If Potter's sacked, only one man can get us back on track

[westy81]

I know one coach who would be perfect for the tigers coach if potter gets the sack, but he isn't on the market

Ivan cleary

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[sheer64]

Smith is a cancer and should be kept well away.

Hows he a cancer exactly?

The only player I have ever heard say good things about him is Hindmarsh. It has been reported in the media throughout the years he fails to gain the support of the players. Maybe the media reports are incorrect but just seems strange for such an experienced and successful coach that he has very few admirers, and no other clubs are chasing him.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Smith has always been in football for his own glory. But man, if I hear this garbage about a coach whose lost the support of the playing group, or the players won't play for the coach I think I'm gonna vomit. Players are there to play for the club and the fans as well as each other. The coach is in control - not them.

 

[MightyMaggy]

At least Smith would have a head start as he has done a thorough review of the joint and **_he would know what's needed before he joins_**… Smith can't be worse that what's available

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That assumes Brian Smith knew what he was doing and how to fix the problems. May I suggest you check what happened to the Clubs after his time at his previous Clubs. My information from one of these Clubs is that **_he caused the turmoil_** and left the mess to go elsewhere.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

For mine Potter and the entire coaching/S&C team should be released after this year.

Bring in Griffin ex Broncos coach and let HIM select his support team.

I think this is the answer. Griffin is a good coach and has the kind of no crap attributes we need in our next coach. The only coaches I would want more are Bellamy and Cleary and we can't get them.

Hire Griffin and let him choose his coaching staff.

 

[NT_Tiger]

I think it is ridiculous even debating this. Potter has done enough to gain an extension when all outside factors are considered.
Surely anyone who is reading other current posts is becoming aware of where the problems at the club really sit, and It aint Potter. It is apparent to me that once the board s fixed (if it can be) and the business is allowed to run without constant interference, there should be a stable environment in which Potter can do his job.
Add to that, the dawning awareness that the quality of our strength and conditioning staff is probably contributing to the amount of time top players are spending on the bench, (therefore affecting the team's and Potter's chance of success) and I think we start to realise what this man has been up against.
Getting rid of Potter will not even begin to fix the problems at Wests Tigers. Unless they are fixed first, there is no point hiring another coach, so the debate is useless.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't know how anyone is holding Brian Smith personally accountable for this whole mess.

Smith was approached and commissioned by the club to provide a report covering the football operations. He did as such and provided the report. It sounds like people within the club leaked details of the report to the media and as such it has helped drive the agenda against Potter.

I'm hardly a staunch backer of Smith, but he was asked to a job and he did it. I would hazard a guess that the report was meant to be confidential and while he might be looking to get a start somewhere still, he'd hardly do himself any favours by leaking the details himself as it would most likely get back to him.

On Smith, he'd be good for a cleanout of the playing group, but I don't see the major issues at the club being focused around the roster, moreso the key staff in the football operations (strength & conditioning in particular.)

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I don't know how anyone is holding Brian Smith personally accountable for this whole mess.

Smith was approached and commissioned by the club to provide a report covering the football operations. He did as such and provided the report. It sounds like people within the club leaked details of the report to the media and as such it has helped drive the agenda against Potter.

I'm hardly a staunch backer of Smith, but he was asked to a job and he did it. I would hazard a guess that the report was meant to be confidential and while he might be looking to get a start somewhere still, he'd hardly do himself any favours by leaking the details himself as it would most likely get back to him.

On Smith, he'd be good for a cleanout of the playing group, but I don't see the major issues at the club being focused around the roster, **moreso the key staff in the football operations (strength & conditioning in particular.)**

He'd clear the decks and bring in his own people in that department as well don't you worry.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't know how anyone is holding Brian Smith personally accountable for this whole mess.

Smith was approached and commissioned by the club to provide a report covering the football operations. He did as such and provided the report. It sounds like people within the club leaked details of the report to the media and as such it has helped drive the agenda against Potter.

I'm hardly a staunch backer of Smith, but he was asked to a job and he did it. I would hazard a guess that the report was meant to be confidential and while he might be looking to get a start somewhere still, he'd hardly do himself any favours by leaking the details himself as it would most likely get back to him.

On Smith, he'd be good for a cleanout of the playing group, but I don't see the major issues at the club being focused around the roster, **moreso the key staff in the football operations (strength & conditioning in particular.)**

He'd clear the decks and bring in his own people in that department as well don't you worry.

You're right, but my point is that you get him as a package. He'd be good to get the cleanout going in the football operations, but chances are he'd have different ideas about the roster and would most likely still put the broom through them, which isn't really what we need. We have a great nucleus & core group of players going forward, I'm not so sure I'd want him tinkering with that.

 

[Tigertigertiger]

If we get Brian Smith expect Daniel Wagon to come out of retirement

 

[tig_prmz]

We don't have that much dead wood in the playing ranks imo

I agree with Lat this is more.front office than player person ell priblem

Agreed. Not sure how good a coach smith is but i doubt he would help us restructure the front office.

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[LCA]

I think it is ridiculous even debating this. Potter has done enough to gain an extension when all outside factors are considered.
Surely anyone who is reading other current posts is becoming aware of where the problems at the club really sit, and It aint Potter. It is apparent to me that once the board s fixed (if it can be) and the business is allowed to run without constant interference, there should be a stable environment in which Potter can do his job.
Add to that, the dawning awareness that the quality of our strength and conditioning staff is probably contributing to the amount of time top players are spending on the bench, (therefore affecting the team's and Potter's chance of success) and I think we start to realise what this man has been up against.
Getting rid of Potter will not even begin to fix the problems at Wests Tigers. Unless they are fixed first, there is no point hiring another coach, so the debate is useless.

I am reading current posts and I am no more aware of where the problem is. And, as a poster on here, I don't pretend to know anything. I just have an opinion. So, you are saying that the form of the team is all to do with board dysfunction and inept strength and conditioning staff. Is that it?

 

[NT_Tiger]

LCA, I don't pretend to know more than anyone on this forum and probably know less than most. My opinion is based on reading through this forum and bits from the media.
My little rant was about more than the performance of the team on the field. It was about the problems exhibited by the entire organisation, and my opinion that getting rid of Potter will not in any way solve the problems of this organisation. If the apparent problems are not addressed, any new coach will experience the same issues as Potter has.
To answer your question directly; No I am not saying that team's form is all to do with board dysfunction. As above I am saying more than that. However, it is my opinion that board dysfunction, or the inability of the board to address disruptive behaviour, contributes to poor on-field performance, and has done so recently at a critical time. Getting rid of Potter would not have influenced that.
As well as this, the number of players injured and sitting on the sideline has definitely influenced the teams on-field performance. Is this just dumb luck? I am with others in querying whether it is down to strength and conditioning. I don't know that it is so, but would be very interested in seeing some stats on the subject. Once again getting rid of Potter would not change this and any incoming coach would have the same problem.
To sum up, Potter has done a reasonable job with the troops available. The number of outside factors affecting the teams performance are beyond his, or any coach's control. On top of that and more importantly there are bigger problems apparent with Wests Tigers than the coach.