I begged for another NRL job: Taylor

[Nelson]

What a great team Parra had and Taylor had a great season

I think you missed the gist of MY post actually. I'm referring to when we gave him a head coaching job when no one else wanted him,
Always helps to read a post before dumping all over them and their post. :brick:

You basically said no one wanted him back then when he was playing…...Parramatta did.
And then you are inferring that nobody wanted him now.....Wests Tigers management do apparently, that is why he is our coach.
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Had to have a chuckle, rightly or wrongly, when Taylor said something along the lines of "if you keep asking people for a start somewhere you never know what opportunities may open up for you". He basically only just stopped short of looking down the camera and telling Farah to ring around to see what vacancies may present themself. Thought it was a strange thing to say. Wish he would keep his mouth shut from now on when it comes to discussing Farah in the media. The coach needs to be coming across as the professional with the calm head in situations like this IMO.

Thanks for telling me what I meant FTB. Pity you're wrong
I never mentioned his playing. And was referring to his coming here as a coach. And so did the words about other clubs missing a bullet.
No one else DId WANT him as a head coach when he came here , and will want him even less now , after seeing how smoothly he manages a team.
We won't have to fight off the other clubs if we are crazy enough to resign the fool.

Next time il use smaller words so you are not confused

He's not telling you what you meant he's telling you what you said. Maybe you should use smaller words so as to avoid confusing yourself.

 

[Sco77y]

This article is just a result of the media prying out any information they can grab. All I got from it - Taylor understands how Robbie is feeling because he's been there before. I think any coach would say the same thing about a player in a similar situation. Didn't think it was that big a deal..

 

[stevetiger]

This article is just a result of the media prying out any information they can grab. All I got from it - Taylor understands how Robbie is feeling because he's been there before. I think any coach would say the same thing about a player in a similar situation. Didn't think it was that big a deal..

I agree with you but when Robbie does the same thing he gets crucified. There was a comment that Tedesco had told Robbie to move on as well recently. If Robbie said that he would have gotten crucified.

Everything surrounding Robbie is now out of perspective.

 

[cktiger]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

 

[gallagher]

For a team that's split in two they seem to be playing well together.

 

[NT_Tiger]

It is good to have a coach with such tenacity, willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people could learn a thing or two from Taylor; instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

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I read it as more of an encouragement article in regards to Robbie being no different to some other NRL players that have to play in reserve grade,brings some back to earth and makes them work harder instead of taking things for granted,at least it shows how much JT wanted to play NRL by writing letters to coaches and was given an opportunity…the other thing I will say is JT was a very good footballer but didn't get to his 200 milestone, however Robbie still has a chance to make 250...at least Taylor shoulders the blame for his decisions,as tough as they seem...

I don't see these as mutually exclusive and I agree with both posts.

 

[TrueTiger]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

ck,your only putting your opinion forward on how YOU perceive the situation as being,it appears as you say from a RF loyalist point of view,others see it as a time to move on RF situation….many have different views,as for the weasel calling,I thought you may be better than that....

 

[NT_Tiger]

This article is just a result of the media prying out any information they can grab. All I got from it - Taylor understands how Robbie is feeling because he's been there before. I think any coach would say the same thing about a player in a similar situation. Didn't think it was that big a deal..

I agree with you but when Robbie does the same thing he gets crucified. There was a comment that Tedesco had told Robbie to move on as well recently. If Robbie said that he would have gotten crucified.

Everything surrounding Robbie is now out of perspective.

Interesting comment. I have yet to see an article quoting RF saying I understand why JT made his decision. I will certainly not crucify him if he comes out and says that. But I seriously doubt I'll see any media like that because (as per posts in other threads) I don't think he is willing to even consider the other point of view. It doesn't suit his agenda. He knows that he will be paid no matter what.
Think back to Benji's last days. It was all poor bugger me, I love WT, I'll never play against them etc. etc. etc. Then after he'd been gone for a while and after some serious introspection he was saying he had been complacent etc.
Well RF has the opportunity right now to consider the other perspective and for that serious introspection! Anyone here willing to bet that he'll do it?

 

[Tim Sheens]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

Please let us know what just a few of those plenty of options are CK?

I am truly interested in what others on the other side of the fence see that would allow me to have any sympathy for a player that I still think was unfairly overlooked and up there with the best for a few seasons.

 

[cktiger]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

ck,your **only putting your opinion forward on how YOU perceive the situation as being**,it appears as you say from a RF loyalist point of view,others see it as a time to move on RF situation….many have different views,**as for the weasel calling,I thought you may be better than that...**.

