Hip drops

[innsaneink]

A lot of them seem very innocuous and quite accidental, but we seem to be seeing a lot of these lately but only a few years back I don't think we saw any...maybe the odd one or two a month?

Are they coached/practice?... because if they are they're very good when many look so accidental

 

[KingRobbie]

I'd be interested to go back and see if there was many before, because if there were they just weren't cracked down on by refs/judiciary.

I agree with the crackdown on them, but a lot of them are definitely very quick and hard to pick up at real speed.

Tough one for referees to handle.

 

[Tucker]

Certainly seems to be a more prolific tackle these past couple of seasons.
To me that points to coaching.
It kind of reminds me of the rodeo event Bulldogging, whereby you lock-in on your target and then throw your own weight to the ground, forcing them to follow.

 

[Needaname]

I reckon a lot of them are accidental. I feel it’s a combination of players being taught not to tackle around the hips for fear of concussion but putting themselves in a position where they still end up with a low / leg tackle.
So they are starting up higher and dropping down to slow their momentum using their body weight in the tackle not to put pressure on their legs but just to get them to the ground.
I reckon if you look back you’ll see plenty of tackles where players use their body weight ie like the one the bulldogs player got sin binned for.

 

[Demps]

Very hot topic of the past few weeks.
Always some issue each season in rugby league they're trying to crack down on.

I think Hastings vs Carrigan, last year was the final straw.

It's an ugly technique.
Think it should be stamped out of the game...
Other ways to make a tackle.

 

[Buttface]

It amazes me how these players want to maim each other out there with these deliberate injury causing tackles?
There’s enough career and season ending injuries in the game without the storm coming up with new ways to rip someone’s arm off their pec.

 

[Masterton]

It's been amusing me to suddenly see players feel something brush against the back of their legs and stay down for a potential penalty.

 

[Telltails]

The players are milking it for penalties just like they did with the crusher tackles. For me last night's game was hard to watch and enjoy.
The nature of the game makes it almost impossible for players to not get injured, and the days of all risk and no responsibility are long gone. Duty of care is a responsibility of your employer, and risk assessments are part and parcel of that - the hip drop has been identified just like the crusher before it and no doubt there will be others.
The NRL are in the difficult position of knowing what's coming their way and they have to act.

 

[jirskyr]

The players are milking it for penalties just like they did with the crusher tackles. For me last night's game was hard to watch and enjoy.
The nature of the game makes it almost impossible for players to not get injured, and the days of all risk and no responsibility are long gone. Duty of care is a responsibility of your employer, and risk assessments are part and parcel of that - the hip drop has been identified just like the crusher before it and no doubt there will be others.
The NRL are in the difficult position of knowing what's coming their way and they have to act.

I think it will even out once players get used to the scrutiny and become more aware of their body position in failing tackles.

You have to credit the NRL that they've greatly reduced crusher and cannonball tackles with sustained penalties.

 

[Kaito]

The problem is when the ball runner
gets passed the tackler, don't think
that many of them are intentional TBH.
The bad ones are when the runner is
already wrapped up by 1/2 players
and the 3rd guy comes in to drop him
in order to reset the line, ban it 4 sure

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

A lot of them seem very innocuous and quite accidental, but we seem to be seeing a lot of these lately but only a few years back I don't think we saw any...maybe the odd one or two a month?

Are they coached/practice?... because if they are they're very good when many look so accidental

Is this a new type of tackling or has it been around for many years in endeavouring to stop a players momentum?

 

[DJG]

The players are too big for their bodies in which they can't keep up with the modern game which results in sloppy tackles and injuries tbh

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Is this a new type of tackling or has it been around for many years in endeavouring to stop a players momentum?

Just been in the tuiaki thread. Crueled his career

 

[Moh]

The problem is when the ball runner
gets passed the tackler

Very much this.

And when you're a smaller bloke, its much easier to use your body to drag them down.

It can lead to a dangerous outcome no doubt, but I don't believe there is any intent to harm in it.

The way some parts of the media go on about it make it sound like some cheap/thug act. It really isn't. IMO it's very much a natural (easy) way to bring down bigger bodies.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

A lot of them seem very innocuous and quite accidental, but we seem to be seeing a lot of these lately but only a few years back I don't think we saw any...maybe the odd one or two a month?

Are they coached/practice?... because if they are they're very good when many look so accidental

I actually think the refs have a heightened focus because of all the reporting that has come out of the NFL.

Hip drops have been around for ages, TNT career ended & has a lifetime of pain because of one and got nothing in the media.