I Dont Get It....

Was in the US for my honeymoon no more than two months ago. Every airport was very no nonsense with their approach to security. None of them smile, no small talk and they all look at you like you are there to start trouble.

They've learnt their lesson.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
How do 19 terrorists defeat a billion dollar air defense system with just box cutters and a man living in a cave in Afghanistan

Easy, complacency and arrogance. Try doing it now.
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As complacent as Larry Silverstein?

I've had plenty of friendly chats with staff at customs and ground staff at LAX, JFK etc. I hold 2 passports so I travel over there a lot.
 
@Chris said:
How do commercial airlines just disappear with all the technology we have today?
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there are lots of ways.

Hopefully this year's events will see blackboxes fitted with some kind of auto-firing EPERB
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
How do 19 terrorists defeat a billion dollar air defense system with just box cutters and a man living in a cave in Afghanistan
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Because at the time the mindset was the U.S. we're looking externally for attacks, not internally. Security on planes and at airports was very slack. It's not any more.

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Fair enough GNR. I just don't subscribe to every major event being a conspiracy theory.

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@Cultured Bogan said:
Fair enough GNR. I just don't subscribe to every major event being a conspiracy theory.

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Fair enough. I can understand why people wouldn't put much stock into something like 9/11\. I don't think the US were behind it like conspiracy theorists do, but i think its reasonable with all the intelligence they have, that this didn't exactly come out of nowhere for the US Government. Though i can understand why people might not think that way, that's fair enough. On the topic of conspiracies though, there are some that do have merit, like the JFK assassination for example. Anyone who thinks Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone nut is pretty naive.
 
Thing is there tends to be inconsistencies with major events (there always is if you look hard enough,) and that gives conspiracy nuts enough to extrapolate theories from.

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I really try to believe what our governments tell us, less so the conservatives, but gee it is hard to do so on some matters. Inconsistencies are one thing, but in the case of 9/11 there were many things that were the other way as well, too consistent, and/or perfect.
 
@formerguest said:
I really try to believe what our governments tell us, less so the conservatives, but gee it is hard to do so on some matters. Inconsistencies are one thing, but in the case of 9/11 there were many things that were the other way as well, too consistent, and/or perfect.
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Were all in the Matrix mate !

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@hiesenberg said:
How does a 2 year old accidentally kill his mother while shopping . They're effed up

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She must have had the Safety off is my guess?
They're a nation of gun crazy rednecks IMO … But hey it's in their constitution !
Imagine trying to invade America from the South !

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@formerguest said:
I really try to believe what our governments tell us, less so the conservatives, but gee it is hard to do so on some matters. Inconsistencies are one thing, but in the case of 9/11 there were many things that were the other way as well, too consistent, and/or perfect.
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Thats what most conspiracies boil down to, people just don't "feel right".

People tend to read one side of the argument and believe there is no explanation for certain things, but when they are shown evidence they are wrong the position changes slightly and they continue on. Once they are set on something being as conspiracy there is nothing in the universe that can convince them otherwise.
 
@LaT said:
@formerguest said:
I really try to believe what our governments tell us, less so the conservatives, but gee it is hard to do so on some matters. Inconsistencies are one thing, but in the case of 9/11 there were many things that were the other way as well, too consistent, and/or perfect.

Thats what most conspiracies boil down to, people just don't "feel right".

People tend to read one side of the argument and believe there is no explanation for certain things, but when they are shown evidence they are wrong the position changes slightly and they continue on. Once they are set on something being as conspiracy there is nothing in the universe that can convince them otherwise.
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Generally speaking when your Government (i.e. American) has had a history of misleading it's people and compromising the civil liberties of people around the world it's only natural people are suspicious. e.g. 1952 Iranian coup, Tonkin incident, 9/11 etc.

Interesting I was speaking with a good friend's dad who has worked for the US military for many years and been stationed in Okinawa, Heidelberg, Seoul and a few other bases and the stories he told me about the amount of intelligence they have (even easier these days with social media like facebook etc).

Anyway, sad news regarding Air Asia flight…
 
@tsjonathan said:
@LaT said:
@formerguest said:
I really try to believe what our governments tell us, less so the conservatives, but gee it is hard to do so on some matters. Inconsistencies are one thing, but in the case of 9/11 there were many things that were the other way as well, too consistent, and/or perfect.

Thats what most conspiracies boil down to, people just don't "feel right".

People tend to read one side of the argument and believe there is no explanation for certain things, but when they are shown evidence they are wrong the position changes slightly and they continue on. Once they are set on something being as conspiracy there is nothing in the universe that can convince them otherwise.

Generally speaking when your Government (i.e. American) has had a history of misleading it's people and compromising the civil liberties of people around the world it's only natural people are suspicious. e.g. 1952 Iranian coup, Tonkin incident, 9/11 etc.

Interesting I was speaking with a good friend's dad who has worked for the US military for many years and been stationed in Okinawa, Heidelberg, Seoul and a few other bases and the stories he told me about the amount of intelligence they have (even easier these days with social media like facebook etc).

Anyway, sad news regarding Air Asia flight…
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Its a massive leap from having a healthy distrust (which everyone should) of Government to claiming a 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll/magic bullet or believing a controlled demolition took down the towers.

Massive…massive leap.
 
The grassy knoll is just common sense

A gunman is sitting in the 6th floor window of the depository, the motorcade is coming down Houston Street and the gunman has a clear shot of a target right in front of him, coming towards him. He however chooses not to take the clear head shot there, yet decides to wait until the target turns the corner and is moving away from him, not to mention now the gunman has to shoot through a tree. Where's the logic there?

Some conspiracies i can understand people turning their nose up at, JFK on the other hand with witness accounts, witness deaths, all the different motives different people had to want him out of power, there's no other way that thing went down.
 
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