I was getting stale at the Tigers: Sironen

@goldcoast tiger said:
@hammertime said:
@Geo. said:
I see your Sironen and raise you an Idris

https://twitter.com/emmalawrence90/status/829586991457005569

Video here http://www.news.com.au/video/id-lsbHlqOTE67xRemNgGlIJta_SIu3uM6i/Jamal-Idris-loving-his-footy-again-

Some really great wraps on the club and the coach.

Not sure why we bother to even read the drivel that is printed before the season about players loving the Coach/club/culture /team canteen .whatever.
They're not about to say that they wish that some other club would have been prepared to throw some money at them ( at least, not if they want to play first grade)
Just more BS.

Who is the Minister for propaganda at WTs? I wish some signings could announced instead of these silly little stories about love ins between the coach and players.
 
All puff pieces. Sirro was a promising young junior who simply didn't work out. Jamal is returning to the game after spending nearly two years smoking cones in Kathmandu and getting kidnapped by people a third of his size. The fans will judge by your efforts on the pitch.

We'll see how Sirro goes at a struggling Manly outfit. They'll be leaning on him to perform and we'll see whether he thrives or crumbles.
 
He went stale cause of his attitude.

The laziness and desire he showed on the field was very poor , trained his arse off yeah right oh!!!
Only there cause of his Surname and how he made City First says more about that Rep fixture….What a joke :unamused:
 
Comes from great gene pool,has the size and skills but kept waiting for him to be interested enough on the field to use them, reminds me of a little half back i am still waiting to see any sort of consistency
 
@hugh1954 said:
Comes from great gene pool,has the size and skills but kept waiting for him to be interested enough on the field to use them, reminds me of a little half back i am still waiting to see any sort of consistency

Hugh Fill in the blanks B _ _ o_ s
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
All puff pieces. Sirro was a promising young junior who simply didn't work out. Jamal is returning to the game after spending nearly two years smoking cones in Kathmandu and getting kidnapped by people a third of his size. The fans will judge by your efforts on the pitch.

We'll see how Sirro goes at a struggling Manly outfit. They'll be leaning on him to perform and we'll see whether he thrives or crumbles.

Manly will be in all sorts if they are looking for a 23 yr old player who played the majority of 2016 in reserve grade to turn there preformance around this season. A few years ago they had a very strong back row and were going great. Teams like Manly and the Tigers with a weak backrow will find it a struggle to make the finals.
 
Probably the best thing for him.

Throughout his football life, every next step was just another step, jnr development squads…jnr reps...NYC...NRL.
His old man for years WAS Balmain Jnrs...every step was expected and almost automatic, Im not saying he didnt deserve the progression, he is a capable NRL player at his best, so hes not there on name alone...but the move to manly shows hes wanted, and a return on that will be expected...not just a natural progression hes had at Balmain JRL/WTs
 
i did feel that we never utilised sirro properly, however at the end of the day he didnt put in in the role we had him playing so it was best for both parties for him to leave. he could kick on and reach his full potential at manly however i have my doubts. my gut feel is he'll be a guy thats played for 5 different clubs (and probably ESL) by the time he's 30.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
All puff pieces. Sirro was a promising young junior who simply didn't work out. Jamal is returning to the game after spending nearly two years smoking cones in Kathmandu and getting kidnapped by people a third of his size. The fans will judge by your efforts on the pitch.

We'll see how Sirro goes at a struggling Manly outfit. They'll be leaning on him to perform and we'll see whether he thrives or crumbles.

Haha haha I cracked up at the kidnapping reference! Maybe his new nickname could be Gulliver.
Manly are in massive strife if they are gonna be relying on Sirro to carry the load, WT were hoping for years that he would pull his weight and he never obliged. Can't see a thing changing in that regard, he seems like the sort of player content to just coast along when the going gets tough.
Wouldn't surprise in the slightest to see him finished in the NRL by 2 or 3 years time.
 
@Basil Tiger said:
@happy tiger said:
Sirro's got no excuses now

Its make or break for him at this time of his career

Yep,he needs an exceptional season,if the drums prove correct and Hasler returns to Manly in 2018 or 19 i can't see Des having him in the Pack.

Why not - he persisted with Tony Williams.
 