Never said it is anything but my opinion TT.
In regards to the weasel comment you should note that I said he is displaying 'the qualities of a true weasel'
If you were too look up the personality traits of a weasel I'm sure you'll see my reasoning.
To make it clear I am not a RF loyalist - I just don't believe Taylor is good for this club or has given any reason to believe his decisions are even close to being correct.
I refuse to follow him blindly simply because he is the 'current' coach.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I think you missed the gist of MY post actually. I'm referring to when we gave him a head coaching job when no one else wanted him,
Always helps to read a post before dumping all over them and their post. :brick:

You basically said no one wanted him back then when he was playing…...Parramatta did.
And then you are inferring that nobody wanted him now.....Wests Tigers management do apparently, that is why he is our coach.
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Had to have a chuckle, rightly or wrongly, when Taylor said something along the lines of "if you keep asking people for a start somewhere you never know what opportunities may open up for you". He basically only just stopped short of looking down the camera and telling Farah to ring around to see what vacancies may present themself. Thought it was a strange thing to say. Wish he would keep his mouth shut from now on when it comes to discussing Farah in the media. The coach needs to be coming across as the professional with the calm head in situations like this IMO.

Thanks for telling me what I meant FTB. Pity you're wrong
I never mentioned his playing. And was referring to his coming here as a coach. And so did the words about other clubs missing a bullet.
No one else DId WANT him as a head coach when he came here , and will want him even less now , after seeing how smoothly he manages a team.
We won't have to fight off the other clubs if we are crazy enough to resign the fool.

Next time il use smaller words so you are not confused

Which others didn't want him? For them to not want him I guess he applied elsewhere and was knocked back. I dont recalll who they were.
I know Bennett went to the Broncos but don't think he had competition there. Mary at the dragons from assistant to head coach, McFadden the same, Stone given another crack at the knights because they wanted a local after Bennett, Henry to Titans - did JT apply there? And Parra…yep, he missed that gig, but only just due to the Foran connection.

All the teams, Except us,
If you can give me the names of the teams that said they were chasing him as their Coach that'd be good.
If a club wants someone badly enough.
They don't mind shunting their current coach to bring a replacement in
Nothing to do with applying, most clubs know who they're after before they punt the one they've got.
We are the Last Chance Saloon for this one. Bye I'm going to watch some real football.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

Please let us know what just a few of those plenty of options are CK?

I am truly interested in what others on the other side of the fence see that would allow me to have any sympathy for a player that I still think was unfairly overlooked and up there with the best for a few seasons.

Yep, interested to know what all of the options were in regards to moving Farah on. As much as it has played out terribly for our club and Farah they wanted him gone…he quite within his rights wanted to stay and dig his heels in......this was in reality the only way it was going to turn out. Coach/club vs player usually only ends up with one conclusion.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

What a great team Parra had and Taylor had a great season

I think you missed the gist of MY post actually. I'm referring to when we gave him a head coaching job when no one else wanted him,
Always helps to read a post before dumping all over them and their post. :brick:

You basically said no one wanted him back then when he was playing…...Parramatta did.
And then you are inferring that nobody wanted him now.....Wests Tigers management do apparently, that is why he is our coach.
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Had to have a chuckle, rightly or wrongly, when Taylor said something along the lines of "if you keep asking people for a start somewhere you never know what opportunities may open up for you". He basically only just stopped short of looking down the camera and telling Farah to ring around to see what vacancies may present themself. Thought it was a strange thing to say. Wish he would keep his mouth shut from now on when it comes to discussing Farah in the media. The coach needs to be coming across as the professional with the calm head in situations like this IMO.

Thanks for telling me what I meant FTB. Pity you're wrong
I never mentioned his playing. And was referring to his coming here as a coach. And so did the words about other clubs missing a bullet.
No one else DId WANT him as a head coach when he came here , and will want him even less now , after seeing how smoothly he manages a team.
We won't have to fight off the other clubs if we are crazy enough to resign the fool.

Next time il use smaller words so you are not confused

goldcoast tiger, you either did not read the article completely or didn’t comprehend it, either way you have put your foot into your mouth not once, but over and over again.

It was pointed out to you that the article had nothing to do with his coaching career but his playing days, but instead of admitting you erred you continue to infer that you were correct and then proceed to tell other’s they didn’t read your post correctly and they are wrong, you still continue to do this, even though your comments since and your whole argument generally is irrelevant to the article and hence this thread.

