Should Tyson be given a shot .., Benji looks to be running out of gas which is fair enough not brought for the full 80 min .if Reynolds is right in a couple of weeks he will not be up to speed for a least a month so should Tyson be put on the bench this week and interchange with Benji .
Is it time to Gamble on Gamble
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innsaneink
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So an 80 minute hooker?
I guess ET could slot in there with a headgear on.
We can't have a hooker and a half on the bench in NZ
I guess ET could slot in there with a headgear on.
We can't have a hooker and a half on the bench in NZ
The_Patriot
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I'm not sure if Gamble should be picked.
I am sure however that Benji needs to sit on some pine.
Enough is enough. We need accountability.
I am sure however that Benji needs to sit on some pine.
Enough is enough. We need accountability.
king_sirro
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How did Gamble go in ISP this week?
While I've been one of Benji's critics this year, I think he stays until Reynolds returns. He has the ability we need, it's up to Ivan to sort out some of his poor decisions.
While I've been one of Benji's critics this year, I think he stays until Reynolds returns. He has the ability we need, it's up to Ivan to sort out some of his poor decisions.
tsjonathan
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he was horrible .
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They missed Quadja big time…no one was good yesterday ...Gamble was good when he could pick his moments as Drinkwater was pretty much running the team....without him they were directionless....
Whether Gamble could just pick his moments in FG ..I don't know as Brooks and Marshall are sharing that responsibility now...
TSupps05
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Benji had one bog average game in 8 games. Give him a break he is the reason we are doing so well, and the culture we have at the moment.
jirskyr
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I really question whether a combo of Brooks-Gamble is a better clutch-moment option than Brooks-Benji?
I assume that's the swap proposed, not Gamble-Benji?
I'm all for giving the kid a run off the bench, he's a big lad and has plenty of utility value. If it was in place of a Godinet for example, then fine. But can he cover hooker at all? Because that's the primary issue for me, if you chuck in Gamble to the halves, you are saying he is going to covert more than 50% of close games into wins (which is where we are currently at).
I assume that's the swap proposed, not Gamble-Benji?
I'm all for giving the kid a run off the bench, he's a big lad and has plenty of utility value. If it was in place of a Godinet for example, then fine. But can he cover hooker at all? Because that's the primary issue for me, if you chuck in Gamble to the halves, you are saying he is going to covert more than 50% of close games into wins (which is where we are currently at).
balmain boy
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Given the amount of changes over the past couple of weeks, and the lineup that was out yesterday it's to be expected that they struggled against a strong team. A heap of changes and losing Quadja at this stage of the season will be an immense challenge for this team
I think a Gamble- Brooks combo would work really well. It would allow Brooks to run the show (like he should) without Benji overplaying him all the time and stunting our momentum. Having Gamble out in the odd kick, run or pass would [perfectly complement what we want Brooks to be doing.
After a good opening month Benji has gone rapidly downhill. He would have touched the ball twice as much as Brooks yesterday, much to the detriment of the side. His kicks have been rubbish, defence soft, and he's just crabbing across the field sideways again.
I don't expect Benji to be dropped until reynolds is fit, but Benji's performances have coincided with our losses. Not saying he's the sole reason by any means, but his options have put the team on the backfoot. The odd piece of brilliance doesn't change that. Far more rocks than diamonds recently.
teddy23
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No
The_Patriot
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Accurate post!
innsaneink
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It appears hes only played in the halves, I saw Freddy someone here,who seems to know the lad post he hasnt played fullback…
The_Patriot
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I think the idea most are putting forward is that Benji goes to the bench BUT comes on like he did at the Broncos to play the "clutch" moment or back end of the game.
If he were fresh he might not act like an idiot and kick on third etc.
Only real question is is who starts the game at 5/8
WestsBenTigers
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I have been saying it for 3 weeks now, the bad Benji is back for most of the game now, the honeymoon is over, he is crueling Brooks and our attack, and his kicking on early tackles and over the dead ball line, well :brick:
jirskyr
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Hold on, hold on. Someone run the logic for me.
Benji is making some dumb plays because he isn't fresh enough / too tired? Is there some stat I'm missing, are the Benji errors only coming late in the games, as he supposedly gets gassed?
How do we know for a fact that any of Benji's late-game errors aren't actually from nerves or lack of concentration in difficult situations? Perhaps having Benji on the field towards the end of the match is the sole issue, rather than him being good early and poor late due to tiredness.
And then I'm curious how Benji was clutch in the first few games but now he isn't? Is he getting more and more tired as the matches go on, 1 week's rest isn't enough between games?
And then I wonder, does Tyson Gamble definitely make that last tackle on Ma'u? Does Gamble also magically undo the Godinet penalty to SKD, the Buhrer kick to SKD, the Matulino high shot, the bad penalty against Brooks, make the forward passes called forward? Does Gamble also adequately support Fonua to score our last try yesterday?
IMO if the guy can't manage the game, he can't manage it. He's a half not a forward, stamina should not be an issue, and I just don't see it being stamina. Also when you pull a guy from the bench late, he's had no warm up, you are risking he hasn't got a feel for the game having only watched it for 50-60 mins.
Suppose you do open with Gamble and then bring Benji on, what do you then do w Gamble? Someone has to play some hooker in this scenario, you can't have Godinet/MM and Benji both on the bench.
If we are going to play Gamble properly, if that is the deal, then drop Benji to ISP. The only reason the Brooks-Grubby-Benji thing worked is because Reynolds was training to play hooker at times.
What if it was the Coaches instructions to kick early as we had been under the pump…stuck in our end for a bit... :astonished:
Ronnie was throwing the spirit fingers around like a madman at the time....
Ronnie was throwing the spirit fingers around like a madman at the time....
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