Is Humpty out of his depth?

I'd love to see how we go as a club franchise whatever it is we are…..with a board, CEO and coach all on the same page, all with the same goals
 
@innsaneink said:
I'd love to see how we go as a club franchise whatever it is we are…..with a board, CEO and coach all on the same page, all with the same goals
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So say we all
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@mike said:
@innsaneink said:
I'd love to see how we go as a club franchise whatever it is we are…..with a board, CEO and coach all on the same page, all with the same goals

So say we all
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Would that be at the behest of Wests Ashfield, Ryde Eastwood, Wests Campbelltown, Meriton Apartments or Benny Elias Inc ….
 
I think his position would be looked at as well, the contract issues and the not good look of the place of messy dealings , if not moved on a rocket to get back to basics and create a better look of the club .
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I think it will be interesting to see what role everyone in the chain has played in all of this.
 
A mate of mine had a chat with Humpty the other day. Humpty said he doesn't like the way all this has played out in public, but the club can't gag players and it becomes difficult when journos get a sniff and start speculating left, right and centre. The club is being bombarded for information when they haven't even finalised their plans yet, and he doesn't want to give the media a running commentary about the internal functioning of the club.

Humpty also said running a footy club isn't like a regular business, there is often very little time to react to situations and pieces are moving all the time. Imagine a business where the media are in your office 5 days a week, when employees regularly get injured for long periods, when your shareholders crave constant news and spectacle.

Personally, just because this played out in the media doesn't mean Humphreys isn't good at his job. We have several high-profile media personalities and they spoke out. All this to and fro about promises and missed contracts is a combination of speculation and one-sided stories; the people who have spoken publicly are obviously going to spin it to their own tune. If players had instead handled this quietly and internally, like Farah, we wouldn't be having this media frenzy.
 
I'm not bagging you Jirskyr but every CEO is in the same boat and deals with the same issues (to a degree having 2 clubs does make the job harder ) but we are the only club noticeably in turmoil

We haven't handled this at all well and he needs to take a fair share of the responsibility for that

To me he seems like a pass the bucker , like the coach

Man up Humphrey's , tell us what is going to happen and then make it happen

100% accountability either way

That is a leader in my eyes
 
Parramatta 2010-2012 massive turmoil (actually longer) - Denis, Osbourne
Manly massive turmoil, board infighting, the Hassler affair
Broncos with Henjak, thoroughbreds leaving
Cronulla with Ricky towards the end, no ceo, that guy they fired that punched the employee
Melbourne with Waldron
Bulldogs pre Greenburg (salary cap, coffs harbour, mason, sbw)

Plenty of turmoil all around over the past 10 years

We are in turmoil because it is our turn for a revolution. Sheens has been here long enough. Humphreys seems pretty keen on his end of season review, which hopefully will have a good outcome for the club.
 
Some crises are admin based, others are coaching staff or player based, and others are a bit of both. For us it is hard to tell who has how much of a role in what, and in the end it is the ceo's job to ensure everything runs smooth (or the board if the ceo fails, or shareholders if the board fails) - which is what the review is meant to be i think. Maybe the review will be ineffective at finding and addressing problems. But really the season isn't even over yet and it is silly to think we'd get immediate solutions. Wait and see is ok for the time being.
 
@jirskyr said:
A mate of mine had a chat with Humpty the other day. Humpty said he doesn't like the way all this has played out in public, but the club can't gag players and it becomes difficult when journos get a sniff and start speculating left, right and centre. The club is being bombarded for information when they haven't even finalised their plans yet, and he doesn't want to give the media a running commentary about the internal functioning of the club.

Humpty also said running a footy club isn't like a regular business, there is often very little time to react to situations and pieces are moving all the time. Imagine a business where the media are in your office 5 days a week, when employees regularly get injured for long periods, when your shareholders crave constant news and spectacle.

Personally, just because this played out in the media doesn't mean Humphreys isn't good at his job. We have several high-profile media personalities and they spoke out. All this to and fro about promises and missed contracts is a combination of speculation and one-sided stories; the people who have spoken publicly are obviously going to spin it to their own tune. If players had instead handled this quietly and internally, like Farah, we wouldn't be having this media frenzy.
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Sounds like a normal day at the office for any decent CEO
 
@mike said:
@jirskyr said:
A mate of mine had a chat with Humpty the other day. Humpty said he doesn't like the way all this has played out in public, but the club can't gag players and it becomes difficult when journos get a sniff and start speculating left, right and centre. The club is being bombarded for information when they haven't even finalised their plans yet, and he doesn't want to give the media a running commentary about the internal functioning of the club.

Humpty also said running a footy club isn't like a regular business, there is often very little time to react to situations and pieces are moving all the time. Imagine a business where the media are in your office 5 days a week, when employees regularly get injured for long periods, when your shareholders crave constant news and spectacle.