Taylor was assistant coach at the Roosters and correct me if I am wrong but to my knowledge he wasn’t seeking any other head coaching roles at that time therefore your claim that no one else wanted him would appear to be an opinion of yours and not based on anything factual and can be seen as solely an attempt to extract that foot from your mouth….it’s not working.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I think you missed the gist of MY post actually. I'm referring to when we gave him a head coaching job when no one else wanted him,
Always helps to read a post before dumping all over them and their post. :brick:

You basically said no one wanted him back then when he was playing…...Parramatta did.
And then you are inferring that nobody wanted him now.....Wests Tigers management do apparently, that is why he is our coach.
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Had to have a chuckle, rightly or wrongly, when Taylor said something along the lines of "if you keep asking people for a start somewhere you never know what opportunities may open up for you". He basically only just stopped short of looking down the camera and telling Farah to ring around to see what vacancies may present themself. Thought it was a strange thing to say. Wish he would keep his mouth shut from now on when it comes to discussing Farah in the media. The coach needs to be coming across as the professional with the calm head in situations like this IMO.

Thanks for telling me what I meant FTB. Pity you're wrong
I never mentioned his playing. And was referring to his coming here as a coach. And so did the words about other clubs missing a bullet.
No one else DId WANT him as a head coach when he came here , and will want him even less now , after seeing how smoothly he manages a team.
We won't have to fight off the other clubs if we are crazy enough to resign the fool.

Next time il use smaller words so you are not confused

goldcoast tiger, you either did not read the article completely or didn’t comprehend it, either way you have put your foot into your mouth not once, but over and over again.

It was pointed out to you that the article had nothing to do with his coaching career but his playing days, but instead of admitting you erred you continue to infer that you were correct and then proceed to tell other’s they didn’t read your post correctly and they are wrong, you still continue to do this, even though your comments since and your whole argument generally is irrelevant to the article and hence this thread.

Taylor was assistant coach at the Roosters and correct me if I am wrong but to my knowledge he wasn’t seeking any other head coaching roles at that time therefore your claim that no one else wanted him would appear to be an opinion of yours and not based on anything factual and can be seen as solely an attempt to extract that foot from your mouth….it’s not working.

I also pointed out that I was talking about .coaching and Not playing , over and over
And was anyone falling over them selves to entice him to their clubs I think Not
Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the first post , but it wasn't rocket science
I didn't think I had to keep to three letter words.
But you can put your bees back in your bonnet, as I've explained it clearly enough,
the end of this whole overworked post is that at least we won't have to worry about other clubs having to poach him . As I said Last Chance Saloon for our "coach"
Have a cup of tea. You'll all feel better

 

[Needaname]

Question;
Does the club give the media a transcript of questions to be asked prior to the press conference.
I watched the interview and JT was reminded that he went through the same thing by a journalist.
What would you prefer he'd say, "oh that's a different story we are not talking about back then".
Could imagine the backlash from that, all the naysayers saying 'his completely hypocritical and you'd think he'd have sympathy because his been through it before.'
I ask again, did JT say to the journalist "oh make sure you remind me about my past, so we can talk about that and I can be misquoted by the media so you guys can write an article about me and Robbie, again"…..

 

[tigerman80]

Question;
Does the club give the media a transcript of questions to be asked prior to the press conference.
I watched the interview and JT was reminded that he went through the same thing by a journalist.
What would you prefer he'd say, "oh that's a different story we are not talking about back then".
Could imagine the backlash from that, all the naysayers saying 'his completely hypocritical and you'd think he'd have sympathy because his been through it before.'
I ask again, did JT say to the journalist "oh make sure you remind me about my past, so we can talk about that and I can be misquoted by the media so you guys can write an article about me and Robbie, again"…..

He can say next question, im here to talk about the game and Farah is not in the team. Just like Farah needs to learn to shut his mouth, so should Taylor. When Taylor was asked about Farahs comments last week, he said we will deal with it internally. Thats how he should handle it, pass on all Farah so we dont spend another with a media circus. It cant be bad for one and ok for the other.

 

[innsaneink]

A hahaha you'd love him to avoid questions.
Hed be hammered from pillar to post on here e

 

[tigerman80]

A hahaha you'd love him to avoid questions.
Hed be hammered from pillar to post on here e

The club needs to get them both in and say Farah you shut up, breach notice for last week. Do it again and you get a second one. Taylor we dont want you answering any Farah questions if Farah is not in first grade. Hes explained why fArah is not playing, thats it. Dont need to hear anything else about it, Taylor should know better. As long as he keeps talking they will be asking. Very simple , guys im here to talk about the game on the weekend, the 17 thats playing. Its not like anythiny he is going to say is going to change anyonew opinion of the situation.

 

[cktiger]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

Please let us know what just a few of those plenty of options are CK?

I am truly interested in what others on the other side of the fence see that would allow me to have any sympathy for a player that I still think was unfairly overlooked and up there with the best for a few seasons.

