just that we don't have all the information.

I don't think ANY of those people lied. That's the difference. The anti-HBG mob will have you believe that their reasoning was a lie.

I'm suggesting that they completely believe the reasoning they gave- maybe at the time, maybe still, I can't say.

I've given some theories on why I think they reversed their stance on some board members. But that's all it is. Theory.

Until more information comes out, if it does, I choose to run with the HBG board believe decisions were made that they felt were not conducted with their proper input.

The question should be asked- if HBG were completely unreasonable in their decision, why would O'Farrell agree to come back, without his running mate as CEO who stood down because he felt HBG were unable to be worked with? Was there a conflict? Is there more going on than being reported?

My 'crusade'? I'm not going to harpoon HBG on half a story. Is that a crusade? Or is it just independent thinking?

I don't have to agree with the group narrative. It doesn't make me a "HBG stooge", a Wests Magpies supporter or some part of an agenda. At no point have I championed HBG. At no point have I ever agreed that I'm an 'old Magpies fan'.

Assumptions have run this entire thread.
 
weststigers said:
So Barry came back....after PVL got involved. Don't YOU think that's strange?

The only thing we don't know is what threat PVL made, but whatever it was, it made HBG backflip.

The other board members refuse to return. Doesn't that feel odd?

But my question to you is. You think it's odd...so what is your summation? You've asked a lot of questions...thrown out plenty of doubts, but no opinion. Speak up.
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You assume a threat was made.

I've given my theories to posters about what I think MAY have gone down.

Fact is, my opinion & theory count for nothing. As much weight as anyone else's theory.

I think people are too quick to make judgement with maybe 40% of the 'facts' to work with.
 
hammertime said:
Why? Yes, one banner would be nice. But man, that's not a priority and it would only piss off HBG. If we want them to act in the best interest of WT, then just accept those inconsequential interests of theirs. A black and white Jersey is fine too and honestly would sell well.

We can't sweat the small stuff.
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no need to pamper Grand Ma 's wants though either, just because she chooses to play difficult
 
The Chad said:
Hand picking what to argue.

I've not said there is no information. Just that we don't have all the information.

I don't think ANY of those people lied. That's the difference. The anti-HBG mob will have you believe that their reasoning was a lie.

I'm suggesting that they completely believe the reasoning they gave- maybe at the time, maybe still, I can't say.

I've given some theories on why I think they reversed their stance on some board members. But that's all it is. Theory.

Until more information comes out, if it does, I choose to run with the HBG board believe decisions were made that they felt were not conducted with their proper input.

The question should be asked- if HBG were completely unreasonable in their decision, why would O'Farrell agree to come back, without his running mate as CEO who stood down because he felt HBG were unable to be worked with? Was there a conflict? Is there more going on than being reported?

My 'crusade'? I'm not going to harpoon HBG on half a story. Is that a crusade? Or is it just independent thinking?

I don't have to agree with the group narrative. It doesn't make me a "HBG stooge", a Wests Magpies supporter or some part of an agenda. At no point have I championed HBG. At no point have I ever agreed that I'm an 'old Magpies fan'.

Assumptions have run this entire thread.
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Mate the reason they gave was later removed from their website.

To remove and then try to reappoint the directors is just the latest evidence of HBG incompetence and dysfunction.

There is no reasoning that paints HBG in a positive light.
 
The Chad said:
You assume a threat was made.

I've given my theories to posters about what I think MAY have gone down.

Fact is, my opinion & theory count for nothing. As much weight as anyone else's theory.

I think people are too quick to make judgement with maybe 40% of the 'facts' to work with.
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Right. So they all just met in the room and shook hands because it was all a big misunderstanding.

Spare me.
 
The Chad said:
Hand picking what to argue.

I've not said there is no information. Just that we don't have all the information.

I don't think ANY of those people lied. That's the difference. The anti-HBG mob will have you believe that their reasoning was a lie.

I'm suggesting that they completely believe the reasoning they gave- maybe at the time, maybe still, I can't say.

I've given some theories on why I think they reversed their stance on some board members. But that's all it is. Theory.

Until more information comes out, if it does, I choose to run with the HBG board believe decisions were made that they felt were not conducted with their proper input.

The question should be asked- if HBG were completely unreasonable in their decision, why would O'Farrell agree to come back, without his running mate as CEO who stood down because he felt HBG were unable to be worked with? Was there a conflict? Is there more going on than being reported?

My 'crusade'? I'm not going to harpoon HBG on half a story. Is that a crusade? Or is it just independent thinking?

I don't have to agree with the group narrative. It doesn't make me a "HBG stooge", a Wests Magpies supporter or some part of an agenda. At no point have I championed HBG. At no point have I ever agreed that I'm an 'old Magpies fan'.

Assumptions have run this entire thread.
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So your whole "question" on the facts is we know 40% of the facts and Barry came back.

Barry didn't get invited back mate. PVL had to get involved for that to happen.

Just curious...what do you think went on in that meeting? You've rejected the "group think", so what's your version?
 
cochise said:
Mate the reason they gave was later removed from their website.

To remove and then try to reappoint the directors is just the latest evidence of HBG incompetence and dysfunction.

There is no reasoning that paints HBG in a positive light.
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Appreciate that.

Your point has remained solid & I can certainly see why you feel that way.

Why was it taken down? Don't know. Is it really 'evidence' or is it more supportive of a theory about incompetence though?

I agree that nothing really paints HBG in a good light. I'm not defending HBG per se. It would appear that at some level, they stuffed up.

If they had a point to it all, however, remains unclear.

To be clear with you mate- I would really like a Wests Tigers board that holds 1 Balmain, 1 Wests representative & a selection of appointed board members. I've not disagreed with that. And it would be the ideal way to move forward.

It's the demonising of HBG I'm less comfortable with.
 
weststigers said:
So your whole "question" on the facts is we know 40% of the facts and Barry came back.

Barry didn't get invited back mate. PVL had to get involved for that to happen.

Just curious...what do you think went on in that meeting? You've rejected the "group think", so what's your version?
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PVL got involved, and Barry O'Farrell was reappointed. Fact. Why? You're saying PVL 'made' them do it. Couldn't the argument be that PVL heard HBG's version & with certain other elements removed from the club, they found common ground to return the independent board members?

I don't know.

But, I'm not as willing to hang HBG because the mob have wound themselves up & want to storm the citadel with pitchforks waving.

"The Wests Tigers Board will next meet in February and will not be making any further commentary on the matter until that time."

This was part of the statement along with Barry O'Farrell's reinstatement.

So for anyone saying that no statement has been made- not quite true.
 
Merlot said:
its not the Magpies .all the angst is on hbg's shoulders - simples
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They are the magpies?!

Anyway, I hoping for sometime like Chris Lawrence or Ben Galea on the board, aswell with some Campbelltown representation, not the leagues club. Campbelltown needs to stop being an afterthought.
 
gallagher said:
They are the magpies?!

Anyway, I hoping for sometime like Chris Lawrence or Ben Galea on the board, aswell with some Campbelltown representation, not the leagues club. Campbelltown needs to stop being an afterthought.
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Chris Lawrence has all ways been business savvy. Fingers crossed MacArthur and Laundy do a deal.
NRL license if up for renewal shortly
 
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