@Harvey said:
"He just wants me to play, use my best qualities. I still have to do all that tough stuff out the back of the field like back-rowers do these days,"

If he did the tough stuff expected of 2nd rowers, he would have likely played a lot more first grade last year.

"If I get to play a bit creative like I can, so be it."
Like when he gets the ball in limited space and decides it is better to look for the miracle offload than take heavy contact.

He made plenty of comments in that article which typify the type of player he is, ie. Lazy. If he ends up being an 80 minute workhorse at Manly, good luck to him but he's got a long way to go to show that.
 
Problem with Sirro is that he sees himself as a ball playing no 6.Bryce Cartwright type.Why not,as he won a NYC in that position.
Unfortunately as a back… he plays like a slow 110 kg forward,with absolutely zero evidence of any extraordinary ball skills whatsoever.
And as a forward ,he plays like a 85kg back,rarely dominant,and gets smashed by all and sundry
MW mite be a good opportunity to determine what he really is without the surname..and just he may be disappointed
Think Manly without Stewart, Lyon and Matai, a totally unproven coach ,plus buying mostly reject players full of "hope" and nothing else,are gonna be the major disappointment in 2017
 
@willow said:
@Harvey said:
"He just wants me to play, use my best qualities. I still have to do all that tough stuff out the back of the field like back-rowers do these days,"

If he did the tough stuff expected of 2nd rowers, he would have likely played a lot more first grade last year.

"If I get to play a bit creative like I can, so be it."
Like when he gets the ball in limited space and decides it is better to look for the miracle offload than take heavy contact.

He made plenty of comments in that article which typify the type of player he is, ie. Lazy. If he ends up being an 80 minute workhorse at Manly, good luck to him but he's got a long way to go to show that.

That is about it too Willow

Bread goes stale , not footballers

Lazy footballers go missing , not stale
 
THE Sea Eagles have undergone yet another massive roster overhaul, the second in two seasons. There are definite question marks over how the team will go but one thing’s for sure, SuperCoach treasure can be found somewhere amongst all the movement.

Losing one of Manly’s favourite sons in Jamie Buhrer frees up the edge backrow position he had a mortgage on (that is, when not injured). This certainly frees up a starting spot and plenty of minutes for someone to step up and take control. Surely whoever jags that starting spot would be SuperCoach treasure if cheap, right?

Wrong, that treasure can easily be trash (or trap, if you may) and for that reason I’m going to cut right to the chase.

Curtis Sironen. Otherwise known as Trappy McTrapface. Don’t do it to yourself and your SuperCoach team.

I’ve seen some people mention his name as an option since his positive showing at the Auckland Nines, along with valid-sounding arguments. I’ve looked at them in closer detail below.

“He should be one of the starting backrowers for the Sea Eagles, he’ll have good job security and is set to play lots of minutes,” you say.

NO. He had good job security at the Tigers too, yet he got dropped to reserve grade last year. He also has a mediocre injury history, having never played more than 19 games in a season. He has played 80 minutes for plenty of games in the past, yet still hasn’t shown anything as a SuperCoach option.
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“He’s so cheap at $228,100, priced at a 34 average, and he’s also a dual position player that can swap around between 2RF and 5/8 – just like Carty!” you exclaim.

NO. He’s cheap for a reason, having not scored above a 40 average ever, especially in the last four years. I’ll concede the DPP point but that’s hardly a reason to buy a player.

“But he looked so good at the Auckland Nines, he has some ball play in him and will pick up some attacking stats” you say.

NO. Anyone remember when Agnatius Paasi was the pick of the Nines players last year? Didn’t go so well when there’s 13 players on the park. Picking an edge forward in the hope of attacking stats, when he hasn’t demonstrated that ability in the past, is not a good idea.

“On top of that, he had two injury-affected scores of six and six, out of his eight games. His adjusted average is 43.5! Easy money!”

YES, he had those injury-affected scores which meant he only averaged 34, but that’s still only five or six points per game less than his previous seasons. Is he underpriced to the extent that he’ll be worth a trade out? Probably not.

Please, don’t get trapped.
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/supercoach/nrl-supercoach-its-a-trap-series-manly-sea-eagles/news-story/76c52b6cc9373fa2b9bd367e25a0079e
 
Made sure he took up his option to lock in a contract while stale. I am not sure he got stale, but rather he got found out. Nowhere near as good as the hype.
 

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