Sorry, formerguest, didn't see your post but I'll reply now.
The obvious option was to give Farah an exit deserving of his status in the club.
He asked Taylor if he could play out 2016 to have his last Origin tilt and to try to get another title for the Tigers.
He would then opt out of his last year and play in Superleague - saving the club heaps of money.
Unbeknown to him Taylor thought he had an ace hiding up his sleeve in Ballin so he knocked it on the head and we had the famous 'stay and you'll be playing in reserves'.
You can imagine how Farah must have felt when, soon after, we signed Ballin - when we already had Halatau as a backup hooker and were grooming Cherrington.
Taylor now had to do what he could to force Farah out.
He has his reasons to not want him in the team (which I believe are idiotic) however ,Instead of offering an olive branch from the club the sore has been left to fester.
We are at the back end of the year now - if he REALLY thought Farah was no good for the team he should have dumped him from the start.
Instead Taylor would have been sweating on Ballin getting fit so he could dump Farah … but then his plan went awry when Ballin injured himself again .
Now we have the 'cohesion' farce.
The club could easily have sat Farah down and been forthright.
Taylor wants you gone but we owe you nearly $2 million - lets work something out.
If you don't want to play for another NRL team we'll subsidise your contract in Super League and offer you a GUARANTEED position within the club, retire and we'll keep you in house at the club ... anything!
Yet we still get Taylor saying every second day 'Robbie Farah is still part of this club blah blah blah...'
Can anybody who supports Taylor in this mess honestly say they believe a word of this?
The only way Farah will get another go is if we have a terrible run of injuries in the forwards or someone higher up than Taylor tells him to pull his head in.
Sorry ... turned into a rant lol

 

[tigerman80]

It is good to have a coach **with such tenacity,** willing to get on with things when things aren't going his way. He has shown this since he has been at the Tigers and all through his career. Never the flashiest player or coach, but not the worst either and always willing to back himself. Plenty of people **could learn a thing or two from Taylor;** instead of whinging because life is unfair, getting on and doing something productive… Hope he is at the Tigers for plenty more years.

What you see as tenacity I see as inflexibility and pig headedness.
He's got it in for Farah and that's all its about.
The only person who lacks cohesion with Robbie Farah is Jason Taylor.
In saying that he is the coach .
There were plenty of options to move Farah on without causing this disaster - which has split the team, supporters and sponsors.
Taylor was incapable of implementing any of them.
The only tenacity you could say Taylor has shown in this episode is how to find an excuse to punt Farah (poor as it is) and never sway from it.
Must have been festering in his head for nearly a year - he is now showing all the exceptional qualities of a true weasel.

Please let us know what just a few of those plenty of options are CK?

I am truly interested in what others on the other side of the fence see that would allow me to have any sympathy for a player that I still think was unfairly overlooked and up there with the best for a few seasons.

Sorry, formerguest, didn't see your post but I'll reply now.
The obvious option was to give Farah an exit deserving of his status in the club.
He asked Taylor if he could play out 2016 to have his last Origin tilt and to try to get another title for the Tigers.
He would then opt out of his last year and play in Superleague - saving the club heaps of money.
Unbeknown to him Taylor thought he had an ace hiding up his sleeve in Ballin so he knocked it on the head and we had the famous 'stay and you'll be playing in reserves'.
You can imagine how Farah must have felt when, soon after, we signed Ballin - when we already had Halatau as a backup hooker and were grooming Cherrington.
Taylor now had to do what he could to force Farah out.
He has his reasons to not want him in the team (which I believe are idiotic) however ,Instead of offering an olive branch from the club the sore has been left to fester.
We are at the back end of the year now - if he REALLY thought Farah was no good for the team he should have dumped him from the start.
Instead Taylor would have been sweating on Ballin getting fit so he could dump Farah … but then his plan went awry when Ballin injured himself again .
Now we have the 'cohesion' farce.
The club could easily have sat Farah down and been forthright.
Taylor wants you gone but we owe you nearly $2 million - lets work something out.
If you don't want to play for another NRL team we'll subsidise your contract in Super League and offer you a GUARANTEED position within the club, retire and we'll keep you in house at the club ... anything!
Yet we still get Taylor saying every second day 'Robbie Farah is still part of this club blah blah blah...'
Can anybody who supports Taylor in this mess honestly say they believe a word of this?
The only way Farah will get another go is if we have a terrible run of injuries in the forwards or someone higher up than Taylor tells him to pull his head in.
Sorry ... turned into a rant lol

If Farah offered to leave in 2017 as long as he played and was farewelled in 2016 and we as a club didnt accept it then the whole lot of them from coach to CEO should be sacked. We are now in the position of not wanting him and still having him on our books for next year , what a disgrace.