Hooker situation

@jedi_tiger said in [Hooker situation](/post/1309778) said:
We won't keep both, if we extend Liddle we will lose Simpkin when his contract goes, both are good players but neither is cam Smith so I can't see Simpmin sitting behind Liddle for 3 years

Totally agreed with one point:
Were probably talking 2 hookers in the game we have now.

It is so fast paced now. I cannot see many hookers can:
Play with intensity
Play 80
Play 80 minutes with the manic intensity needed to win a game.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310559) said:
@rowdy12 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310555) said:
The Liddle is a poor defender myth has always perplexed me. Ive watched him from day 1 and everytime Ive seen him he looks like an excellent defender. I dont know if its because he is built very slight, or maybe it was purely Robbies groupies (who seemed to hate him for some reason) however I have never seen it.

On Sunday Taupau, Paseka and then Aloiai would all change their line to pick him out, I dont recall him missing a single tackle.

I can’t cope with all these, we’ve got great defenders posts. We totally suck in defense going on recent history. We are standing behind our posts way too many times in games. I don’t think it’s technique or that blokes can’t tackle, it’s been an attitude problem that hopefully we can finally turn around in 2021.

We literally went half a season without keeping a team under 26 points, an Australian record.


You can have a team full of great individual tacklers it means little as what you want is tacklers who work as a team.Unfortunately that is the area we fall down in far too often,hopefully 2021 is the reincarnation of our strong team defence
 
@jadtiger said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310617) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310559) said:
@rowdy12 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310555) said:
The Liddle is a poor defender myth has always perplexed me. Ive watched him from day 1 and everytime Ive seen him he looks like an excellent defender. I dont know if its because he is built very slight, or maybe it was purely Robbies groupies (who seemed to hate him for some reason) however I have never seen it.

On Sunday Taupau, Paseka and then Aloiai would all change their line to pick him out, I dont recall him missing a single tackle.

I can’t cope with all these, we’ve got great defenders posts. We totally suck in defense going on recent history. We are standing behind our posts way too many times in games. I don’t think it’s technique or that blokes can’t tackle, it’s been an attitude problem that hopefully we can finally turn around in 2021.

We literally went half a season without keeping a team under 26 points, an Australian record.


You can have a team full of great individual tacklers it means little as what you want is tacklers who work as a team.Unfortunately that is the area we fall down in far too often,hopefully 2021 is the reincarnation of our strong team defence


Exactly, defense is much more than making your individual tackles. It’s about synchronisation, anticipation, speed, energy and then making the effort to put your body in a place that you didn’t practice throughout the week because nobody else was going to be there in the moment. And 95% of people watching the game don’t even see the little efforts that make all the difference.
 
We have 2 defenders who can rattle the opposition that is put them on their arse regularly..Luke Brooks ( did it twice again in the trial) and lesser extent Garner..that say a lot...
 
@geo said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310727) said:
We have 2 defenders who can rattle the opposition that is put them on their arse regularly..Luke Brooks ( did it twice again in the trial) and lesser extent Garner..that say a lot...


Blore? Musgrove?
 
@bagnf05 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310559) said:
@rowdy12 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310555) said:
The Liddle is a poor defender myth has always perplexed me. Ive watched him from day 1 and everytime Ive seen him he looks like an excellent defender. I dont know if its because he is built very slight, or maybe it was purely Robbies groupies (who seemed to hate him for some reason) however I have never seen it.

On Sunday Taupau, Paseka and then Aloiai would all change their line to pick him out, I dont recall him missing a single tackle.

I can’t cope with all these, we’ve got great defenders posts. We totally suck in defense going on recent history. We are standing behind our posts way too many times in games. I don’t think it’s technique or that blokes can’t tackle, it’s been an attitude problem that hopefully we can finally turn around in 2021.

We literally went half a season without keeping a team under 26 points, an Australian record.

Parting with our pair of worst offenders, one in the middle and the other on the inner right edge should make a huge difference in the coming season for mine.

Edit; The nine is of little concern, whether it be Liddle, Simpkin or Mbye defending there.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310733) said:
@geo said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310727) said:
We have 2 defenders who can rattle the opposition that is put them on their arse regularly..Luke Brooks ( did it twice again in the trial) and lesser extent Garner..that say a lot...


Blore? Musgrove?

They can definitely do it. Even Joffa is capable
 
@tiger5150 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310733) said:
@geo said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310727) said:
We have 2 defenders who can rattle the opposition that is put them on their arse regularly..Luke Brooks ( did it twice again in the trial) and lesser extent Garner..that say a lot...


Blore? Musgrove?

REGULARLY...??
 
@geo said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310740) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310733) said:
@geo said in [Hooker situation](/post/1310727) said:
We have 2 defenders who can rattle the opposition that is put them on their arse regularly..Luke Brooks ( did it twice again in the trial) and lesser extent Garner..that say a lot...


Blore? Musgrove?

REGULARLY...??


These blokes havent been on the field regularly. Garner does it regularly?

Actually I noticed Garner looking to hit in defence in the trial, but I also saw him turn his back a few times. I really hope that he settles into a good defensive pattern of defending reliably and effectively and get the hit when its there and not all the time.
 
Not sexy but Here's how it will work

DL at No1
Liddle or Simpkin @ 9
Mbye @ 14. Can cover Hooker if the starting player needs a spell.
 
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