How cultural change brought Wests Tigers back from the brink

[TCL]

It's a good article and we do appear to be heading in the right direction. I think stating that JT is the reason for our success is a little rich though.

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

No worries,your negativity on a great day is noted….

TT I'm not being negative. I was outlining what I thought about success and this year. I have written that this year is a success and I believe it, but if we take off our one eyed tigers supporter hat and look at it, our success is that we are in a better position that last year. Can this be solely attributed to JT no (not that the article says that).

 

[TCL]

It's a good article and we do appear to be heading in the right direction. I think stating that JT is the reason for our success is a little rich though.

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

Huh. Did you even read the article?
We were dependent on results to avoid the spoon last year.
We haven't played our best football this year and knocking in the door today for finals football. Something that hasn't happened since 2011.

Yeah. JT has nothing to do with it.

Huh. Did you even read my comment? :slight_smile:

I gave credit to JT and have done in other posts, I just don't think he is "the" reason for our success.

 

[stevetiger]

It's a good article and we do appear to be heading in the right direction. I think stating that JT is the reason for our success is a little rich though.

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

So if we lose today JT should be sacked ? That is two failed seasons with a good squad.

My opinion is that everything matters. So the players definitely matter. You get a good squad and you are right in it. I think post that point you need a good coach and you need some luck.

I don't think that the culture has changed that much if at all. The posters that go on about culture always talk about defence and the training facilities and stuff like that. That's all the same.

What has changed is that Taylor is playing an up-tempo game. Taylor has also gotten rid of Robbie and Taupau. I'm not sure if losing those players are good decisions but I definitely think that playing an up-tempo game and attacking footy is critical.

If we make the finals I think Taylor has done a really good job but he has had to completely change his approach. I give him credit though for doing that.

Personally I just think that the whole club deserves credit if we make the finals including JT.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sad that there are people putting their differences aside for RF on such a big day, yet some ca't extend that same courtesy to JT.

 

[stevetiger]

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

Huh. Did you even read the article?
We were dependent on results to avoid the spoon last year.
We haven't played our best football this year and knocking in the door today for finals football. Something that hasn't happened since 2011.

Yeah. JT has nothing to do with it.

Huh. Did you even read my comment? :slight_smile:

I gave credit to JT and have done in other posts, I just don't think he is "the" reason for our success.

I don't think anyone is stating that JT had nothing to do with where we are at now. We are just stating it's not just JT that has gotten us here.

 

[stevetiger]

Sad that there are people putting their differences aside for RF on such a big day, yet some ca't extend that same courtesy to JT.

If this is directed towards me I think you should re-read what I've posted. I'd also suggest comparing what I've posted to what some posters have said towards Robbie.

 

[innsaneink]

It's a good article and we do appear to be heading in the right direction. I think stating that JT is the reason for our success is a little rich though.

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

You agree with Steve who clearly didn't read the article and commented something totally irrelevant…. Looks like you didn't read it either

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

Huh. Did you even read the article?
We were dependent on results to avoid the spoon last year.
We haven't played our best football this year and knocking in the door today for finals football. Something that hasn't happened since 2011.

Yeah. JT has nothing to do with it.

Huh. Did you even read my comment? :slight_smile:

I gave credit to JT and have done in other posts, I just don't think he is "the" reason for our success.

I don't think anyone is stating that JT had nothing to do with where we are at now. We are just stating it's not just JT that has gotten us here.

Where was it stated that JT was the only sole reason for our success?

 

[innsaneink]

Nowhere…. Steve just lobbed that grenade into the mix

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

All fine but just waits till Tedesco and Moses get constant SOO duties and exactly the same will happen again. The team will fall apart and then almost too late to make any real effort to reach finals.

 

[stevetiger]

Huh. Did you even read the article?
We were dependent on results to avoid the spoon last year.
We haven't played our best football this year and knocking in the door today for finals football. Something that hasn't happened since 2011.

Yeah. JT has nothing to do with it.

Huh. Did you even read my comment? :slight_smile:

I gave credit to JT and have done in other posts, I just don't think he is "the" reason for our success.

I don't think anyone is stating that JT had nothing to do with where we are at now. We are just stating it's not just JT that has gotten us here.