Personally, just because this played out in the media doesn't mean Humphreys isn't good at his job. We have several high-profile media personalities and they spoke out. All this to and fro about promises and missed contracts is a combination of speculation and one-sided stories; the people who have spoken publicly are obviously going to spin it to their own tune. If players had instead handled this quietly and internally, like Farah, we wouldn't be having this media frenzy.

Sounds like a normal day at the office for any decent CEO
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Footy CEO perhaps, not a regular company CEO. I'm just repeating what the man said as reported to me.
 
@Black & Gold said:
We have the most incompetant CEO in the business.

Stephen Humphreys MUST stand down or be sacked.
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I dont think Humpherys is suited to being our CEO. I'm not saying he isnt clever, or successful. Its just a case of Horses for Courses.

Sports Administration in Australia is vastly different to being an executive officer for Qantas, or a Bank, or a Mutual Fund or whatever. Its a bit like Malcolm Turnbull or even John Hewson trying to be PM. Very smart people, very wealthy, great resumes, but not on the same wavelength in regards to the politics involved. An annual report is not going to make your bones at a Football Club the way it would at other Jobs.

I used to work with Steve Noyce when he was GM of Marketing at the Sydney Turf Club. He was a damm good one too. Ladies Day Out at Rosehill Gardens was his idea…. bit of trivia there...lol. Apart from being very switched on he was really down to earth, a great motivator. He kept things organised and simple and didn't do politics. He was just a guy. He often ate in the lunchroom with everyone else, telling great stories about Wests Magpies etc. He wasn't Mr Super Corporate First Class 5 star Starched White Shirt take it up with my personal assistant kind of guy....

He knew Footy. He knew what was involved in putting on a Weekend Sports event. He knew how to sell it to a Western Sydney punter because he was a western sydney punter. He could talk to players, coaches... he could talk to the ladies who ran the canteen. He knew about groundsmen, how to talk to the local Counsil, most importantly of all he knew what to do when a club was skint. (He learned the hard way at Magpies and Early Wests Tigers). He knew it all in a very real sort of way. He had a sense of the ratio of how many Stadium Staff, Meat Pies, Beers, Programs etc were required to make a crowd of 6000 people profitable. Sometimes it actually costs the club money to have a crowd of 20,000 people... and people like Noyce know all that stuff.

Its not as high minded as running Qantas thats for sure. From what I've seen I don't think Humpty is cut out for this kind of game.
 
He seems to be good with the business side of the club but when the pressure is on him from the media, he just seems to buckle.
 
I'm still of the belief that Humphreys should not cop the amount of blame that he has in all this. Yes he is the CEO of the club and certain things have happened that shouldn't have. But these circumstances haven't always been things he's ever been able to control. The way the media works, particularly social media, it moves so fast. Players are so accessible as well.

Truth is there's fault in all the players in this saga. CEO, coach, board, coaching staff, players, departed players. There lies blame on each one of them for this mess. Even the media hasn't helped things either. All that though is irrelevant now. What's happened has happened and i'm more interested in what Humphreys does next. This is his chance to really cement his leadership on the club.
 
@Tigerpete said:
I'm still of the belief that Humphreys should not cop the amount of blame that he has in all this. Yes he is the CEO of the club and certain things have happened that shouldn't have. But these circumstances haven't always been things he's ever been able to control. The way the media works, particularly social media, it moves so fast. Players are so accessible as well.

Truth is there's fault in all the players in this saga. CEO, coach, board, coaching staff, players, departed players. There lies blame on each one of them for this mess. Even the media hasn't helped things either. All that though is irrelevant now. What's happened has happened and i'm more interested in what Humphreys does next. This is his chance to really cement his leadership on the club.
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Not his fault although we need a better player recruiter guy.
 
CEO is copping the bollocking the board has deserved for a few years now. He is the figurehead and it is to be expected
 
A quote from G W Bush sums it up best for me when it comes to S Humphreys.
" you can fool some of the people, some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."
Until he comes clean and stops the spin, he'll be out of his depth. Sometimes it's better to remain quiet than passing spin, which he finds hard to do. Honestly what knowledge have we gained about our club since all this turmoil started. My biggest gripe is we could afford to sign Lewis, yet couple months later we have cap issues. Is he making this up when it suits him so he can use it as a means to get rid of players he doesn't want. Things just don't add up sometimes.
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It's not just the fact that the guy can't lodge a contract properly, I have a few other issues with him.

- Beau Ryan is probably THE most marketable person in the NRL at the moment. He had easily taken over Benji as the face of the club and all the kids now want to meet Beau. The sponsorship work he does for Meriton etc that we see on game day is critical. Forget the fact he had a great year on the field, from a business perspective he was a very valuable asset.
- In the week where our two feeder sides have made the final, the club chooses to focus on the negatives with the coaching situation. What better way to get fans further interested in the club than promote the fact BRET and the U20s made the GF. Dumb dumb dumb
- Similar to the above point, what a dumb week to release 2013 memberships.
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