Where was it stated that JT was the only sole reason for our success?

There was a lot of mention of JT in that article. All I've said is that JT isn't the sole reason for our success.

There is nothing nasty in what I've said. There is no put down of JT.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Huh. Did you even read my comment? :slight_smile:

I gave credit to JT and have done in other posts, I just don't think he is "the" reason for our success.

I don't think anyone is stating that JT had nothing to do with where we are at now. We are just stating it's not just JT that has gotten us here.

Where was it stated that JT was the only sole reason for our success?

**There was a lot of mention of JT in that article.** All I've said is that JT isn't the sole reason for our success.

There is nothing nasty in what I've said. There is no put down of JT.

Naturally, he's the coach.

 

[TCL]

It's a good article and we do appear to be heading in the right direction. I think stating that JT is the reason for our success is a little rich though.

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

You agree with Steve who clearly didn't read the article and commented something totally irrelevant…. Looks like you didn't read it either

I read the article, if you read one of my previous replies I stated that the article didn't say that. I was commenting on the discussion between the two posters and in that discussion that was the statement. I'm new to forums so my bad for not linking one post to another (rookie mistake).

 

[GNR4LIFE]

By saying he's not the sole reason for our success, then it would be agreed that he wasn't the only reason we nearly ran last last season.

 

[innsaneink]

As far as I know JT has been head coach all year,the team is playing for a place in the top 8 today…JT is the reason we are there and has done a great job with the team he has...well done JT....

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

You agree with Steve who clearly didn't read the article and commented something totally irrelevant…. Looks like you didn't read it either

I read the article, if you read one of my previous replies I stated that the article didn't say that. I was commenting on the discussion between the two posters and in that discussion that was the statement. I'm new to forums so my bad for not linking one post to another (rookie mistake).

No probs.
Too confusing what you said here
Peace

 

[TCL]

By saying he's not the sole reason for our success, then it would be agreed that he wasn't the only reason we nearly ran last last season.

100%

 

[TCL]

I agree with ST, JT is not the reason for our success.

He is the coach and deserves credit but he is not the reason for our success.

And we should quanlify success, our year is a success given it is better than last year and considering the hurdles we've faced and where we found ourselves today! The hurdles were in part JT's doing.

The results in a pure football perspective the year is not a success we are outside the 8 and have to beat a top 4 team to make it (relying on other results - which thankfully went our way). We lose and warriors win we could end up in 10\. That's not success.

Just saying

You agree with Steve who clearly didn't read the article and commented something totally irrelevant…. Looks like you didn't read it either

I read the article, if you read one of my previous replies I stated that the article didn't say that. I was commenting on the discussion between the two posters and in that discussion that was the statement. I'm new to forums so my bad for not linking one post to another (rookie mistake).

No probs.
Too confusing what you said here
Peace

My reply to True Tiger earlier on in the thread.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

It has been mentioned earlier how Robbie advised JT to bring Moses into FG - was the capt also doing the coaches' job at that stage?

 

[Adamtiger1]

I think a few people are missing the entire point of this article. This article is not about JT or if we miss or make the 8 today, it's about the culture of the entire club, the WT. a culture shift is what was needed for this club to one day be successful again and what has held us back for so many years was we had different moving parts in this sleeping giant called the Wests Tigers but a lot of them unfortunately we're moving in different directions of one another. (Board, administration, coaching staff and players). They all had an opinion of what they thought success was but did not work together off the same hem sheet to make it happen.

Fast forward to today and from the outside in for the first time in our 16 year tenure, we have a United board, succesful and professional administration making smart business decisions and great internal ones, a coach that is working towards the business KPI's to be accountable for his job and the (short) and long term success of this cluband finally the players, they are all playing for one another and what seems quite important to people on here they are playing for the coach aswell.

Culture is not about one person (JT or RF as an example) culture starts at the top and breathes right through the entire club. For the first time in 16 years we have the whole club working together as a whole to make this club succesful again, weather we win lose or draw today we are all moving in the right direction together which is finally exciting me again about this club!!

In saying that, we better win today :wink: cmon boys !!

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

^^

….and we are close to $1m to the good on last year.